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Grimes
01-28-2005, 11:01 PM
The Iraq's think we will just pick up and leave after the elections. I very seriously doubt that. We said we would fight this war through and so far we have. I read on a different forum that if we stop elections the insugents win. we go throught he elections and the insurgents kill alot of people and they win. They will get pissed off but I think we will ultimatly win.
Your thoughts?
Firefox
01-29-2005, 03:55 AM
The Iraq's think we will just pick up and leave after the elections. I very seriously doubt that. We said we would fight this war through and so far we have. I read on a different forum that if we stop elections the insugents win. we go throught he elections and the insurgents kill alot of people and they win. They will get pissed off but I think we will ultimatly win.
Your thoughts?
Well they have a totaly different mentality on things. what we need to do is stay there keep on doing what were sent to do.. for them its more than just a war its a religious matter and for that i do not think they will stop..and for that it is far worse! it is there land. and yes they hurt us in the worst way. but you have to realize what would you do if they invaded us? the same thing or as much as possible to do to get them out.. it is a complicated war.. not many understand.. im not with them or support them but you have to see every point of view before you judge anyone... i just pray for our troops to get out of that hell holoe and come home safe.. I hope i am not misunterstood bye this !! .. our military will have to stay for a very long time.. it is not a matter of just a few years its way longer than that.. it is not like the movies belive me... i wish out troops a safe return home and everyone the best..
Master CPL Forsyth :cool:
Grimes
01-29-2005, 07:59 AM
I here you there. People thought this war war would be over in a couple of months at the most.And now that it has been around 1 year we have been over there in Iraq.(I think) And they could care less about the elections, they just want the troops home. Hell i know i want the troops home. But i still back them all the way.
Grimes
01-30-2005, 09:21 PM
I was supriesed to see what was going on in Iraq today. Over an 8 million voter trun out. there were no blood baths as promised by the terroists. The voters ow it all to the closed roads. Now we just have to wait and see what happens in the days to come.
Firefox
01-31-2005, 04:03 AM
I was supriesed to see what was going on in Iraq today. Over an 8 million voter trun out. there were no blood baths as promised by the terroists. The voters ow it all to the closed roads. Now we just have to wait and see what happens in the days to come.
we hope for the best.. but they wont give in that easy. we are not dealing with normal people .. they are tough to hate us from the day they were born .. thats what makes them so dangerous... they think its gods will... its scary to think that. and im the fary god mother!!
i couldent care less about them but i care for my fellow troops and i wish them a s afe passage home!
Overlock
02-15-2005, 05:27 AM
Well they have a totaly different mentality on things. what we need to do is stay there keep on doing what were sent to do..
Master CPL Forsyth :cool:
I 1000% agree. We need to free that country work it's problems out.
While at the same time there are things going on over here in America that just are not good. IMO: The "anti-war protestors" (Who I say are brainwashed by communists)
Since the one thing I wouldn't want to happen to ANYONE is martial law due to a communist movement taking over America like it's trying to in a disguise :( (the anti war protest don't make me happy at all. Because I want LIBERTY here in the United States, NOT U.N. American Socialism or communism. :(
In my town I wish I could get a support the military rally organized but I wouldn't know how to start or who would help.
XxdeformedxperfectionxX
02-15-2005, 11:07 AM
I agree that the Anti-War protests are no good... No matter what the opinion is on the war at hand, you should show support for all the troops who are fighting for this country. At least that is how I view it, because it's not like one morning all the men and women who are in Iraq or have been woke up and said I'm going to start a war today. It wasn't their choice, therefore I believe that because they have to courage to stand up and fight for our country whether they agreed with the war or not people should be putting together support groups for the soldiers instead.
Firefox
02-17-2005, 06:22 AM
well i think we should help them as overlook said we should be more interested in American problems.. i agree 100% if the US government invested all that money in the USA they would have helped most of the economy ...... if they used all that money to help homless adn etc helthcare u know how good the american life would be???
Im a soldier but im against any war.. i wish death to know one.. but somthing has to be done and i hope its over with soon enough..
Yankpooper
06-05-2005, 08:33 PM
Grimes & Firefox, if you want to really help amerikkka, firstly go back to school and learn HOW TO SPELL!!!! God knows what your reading and verbal skills are like! What you don't realise is that the world laughs at you because of your functional illiteracy! Amerikkka needs well educated, literate professionals who will be able to compete with the 21st century's emerging superpowers, China and India!
As far as Iraq goes, stop whining about anti-war protesters! Isn't that what democracy is all about? Being able to express different political opinions, without fear, is surely the 'freedom' you keep talking about! The world sees your hypocrisy!!
I feel sorry for the troops out in Iraq for a number of reasons. Firstly, their safety and well-being. Secondly, I hate to see people get conned and thats exactly what the US government is doing, conning its own people! Thirdly, the staggering waste of money and resources is criminal! Bush and Co. will bankrupt amerikkka for generations and then what will you say? Ooops! I should say, 'what will your kids and grandkids say', as they will suffer the consequences?
Amerikkka has much more pressing needs then fighting illegal wars. Don't you have the largest federal budget deficit ever, no healthcare coverage for 40 MILLION people, school systems going down the pan, jobs getting 'outsourced', a prison population of 2 MILLION!!!! I could go on, but whats the point? Amerikkka can only get its self-respect back, and the respect of the world, when it starts to FIGHT things like poverty and injustice AT HOME first!! Put your own house in order before you start telling others to do the same! It only ends up making you look like hypocrits!
History is already proving Iraq to be a miserable failure and mistake, as was Vietnam. You can't force democracy at the point of a gun! Period!
hugo f garza
08-26-2005, 08:50 PM
although the inserjents may think that they will win the iraqi war i asure you they will not ,bur there is another war that the world doesnt realy want to accept, most of all the american plubic doesnt realy understand that the war in iraq is only the beginning ,terrorism in some that plaques the whole world and we have to accept that and prepare for by either joining the armed fordces or helping other americans udersant that its a new king of war,world war (WWIII).
kurusch
08-29-2005, 07:09 PM
although the inserjents may think that they will win the iraqi war i asure you they will not ,bur there is another war that the world doesnt realy want to accept, most of all the american plubic doesnt realy understand that the war in iraq is only the beginning ,terrorism in some that plaques the whole world and we have to accept that and prepare for by either joining the armed fordces or helping other americans udersant that its a new king of war,world war (WWIII).
Bollocks. The 'war' in Iraq has been lost by the coaltion already. What we're gonna end up with is a civil war followed by a fundamentalist Muslim government. Nice legacy Senor Brush.
As for 'helping America understand it's a new king of war', that's the bloody problem, the US is going to have to learn all over again that it needs allies and yes, friends. Finally, slowly, agonisilingly painfully, the people of the US and some of its leaders are realising you can't defeat terrorism with conventional war. Having increased the world population of terrorists, America will now have to appease the old friends it insulted and start some real work.
Texas
08-29-2005, 07:48 PM
Bollocks. The 'war' in Iraq has been lost by the coaltion already. What we're gonna end up with is a civil war followed by a fundamentalist Muslim government. Nice legacy Senor Brush.
As for 'helping America understand it's a new king of war', that's the bloody problem, the US is going to have to learn all over again that it needs allies and yes, friends. Finally, slowly, agonisilingly painfully, the people of the US and some of its leaders are realising you can't defeat terrorism with conventional war. Having increased the world population of terrorists, America will now have to appease the old friends it insulted and start some real work.
We can't afford to lose .Regardless of whether we agree or not .We simply can't lose . Its not an option ....
VeteranArmySGT
08-29-2005, 08:02 PM
We can't afford to lose .Regardless of whether we agree or not .We simply can't lose . Its not an option ....
I agree. Whether or not you agreed with the war before it started, it should be clear that we can not just walk out of there now. What has happened has happened and the job needs to be finished. If we do not provide Iraq the means and stability to get on it's own feet we will be back.
I am all about brining the troops home, but I am also all about finishing the mission. Iraq has been in the news so much though, I think that people are forgetting about Afghanistan. Soldiers are still dying over there, but no one is calling to bring them home. The mission in Afghanistan is not over either. Yes, it's on a much smaller scale, but still notable.
kurusch
08-29-2005, 08:59 PM
I certainly don't want the USUK to pull out before they've at least repaired the damage they've done and seen a moderate government in power. Whether that happens or not, is not up to us. The only long term winner here is Iran.
Texas
08-29-2005, 09:08 PM
I certainly don't want the USUK to pull out before they've at least repaired the damage they've done and seen a moderate government in power. Whether that happens or not, is not up to us. The only long term winner here is Iran.
As in regional super power?
kurusch
08-29-2005, 09:20 PM
As in regional super power?
Sort of I suppose. The US has traditionally seen Iran as its biggest threat since the Shah was deposed. It's ceratinly the most fundamentalist big power. Hence, American support for Sadam in the Iraq/Iran war. Ironic that an American government has done what Iran wanted for them.
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