These deaths are all blamed on the U.S. because if the U.S. had not invaded and destroyed other peoples' countries, these suicide bombings would not be happening.

Think for a moment if you can. Suicide bombings carried out by Palestinians. Why? INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF THEIR LAND.

Okay lets fast forward to Iraq and Afghanistan and suicide bombings there. Why? INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF THEIR LAND.

It is quite clear for those with at least a 50% functioning brain that the commonality is INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF OTHER PEOPLE'S LANDS.

Add another commonality-they don't have sophisticated weaponry. They just have their bodies. (Israel gets 30 billion dollars worth of weapons for FREE from us, while we SELL to other countries-hardly seems a level or fair playground).

And let's not forget that these people who are invaded by us are pretty poor and desperate just to get the basics-food, clothing, shelter. Which we have taken away from them by destroying their infrastructure. When we kill off their families and take away their homes, hello they want us out! If China invaded the U.S., destroyed our infrastructure, kicked in doors of homes, killed and raped, I doubt any American citizen would not fight back.

These suicide bombers would probably also fly safely in an airplaine overhead and drop 500 ton bombs too if they could like us, but again they are poor, invaded, and just don't have the means.

No they just have their bodies to fight for their independence from colonialism starting all over again.

OMIGOD!!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT??? BUSH TRIED TO DO IT AGAIN!!! MANIPULATE THE WORLD INTO THINKING IRAN HAD WMD FOR AN EXCUSE TO ATTACK AND KILL MORE!!! AND HE'S STILL NOT BACKING DOWN EVEN AFTER EVIDENCE FROM THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY!

AND THE REALLY SAD PART IS THE UNEDUCATED HILLBILLIES OF AMERICA (THE RED STATES) BUY THIS CRAP.

EVEN THOUGH IT'S OBVIOUS BUSH IS JUST TRYING TO APPEASE ISRAEL.

THIS IS BECAUSE ABOUT 50% OF AMERICANS (THE RED STATE HILLBILLILES) ARE ACTUALLLY PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE OF FEELING FOR OTHER PEOPLE. YES. THERE WAS A STUDY DONE WHERE A BLUE STATE PERSON HAD AN EMPATHETIC RESPONSE IN THE BRAIN TO VIOLENT IMAGES OF WAR, WHILE THE RED STATE HILLBILLY HAD ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSE.

RED STATE HILLBILLIES ARE THE DEVIL'S SPAWN FROM HELL.

So the suicide bombers in England, Spain, Malaysia, India, Pakistan, etc. were all because those were invaded lands? You also never answered the main question of why it is OK for them to kill innocents. It appears that the comment in the blog was also referring to historical bombings IRA, USS COLE, Original WTC bombing, Bombings in Egypt.
Once again were those bombings because those lands were invaded. Suicide bombing has been going on much longer than the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. So I ask again why is it OK for these terrorists to kill innocents? Please try to answer without the usual American Imperialism blather that accompanies most of the posts that are made here. I would like a nice logical answer. Thank you.

Those bombings are in response to the invasion of muslim countries.

The only countries in which it is completely justified to carry out these attacks are the invaded and occupied lands-Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan pretty much because their troops are killing Afghanis on orders from Mr. Bush.

And it is justified because they don't have 500 ton bombs and planes and tanks to defend their homes and lands with.

The other countries are done by nut jobs, or more likely, Bush orchestrated those attacks himself.

I do not expect you to understand because like "holy crap" said, you are probably INCAPABLE of feeling for these poor people and are quite content in regurgitating Fox News.

Duh you totally makes sense.

On that premise, Osama dropped the trade centers in the U.S. because the U.S. has basically invaded Saudi Arabia by setting up bases there, which pissed Osama off.

There are over 100 countries where the U.S. has bases. I would say this is a legitimate invasion.

Can you imagine Japanese or Chinese bases in America? I would think of that as an invasion.

John, you don't strike me as an intelligent individual. I would ballpark your IQ at around average. Maybe 98? You are definitely a follower.

John, those bombings probably happened because of the invasion and occupation of Palestine. The U.S. does GIVE Israel billions in aid and billions in top notch technology and weapons, which understandably creates an image of the U.S. that we are one-sided and unfair.

Recall the poll taken in Europe on which country is the biggest threat to peace, and the #1 country chosen was Israel.

And you have to keep in mind these bombings were carried out by a small group of people not affiliated with any country.

A few thousand people affiliated with a borderless group compared to over a billion muslims seems hardly a fair representation of the people.

I have to agree with Duh that there really is no blame on the people fighting for their homes in invaded and occupied Iraq and Afghanistan. People have an inherent right to defend their property and their country from foreigners (us).

If we were invaded and my city destroyed and my family killed, I would go crazy fighting.

This is hard for the average american to understand because the average american takes for granted their good comfortable life, and has no perspective on other people and really has no respect for other people.

This is why no country likes or respects us. You can say UK, but it is only their government. Most British common people hate us, as is the case all over the world. With the exception of Israel.

This is because nobody respects ignorance, arrogance, and injustice.

Place Cheney on the U.S. Mexican border.
His gargantuan fat ass should cover about 200 miles of border.

From John "Please try to answer without the usual American Imperialism blather that accompanies most of the posts that are made here. I would like a nice logical answer. "

I'd say invading and occupying a country and taking their resources meets all the criteria of what constitutes imperialism.

Even if a handful of people who are engrossed in their own twisted ideology carried out those attacks in England, Spain, Malaysia, India, it gives no right to go kill off all the muslims in the world.

With this logic the Protestant KKK carry out attacks against blacks. Let's kill and demonize ALL white Protestants.

Border Security, I think Cheney's fat ass would cover 200 SQUARE miles. LOL!

Humorous to say the least. Since most persons historical perceptions of Palestine are skewed I will not open that debate. What most of you seem to forget is that the people committing these bombings are not native to the lands that they are in. It is not Afghanis killing Afghanis to get rid of the Americans (though how that makes sense I will never understand). It is foreign terrorist killing Afghanis as they try to kill US, NATO, and UN forces. The difference is that they have absolutely no regrets of blowing up children, women, or innocent bystanders.
Your answers confirmed what I had originally suspected, and that was that in your support for the terrorists you are willing to grant them absolution for any crime that they commit. On the other hand, in your hatred for America and her fighting men and women, you are ready and willing to believe any lie and spin facts out of pure conjecture.

@Logical: I don't recall anyone saying that we should kill all Muslims in the world. That would be like saying kill all the Jews in the world. But from what I have read that would not bother very many of you.

John you are dodging an obvious conceptual point. When the Jews were being killed by the Nazis "foreigners" including us went over there to stop Hitler.

Same situation here. "Foreigners" are helping the natives from the invaders (us). Obviously these foreigners feel a strong sense or morality in helping their fellow Afghani, Iraqi who are invade, occupied and persecuted by us.

John, you obviously support state sponsored terrorism. You are going to be reason why America will decline. That is why we need people who can at least read and speak properly (unlike Bush) to run this country and get it out of the trash hole Bush has taken us into.

You are an accomplice in taking is into declination and basically into the crapper.

Do yourself and us a favor and go pray to God to make you feel something besides hate for other people.

Uh John, last I heard U.S. troops blew away a bunch of women going to work in Iraq. And uh, don't forget that 14-year old Iraqi baby who was raped by five of your crazy buddies and her whole family killed.

AND don't forget the 500,000 children killed off by the U.S. sanctions (source-UNICEF).

And I'm QUITE positive that the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who have perished because of our invasion, in the last four years (God rest their souls), including women AND children.

Your double talk will not work here, honey.

It'll probably work with your hillbilly friends, but not in a circle of educated people.

John, you need to understand the difference between the reference to the state of Israel which is founded on Zionism (a political school of thought) versus reference to Jews and Judaism.

Judaism is a wonderful religion and Jews are wonderful people, especially those who correctly follow their religion.

The political mind frame of Zionism, however, is what people contest including the goal of unjustly taking Palestinian land and coercively influencing American foreign policy through their EXTREMELY powerful lobby group, AIPAC. Not a Congressman DARES to not attend AIPAC's annual gala event, or DARES to vote against AIPAC policy. Read some material on the Israeli lobby.

This is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from the RELIGION of Judaism. The prophets of Judaism are RESPECTED AND REVERED by CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM alike-from Prophet Abraham to Prophet Moses.

Judaism stops with Moses and they do not recognize Jesus. Christianity stops with Jesus and they do not recognize Muhammad, but recognize Moses. And Islam stops with Muhammad and Islam recognizes from Adam through Moses to Jesus as Prophets. These are the big differences. Throw in politics contrary to religious teachings and you've got a pot of goo, though.

Read. Think. Understand.

Also note when Israel invade Lebanon a year and a half ago, the leader of Hezbollah NEVER referred to Judaism or Jews. He always said "Zionists". This is because in Islam Jews are a legit religion and is very much respected.

The political movement of Zionism is not, however, because it has caused extremely unjust treatment to a group of peoples.

hello :o)

With the exception of John..

The rest of you are morons.

Everyday my faith in humanity goes down...

No I'll tell you why foreigners (not us) are going to Afghanistan and Iraq to fight. In Islam, all muslims constitute one community. These borders and different countries in an islamic government should not theoretically exist. It should be one muslim nation. Back in the day, that is how it was and peoples of the other religions (Christianity, Judaism, Zoastrians, etc) all lived peacably within the muslim ruler's lands, because they had complete autonomy under islamic law. Meaning other religions governed themselves WITH THEIR OWN LAWS within the muslim territory and muslims had no right to govern them or assert their laws over them. Muslims only protected them with their military, which non muslims were not required to join. However, if non muslims did not join, able bodied males had to pay a special tax (to fund the muslim army that protected them). If these able bodied non muslim males were too poor, they were exempt, but were still protected.

These days, in which the islamic govt have declined in the last 100-200 years, NONE of the muslim governments follow islamic law.

For example, in Saudi women cannot drive or some cannot hold certain types of jobs. This is totally not in accordance with islamic law. Under islamic law, they can drive, work, vote, participate in government, have property rights, divorce rights, etc.

Again, the case these days is no country fully follows islamic law.

Under Islamic law, if a muslim land was invaded like Iraq or Afghanistan was, ALL muslims would unite against the attacker. Obviously this did not happen. So you have a few people who know that all muslims should have united, however, are suffering from "frustration aggression" (a political term-look it up), and go to defend the areas that were attacked. THAT is the reason why you have attacks by "foreigners" in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It is rooted DEEP in history, culture, and religion.

ALL CONCEPTS AMERICANS FAILED TO EXPLORE AND UNDERSTAND.

Instead of trying to build relationships with these muslim nations so that resources could be legitamately shared, we committed a terrible sin. We attacked, killed, and stole.

Karma is a bitch, and it will come back to us, and that makes me quite sad.

Cheer up Marinevet. Your faith doesn't need to go down. what you need to do is improve yourself-your values, how you treat people, how you treat yourself, etc. You and your actions are the BEST outlay of your values and beliefs. If you treat people badly, hurt them, disrespect them (bec of race, religion, political viewpoints, etc), you will "outlay" yourself as a racist and this will tell people you hold intolerant hateful beliefs. If you treat people kindly, with respect and understand, people will see you as a fair and just person. If you treat yourself well, educate yourself about issues and peoples, your only doing yourself a favor. You see what I'm saying?

All of these things together will influence others-in how they view you, how they view people like you, and will influence what they will tell other people about you.

And of course will influence how other people will treat you :o).

THIS is how you can change the world for the better.

Hey Marinevet, i'm curious as to why you think everyone is a moron? There are a lot of interesting points made and facts conveyed here. Is it because you cannot face the facts, or is it because you are in dispute with the facts? Or is it simply because you cannot understand the breadth and depth of the issues? Based on your two line comment, I'm inclined to assume the latter.

It would have cost LESS to have legitimate trade dealings with Iraq and other middle eastern countries, in terms of Iraqi bodies, U.S. bodies, MONEY, and decline of credibility in the eyes of the world.

This administration and its ideology is a curse to America.

We could have been sooo great.....

And I seriously wonder what happened to that 8 BILLION dollars in cash that was "lost" in Iraq. Whose pocket did it go in? Well Cheney has quite a long history of fraud (this is public news by the way), that my money is on him.

Great discussion going on here. I really did not expect this level of intelligence on this type of website.

I agree with Nancy about this administration, especially since Mr. Bush called the Constitution "a goddamn piece of paper."

It is obvious he doesn't care about our most sacred document, as he's been violating it every chance he gets!

Someone throw him into one of the secret illegal prisons he's built and put his own electrodes that he uses to torture people on his balls! But that should not be done because that is against the Constitution, which I would uphold.

He should be impeached though.