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soulchild
01-21-2005, 08:57 PM
Now I understand that when you enroll in certain areas of the Army there are drug tests.... But after the inital test do they keep testing? I've stopped smoking since I started inquiring about enlisting but I'm just curious

Firefox
01-24-2005, 07:58 AM
Now I understand that when you enroll in certain areas of the Army there are drug tests.... But after the inital test do they keep testing? I've stopped smoking since I started inquiring about enlisting but I'm just curious

ok yes they do.. why not just stop? its not hard and its so not cool. do somthing positive with your life one it cost alot second why? i think its just dumb. anyways.. yes they do do tests and some times they dont tell you when. once you join im sure ull stop because ull see you dont need it then.. you will have things to do hehe.. good luck and stay drug free. only fools intoxicate there minds.. :cool:

Master CPL Forsyth

soulchild
01-24-2005, 01:16 PM
It helps me relieve stress.... I'm in college and doing very well. The price really is that serious since enough for a few days is 20$. Some people drink, others smoke cigs, I smoke weed. Concidering my G.P.A is a 3.5 and i'm on the deans list @ college I don't see that it's hurting me all that much. The stress I put on myself to do well in college and other stresses in my life puts a strain on my mind and marijuanna calms me down and i get to work on what i need to do. I'm just wondering about the millitary's testing policys really tho......but don't worry I dont smoke anymore, Warrant Officer here I come!

Grimes
01-29-2005, 08:20 AM
Hell, in the Veitnam War once you were off the line you could get as high as a airplane. But after that war the Army changed a whole lot of stuff. I find smoking is stupid. Half of my family on my moms side smokes. none of them smoke pot or anything like that. All pot does is make you feel good for a short time when you come back to reality you still have those problems. I don't smoke and i don't drink. and i am proud of it.

XxdeformedxperfectionxX
02-15-2005, 08:10 AM
I understand where you're coming from when it comes to saying smoking pot relieves stress... I smoked for 4 years, the good thing about weed is it's not hard to stop, unlike a lot of the other drugs I was into. This isnt true for everyone... but with me smoking pot lead to trying other drugs to see if there was something better out there, no matter how dangerous or addicting it was... I just wanted to altar the way I was seeing everything that way things wouldnt stress me out because I wasnt seeing what was really going on anymore. I probably would have kept doing drugs for a long while but one of my best friends died from doing the same drugs I was, so... I stopped, it's been 3 months now since I've done any drugs at all. I still want them... A lot. But I know it's for the best. Part of my reason for wanting to be in the Military is the fact that they give random drugs testing and such. If I know I could get caught if I do start really wanting to do meth again or anything like that the thought of knowing I could be tested and ****ed over for it may help prevent me from doing so.

ashleynicole
03-12-2005, 09:46 AM
Hey my name is Ashley and I am only 15 at the moment and reading about this drug stuff really gets me thinking. I am extremely glad that I proudly do NOT do ANY drugs at all! I don't drink either, now being the typical teenager, I have tried it but only because this guy I was going out with like forced me to, BUT! I so got rid of him! I want to be in the Military one day, I'm in 9th grade and I'm in our NJROTC at school. Which branch of the military is better?

Grimes
03-12-2005, 11:33 AM
Good for u not taking any drugs. As for which branch you want to be is up to you. My ROTC puts it like this Join the Air Force or Navy if you want to use your brains. Join the Army or Marines if you want ot use your muscles.

gill
03-14-2005, 11:21 AM
thats the truth man uhm on ur smokin thing i was in the army a yeat ago and i had some boys that smoked all the time there are ways of gettin around urine test but yes they are generally on the first of each month and after ne major holidays/offdays so watch out for a supprise piss test!!!! lol

Arhmaad
03-21-2005, 05:38 PM
just to clarify, Army-navy-airforce-marines cannot be divided up by intelligence. You dont need muscles to make a good soldier in the Army, thats why we have guns. Not any buff soldier can walk in and give a good op order anyway, all branches require intelligence.Decide which branch based on what you want to do :P

as to good ol mary j.

QUIT
The army has no tolerance with drugs, you get caught once, your gone, that simple. That alone should make it not worth the price of ruining your future.

However, even if losing your job doesnt stop you, keep in mind what your doing to your body. First of all, weed aint a stress reliever. It might temporarily help you out, but the problems will only get worse as they go unsolved.
do something to get your mind off school; run, workout, chill with friends, watch movies, get a girlfriend :eek:
If im not mistaken, smoking pot is about 8 times worse in terms of tar as a cigarette.. now i know your not chain smokin pot 3 packs a day, but inhaling anything, is certainly not healthy, especially with the required pt in the military.

sides from which, you get the 9 weeks at basic, other camps, and then to active duty, your simply not gonna have time for it, and your probably not going to want it or need it.. might as well quit, since its not really addictive.

regan4000
03-21-2005, 11:28 PM
Will you all please stop preaching about how bad weed is for you when you are typing on an army forum, which revolves around only one thing... violence. It's just like ignorant people (Southern Americans) to not to drugs, but have no problem shooting someone.

I smoke da kron everyday so **** you people who say its bad. Obviously its a drug and obviously its bad for you, but so is having a loaded gun in your pocket/hand. Im not some extreme leftist either, I agree with war when it is warranted, and I don't neccessarily have a problem with the Iraq war either.

And to the 15 year old... I though the same thing when I was your age.. but life isn't always following your parents curfew and writing your text in pink. I'm not saying smoke, drink and do drugs, but just don't be so closed minded... I'm going to take a wild guess and say you are religious, most likey Christian and you are being a good person by following the bible and your parents wishes... Sweet! now shut up, and get off an army forum, you're 15 for god's sake.

Arhmaad
03-22-2005, 11:43 AM
read his post regan, hes going to the military. You try to be a badass and try to push the limits, youll find yourself looking for a new job. The military isnt some Iraqi crackhouse signup.

sides from which, you can be open minded and still not be stupid enough to smoke. You can choose to not smoke and not be a catholic perfect child.

I dont understand what your trying to say with your 'who cares if its bad, so is war' statement. War kills, and so does smoking. If you dont die in the war, youll die of smoking. Just because war is a risk, doesnt mean you can ruin your life "since youll prolly die anyway."

regan4000
03-23-2005, 08:35 AM
please, please, please shut up

Arhmaad
03-25-2005, 09:17 PM
please, please, please shut up

take your flame into a 13 yearold chatroom.

If you like to be a super weedsmoker. Have at it hoss. you have taken a legitimate discussion and turned it into a childish "i do what i want" statement. grow up.

ozzi-solja
04-08-2005, 11:45 PM
jesus reegan, sounds like someone hit a nerve.

you got a problem with teens on this forum, get a ****ing life man, im 17 and lookin at a career in the forces.

i dont agree with smokin weed and **** like that... it aint cool but people do it, people that dont belong in the military.

i've tried it, hell yeah ive tried it, but only the people with any brains left walk away from it.

reegan, its time for you to stop preachin about ****, the whole ****in worlds against on the drugs thing man, it ruins lives, families and the economy.

get the **** over yourself, ****in child

Zendris
04-17-2005, 11:31 PM
Marijuana is not as bad for you as cigarettes. It is not addictive and it is also non-habit forming. It also does not have all of the additives that cigarettes do.

Marijuana is not as bad for you as alcohol. Marijuana is not addictive and it is also non-habit forming. Marijuana does not kill as many brain cells as alcohol, nor does it harm your liver. If alcohol was discovered in modern times, and not part of our early culture, the United States would ban it as well. When was the last time you read about a marijuana-caused car accident... when was it the last time you heard about an alcohol related car accident?

However, I DO agree with the military's stance on marijuana. It should be illegal in a job that requires both a sharp mind, and a conscience that is completely devoted to the United States and its laws.

Just out of curiosity, when and how often are drug tests administered to college kids enrolled in the ROTC program?

ozzi-solja
04-18-2005, 08:15 PM
my god, as if you havent heard of marijuana induced car accidents!

over here in Australia we get them all the friggin time, especially in areas outside of cities. Its a bold claim to say that marijuana isnt as bad for you as alcohol, since alcohol is legal and everything. Australiain CSIRO has commenced studies that have proven one 'medical standard' joint (about 120mg of THC) has the same effect on the concentration and fine motor skills as being at 1.5 on the breatho.

As for military laws on drugs, i stand by them. In the Australian Defence Forces tests are administered every month, or when there is word on use occuring on base. But undergraduate students still studying, and getting paid by the military, get off scot-free.

Lord Barker
04-20-2005, 03:19 PM
well i would suggest, if you need weed to relief stress, don't join the armed forces.
When you have been sat in a pit for 3 days, in the freezing cold with spider webs forming on you, and not even a sleeping bag to keep out the cold. You won't be able to light up then.
the dependance on something in the army is weakness. You senior should not have to worry about Private whats-his-name in his basha who is getting really stressed, wants weed, sir. if you don't have the will power to give up smoking weed, don'y join the army, it will be a waste of your time.

ozzi-solja
04-21-2005, 02:00 AM
i hear that Barker, but i thought the person starting this WAS giving up the hooch

Lord Barker
04-21-2005, 01:58 PM
Well my post was not really directed at the thread starter, more of a general word on any kind of addiction in the military, especialy the army. However the threat started did hint he was going to have a few once joined.
i guess one could 'get away with' a few spliffs while not on exercise and not stand a risk of getting in too much trouble. But if you are commited to the army, which one joining the army should be, you will have a different attitude, you will constantly be trying to better yourself. If you try to cheat the system, or get ****y, the NCOs will notice this and not promote you, it is very hard staying in the army as a squaddie.
Having a university education will stand you in good stead for a highly tought of unit such as engineers or signals, as an officer of high NCO, but arogance gets you no where in the army.

fade2black_81
04-27-2005, 03:01 AM
Your gonna want to quit now and start getting back in shape if you plan on joining. If your so smart go to college and go the officer route. When you retire move to the carribean and smoke your brains out. Best of Luck.

headpopper
04-27-2005, 10:15 AM
i used to smoke when i was in school and i played soccer and football...but where i live you are basicly a loser if you dont do weed...but peer pressure isnt what got me started...i did it because i would have real bad head aches after games from getting head with stuff in the head soo much...i have smoked in about 5months now and dont plan on it any time soon because im going in the army...but it never affected my lungs i was never tired in the games and i played positions where i had to run a lot....im kinda glad i did that the time becuase it my exploring days out of the way...(that was the only drug i have ever done) good luck dude

Zendris
04-27-2005, 06:34 PM
Well damn, I couldn't really find anything to argue with! You guys are right! Hey dude, who started the thread, stay away from that stuff, it cant help you, and it could hurt you, and it doesn't feel that great anyway.

HKspectre-A2
04-28-2005, 12:37 AM
Just a quick reminder to all of those who are posting here. In my case I have a really ****ty situation that played out bad for me. I was at a party and decided hey, what the hell why dont I join the pot heads tonight. Boy was I ****ing retarted that night... and I mean before I smoked out. My plans were to join the United States Marine Corps hopefuly join Force Recon, and then very hopefully get on with the NAVY SEALS. Now I know that I cant fulfill my dream! If your take any illeagal drug, and I mean ANY illeagal drug, you cannot join any top noch Specail forces groups. SO PLEASE, IF ANY OF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT GOING SPECAIL FORCES>>> DO NOT SMOKE WEED OR TAKE ANY DRUGS!!!!...learn from my mistake.

darkwinter
05-09-2005, 10:23 PM
UA's, or drug tests, are a constant in the military. They are susposedly random. You will most likely get a heads up when one is gonna happen.

The easiest thing to do is not to do anything like that. I could result in your seperation from the military.

I, personally, have wanted to experiment with pot, but can't because I joined when I was 17. Oh well, I still have alcohol.

quantumworld
05-10-2005, 06:05 PM
Point 3. The most obvious concern when dealing with drug safety is the possibility of lethal effects. Can the drug cause death?

4. Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality.

5. This is a remarkable statement. First, the record on marijuana encompasses 5,000 years of human experience. Second, marijuana is now used daily by enormous numbers of people throughout the world. Estimates suggest that from twenty million to fifty million Americans routinely, albeit illegally, smoke marijuana without the benefit of direct medical supervision. Yet, despite this long history of use and the extraordinarily high numbers of social smokers, there are simply no credible medical reports to suggest that consuming marijuana has caused a single death.

6. By contrast aspirin, a commonly used, over-the-counter medicine, causes hundreds of deaths each year.

7. Drugs used in medicine are routinely given what is called an LD-50. The LD-50 rating indicates at what dosage fifty percent of test animals receiving a drug will die as a result of drug induced toxicity. A number of researchers have attempted to determine marijuana's LD-50 rating in test animals, without success. Simply stated, researchers have been unable to give animals enough marijuana to induce death.

8. At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD-50 is around

1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in onemarijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.

9. In practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity.

10. Another common medical way to determine drug safety is called the therapeutic ratio. This ratio defines the difference between a therapeutically effective dose and a dose which is capable of inducing adverse effects.

11. A commonly used over-the-counter product like aspirin has a therapeutic ratio of around 1:20. Two aspirins are the recommended dose for adult patients. Twenty times this dose, forty aspirins, may cause a lethal reaction in some patients, and will almost certainly cause gross injury to the digestive system, including extensive internal bleeding.

12. The therapeutic ratio for prescribed drugs is commonly around 1:10 or lower. Valium, a commonly used prescriptive drug, may cause very serious biological damage if patients use ten times the recommended (therapeutic) dose.

13. There are, of course, prescriptive drugs which have much lower therapeutic ratios. Many of the drugs used to treat patients with cancer, glaucoma and multiple sclerosis are highly toxic. The therapeutic ratio of some of the drugs used in antineoplastic therapies, for example, are regarded as extremely toxic poisons with therapeutic ratios that may fall below 1:1.5. These drugs also have very low LD-50 ratios and can result in toxic, even lethal reactions, while being properly employed.



14. By contrast, marijuana's therapeutic ratio, like its LD-50, is impossible to quantify because it is so high.

15. In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death.

16. Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within a supervised routine of medical care."

darkwinter
05-11-2005, 06:47 PM
Will you all please stop preaching about how bad weed is for you when you are typing on an army forum, which revolves around only one thing... violence. It's just like ignorant people (Southern Americans) to not to drugs, but have no problem shooting someone.

I smoke da kron everyday so **** you people who say its bad. Obviously its a drug and obviously its bad for you, but so is having a loaded gun in your pocket/hand. Im not some extreme leftist either, I agree with war when it is warranted, and I don't neccessarily have a problem with the Iraq war either.

And to the 15 year old... I though the same thing when I was your age.. but life isn't always following your parents curfew and writing your text in pink. I'm not saying smoke, drink and do drugs, but just don't be so closed minded... I'm going to take a wild guess and say you are religious, most likey Christian and you are being a good person by following the bible and your parents wishes... Sweet! now shut up, and get off an army forum, you're 15 for god's sake.

Just because she is 15 she can't be here... Then you should also inform "rangerzrock" to leave since he is 13.

joshua.d.madsen
05-20-2005, 10:21 AM
Im replying to whoever it was that asked which branch should I join. Ive been in the Air Force for awhile, and can only say that every branch has intelligence and every branch you have to use your muscles. Look at the jobs that all the branches have to offer and pick which one you like. Unlike most people, I am not one to bash on other branches, being that Im an NCO. But I will say that im a combat controller. and if you think i dont have to use my muscles your sadly mistakin. The Air Force has treating very well over the past 6 years. I will also tell you that the Air Force is also the hardest branch to get into. If you want to know some about the Air Force just ask.

soulchild
05-31-2005, 09:49 AM
Just a quick reminder to all of those who are posting here. In my case I have a really ****ty situation that played out bad for me. I was at a party and decided hey, what the hell why dont I join the pot heads tonight. Boy was I ****ing retarted that night... and I mean before I smoked out. My plans were to join the United States Marine Corps hopefuly join Force Recon, and then very hopefully get on with the NAVY SEALS. Now I know that I cant fulfill my dream! If your take any illeagal drug, and I mean ANY illeagal drug, you cannot join any top noch Specail forces groups. SO PLEASE, IF ANY OF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT GOING SPECAIL FORCES>>> DO NOT SMOKE WEED OR TAKE ANY DRUGS!!!!...learn from my mistake.

I'm BACK!!

but did u actully admit to smoking weed or doing anyother drugs to the people? or did ur test come back positive? If you admited to doing it that was plain stupid (no e-beef). But yea I don't somke any more, well i did once but i was 2 drunk 2 know whta i was doing. Anyway I just saw it as the Army is gunna pay for my education and all i have to do is not smoke easy choice.

soulchild
05-31-2005, 09:52 AM
. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.


:eek: :eek: U WOULD BE SO HIGH AFTER DOING THAT U COULD PROBABLY FLY LIKE IN HALF BAKED. But that come down would be a ma****er.

quitstalkingme1234
03-30-2006, 10:43 AM
Good for u not taking any drugs. As for which branch you want to be is up to you. My ROTC puts it like this Join the Air Force or Navy if you want to use your brains. Join the Army or Marines if you want ot use your muscles.

PEOPLE TAKE DRUGS TO HELP THEM!NOT JUST TO GET HIGH!I THINK MARIJUANA SHOULD BE LEGAL FOR HE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO TAKE IT TO MAKE THEM BETTER!
BYE.......AMY

garrett518
04-15-2006, 04:32 PM
ok i have heard all this talk about pot but nobody is seeing the big picture. i admit, i love to smoke weed. i have since middle school and now at 20 i am shipping of into the army may 24 and couldnt be more excited. although i love weed and back up what quantumworld said about the effects of weed 100% it is sadly still illegal. that dosent stop me and im sure anyone else doing it for that matter but there is one thinh to think about. i love weed yes, but i am thinking about my future. right now, that is the army. if the military says no drugs then guess what iam am going to do? NO DRUGS. its very stait forward for all you smokers out there like myself, its a very simple choice, you cant smoke in the military so get over it. all these people that are arguing against this obviously have such an addiction to it that it is messing up their thought process. if i get out of the army im sure i will smoke again but while im in its a very easy decision for me. seriously, is it worth it to lose your job and get dishonorably discharged for getting high? point being, if you are going into the military like i am thats awesome, but dont be childish and refuse to put down the bud because it SHOULD be illegal or some other idiotic reason for wanting to smoke in the military. you will only **** yourself over.

armybarrelracer
04-15-2006, 10:44 PM
Dude, I'm 14 and I got the brains not to smoke or drink... and because of that I might still have enough brains left to join the army in the future (That is if I learn to stop hitting my head on everything:p ). If you're quitting then good for you! I'm proud of you! But seriously.... Why in the heck did you start in the first place? It's bad for you and what good comes out of it? NOTHING!

Common Sence
04-16-2006, 08:59 AM
I'll bet more soldiers die from being shot, than pot heads do from smoking pot.

Being a soldier is dangerous. Smoking pot is about is dangerous as walking through a smoggy, traffic conjested city.

I know smart people and dumb people who smoke pot. As well as smart people and dumb people who don't.

Like any group of people, there are people who are "good", and people who are "bad", people who are happy and who are sad and who are smart and who are not....etc.

Stereotyping is such a sad little piss off.

Common Sence
04-16-2006, 09:18 AM
and to think the Americans got all pissy with us when we talked about decriminalizing weed.

I could put this under Damaging our freedom too, but I won't bother.
hippocrits


By Anne Sutton
ASSOCIATED PRESS
12:15 a.m. April 12, 2006

JUNEAU, Alaska – Alaska's law on marijuana possession is considered the most liberal in the country – but its governor wants to change that, saying pot has evolved into “a dangerous drug.”
Republican Gov. Frank Murkowski argues that recreational use of pot should no longer be protected by Alaskans' right to privacy. He's pressing the Legislature to restore criminal penalties for marijuana possession. Residents are now allowed to keep up to 4 ounces in their homes.
The intent is to trigger a constitutional challenge and ultimately overturn the landmark Alaska Supreme Court decision that legalized the use of small amounts of marijuana. The American Civil Liberties Union of Alaska is poised to mount such a challenge should the law be enacted.
The state's highest court concluded in 1975 that Alaskans' constitutional right to privacy outweighed any harm that might occur from using a small amount of marijuana in the home. State legislators set that amount at 4 ounces in 1982.
Although 11 other states have “decriminalized” small amounts of marijuana for personal use, they generally set the limit at a single ounce and most levy a fine for possession, said Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.
Alaska's marijuana laws are “bar none” the most liberal in the country, he said.
Federal law prohibits any use of marijuana, but 11 states including Alaska allow it to be used for medicinal purposes.
Murkowski's marijuana bill is wrapped into legislation that seeks to curb the manufacture of methamphetamine and now awaits action in a legislative committee.
House Majority Leader John Coghill, a Republican, said the marriage of the two bills has caused some resentment within his caucus, especially among members who do not support the marijuana measure. Yet he believes the bill will pass.
If it does, Alaska would make pot possession of 4 ounces or more a felony. Possession of less than 4 ounces but more than an ounce would be a misdemeanor, punishable by up to a year in jail. Less than one ounce would be a misdemeanor punishable by up to 90 days in jail.
The Murkowski administration insists marijuana is a different drug now than it was in the 1970s and 1980s.
The bill says marijuana's psychoactive ingredient, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol or THC, is far more potent and dangerous today, especially for young people.
“If they're going to look at whether today's marijuana is still entitled to the same privacy protection, they need to look at what kind of drug we have now,” said Dean Guaneli, the state's chief assistant attorney general.
The state claims THC levels have risen tenfold or more over the last three decades. The state Department of Law provided legislators 30 years of data on THC potency of marijuana seized in Alaska.
But opponents say the data are flawed because testing in the 1970s was faulty.
The potency-versus-privacy issue is testing Alaska's image as a bastion of rugged individualism.
“It's the old thing of, you can do anything you want as long as you don't step on someone else's toes doing it,” said Marc Hellenthal, an Anchorage-based pollster who grew up in Alaska.
He says Alaskans' Libertarian-style leanings are alive and well in spirit.
Rival pollster David Dittman disagrees. He points out Alaskans voted to criminalize marijuana once again in 1990 – later struck down by the state Supreme Court – and twice turned down citizen initiatives that would have legalized the drug.
“I think it's just kind of an urban myth, that laissez-faire Libertarian element,” he said.
Bill Parker, a former state legislator, thinks a majority of Alaskans fall somewhere in the middle.
“I don't think Alaska is ready to say, just like Safeway has a tobacco shop, there ought to be a marijuana section,” said Parker, now a lobbyist for Alaskans for Marijuana Regulation and Control. “I'm not sure where they are but I know it's not where Frank Murkowski is.”

Tacky
04-16-2006, 01:11 PM
For anyone that wants to join the US military and smoke marijuana, when you're caught, enjoy that dishonorable discharge. You better hope the "right" person catches you, because if the wrong person does...not only will you be discharged, but you will be discharged with several bruises and broken bones. If you try to smoke it while you're deployed and you're caught, do not be surprised if you come home in a box. Risking men's lives for your "high" won't cut it.

My plans were to join the United States Marine Corps hopefuly join Force Recon, and then very hopefully get on with the NAVY SEALS. Now I know that I cant fulfill my dream! If your take any illeagal drug, and I mean ANY illeagal drug, you cannot join any top noch Specail forces groups.

A few things here, brainiac.

Number 1: If you wanted to join the Marines, unless you decided to later join the Navy, you were never going to be a Navy SEAL. Notice the word "Navy" in front of SEAL? I don't care what you saw in the movies, SEALs are all Navy.

Number 2: Marine Force Recon is a long shot for anyone. Opportunities are very few and far between, and depend more on being in the right place at the right time. It has gotten better with the recent "recon" contract, guaranteeing you a shot at Indoc during SOI, but not much.

Number 3: "Special Forces" is an Army asset only. It's a group title, just like Marine Recon, Army Rangers, Navy SEALs. "Army Special Forces." When refering to special operations units/groups in general, the correct term is "Special Operations Forces," or SOF.

Number 4: SOF generally requires a Top Secret Clearance. Having done drugs in the past is not necessarily a disqualifier, though it will not help you. The biggest reason people are turned away for past drug use is because they attempted to lie about it. Yes, they will and DO find out.

To anyone hoping for a career within SOF, I suggest you stay far away from drugs, while it may not necessarily disqualify you, it will make the process much more difficult. Why hang your future on a 50/50 chance? Stay clean, stop making excuses for breaking the law and using illegal substances and live healthy.

I suggest you keep yourself clean if you still have a desire to serve with any SOF unit in the future, Soul. I would also recommend you stop handing out advice about the military, so far, you're not hitting the mark very well.

Tacky
04-16-2006, 01:20 PM
Im replying to whoever it was that asked which branch should I join. Ive been in the Air Force for awhile, and can only say that every branch has intelligence and every branch you have to use your muscles. Look at the jobs that all the branches have to offer and pick which one you like. Unlike most people, I am not one to bash on other branches, being that Im an NCO. But I will say that im a combat controller. and if you think i dont have to use my muscles your sadly mistakin. The Air Force has treating very well over the past 6 years. I will also tell you that the Air Force is also the hardest branch to get into. If you want to know some about the Air Force just ask.

Wow, Joshua, you change AFSCs quickly, huh? In your last post you claimed:

Just curious as to how crossing from blue to green really works. As of right now I have been in the Air Force awhile holding a job as a crewchief on a B-52 Bomber. I was wondering what the army has to offer me that is any different from the air force. Also I would like to know if I have to go back to basic training and graduate the armys version. If someone would reply to this it would greatly be appreciated.

Now, all of a sudden you're a CCT (Combat Controller!) .. You must have taken that accelerated course, huh?

If you want to play CCT, I'll be happy to pass your name along to some CCTs that should have no problems locating you, thanks to your user name.

Humvy
05-29-2006, 10:01 AM
I smoke marijuana honestly everyday, but I have a few medical conditions. I have been smoking since I was 12 and almost everyday. I am 19 right now and have a lot of knowledge about marijuana. I am quitting when I go into the army, NO QUESITONS ASKED...you should never ever ever smoke marijuana when your in the army or even worse over in iraq or somewhere in combat...when your high, you're thinking and not cautious...you would be endangering your squad completely if you even smoked once while on a mission

subartist
07-04-2006, 05:11 PM
that is the question...

It's ususally best to err on the side of caution. That said...nothing is absolute.

Nothing is black and white.

You are the only one standing in your shoes. So don't listen to me.

That Kobiashi dude that won the hot dog eating contest is ripped.

darlene
07-06-2006, 01:36 PM
Hey my name is Ashley and I am only 15 at the moment and reading about this drug stuff really gets me thinking. I am extremely glad that I proudly do NOT do ANY drugs at all! I don't drink either, now being the typical teenager, I have tried it but only because this guy I was going out with like forced me to, BUT! I so got rid of him! I want to be in the Military one day, I'm in 9th grade and I'm in our NJROTC at school. Which branch of the military is better?

I understand that people are an influence on you but not forces you to do anything unless he was being abusive and in that case you should have put a stop to it. Sorry to be so blunt but i dislike when people say that they are forced to do theses things i understand there is peer presure but you are an individual and take responsibility for your own actions.

lola2212
07-06-2006, 04:07 PM
hi i know of someone who gat caught smoking and they booted him out...no if ands or buts about it....they take it very seriuosly!