Spec Ops Suggestions

[SpecOpsTriggerPuller]

This is my first thread here, and hoping to get some experienced people to give me some support and suggestions if any.

Im 19 and go to a military academy, Ive been getting ready for a life in special operations since I was 17. My father was a Green Beret and supports my goals.

Between me and my father we have a Rock River arms LAR-15, a Romanian AK-M70, a domestic Colt AR-15, and an array of other arms. We shoot alot, and I have heard that it really doesnt matter what you shoot as long as you shoot put thousands of rounds down range. However since I have not yet been in the military, I have heard that I shouldnt shoot much due to bad shooting habbits. Although my father teaches me well.

Now, Im used to getting up at 5:45 AM for over the past 2 years, and go to the weight room 5 days a week. What I am worried about is that I am in a bulk workout not an endurance workout, I dont run that much but I can easly do 2 miles in about 12-13 minutes. Any advice on things I should prepare for before I start my long march through Ranger training.

Any tips or remarks that are useful are appreciated, by the way... I will know if you have no idea what your talking about.

Thanks

[Tacky]

This is my first thread here, and hoping to get some experienced people to give me some support and suggestions if any.

Im 19 and go to a military academy, Ive been getting ready for a life in special operations since I was 17. My father was a Green Beret and supports my goals.

Between me and my father we have a Rock River arms LAR-15, a Romanian AK-M70, a domestic Colt AR-15, and an array of other arms. We shoot alot, and I have heard that it really doesnt matter what you shoot as long as you shoot put thousands of rounds down range. However since I have not yet been in the military, I have heard that I shouldnt shoot much due to bad shooting habbits. Although my father teaches me well.

Now, Im used to getting up at 5:45 AM for over the past 2 years, and go to the weight room 5 days a week. What I am worried about is that I am in a bulk workout not an endurance workout, I dont run that much but I can easly do 2 miles in about 12-13 minutes. Any advice on things I should prepare for before I start my long march through Ranger training.

Any tips or remarks that are useful are appreciated, by the way... I will know if you have no idea what your talking about.

Thanks

Good, since your father is former SF, you'll have no problems swallowing the pill I'm about to give you.

First, you need to get rid of that ****ing screen name. You aren't SpecOps and you certainly aren't a trigger puller. Misrepresenting yourself will get your *** gone faster than anything within the SOF community.

For someone so ****y to believe you'd "know" if they have "no idea" what they're talking about, seems that little point would have struck you when making your name.

Now, let's try this again, on the right foot and I'll give you all of the current info your little heart can desire.

Let me know when you're ready.

[Exo1]

This is my first thread here, and hoping to get some experienced people to give me some support and suggestions if any.


Any tips or remarks that are useful are appreciated, by the way... I will know if you have no idea what your talking about.

Thanks

Welcome to the forum man....

How will you know if we will know what we are talking about is correct?.... anyway, thats not that important... Listen to Tacky, his post is 150% correct, and the best advice you can get at present... ID yourself as formerly SOTP and as Tacky says, he will answer all your questions until your hearts content...;) Tacky's US Army SF and best positioned to help you then anybody here....

[Nightflyer]

This is my first thread here, and hoping to get some experienced people to give me some support and suggestions if any.

Im 19 and go to a military academy, Ive been getting ready for a life in special operations since I was 17. My father was a Green Beret and supports my goals.

Between me and my father we have a Rock River arms LAR-15, a Romanian AK-M70, a domestic Colt AR-15, and an array of other arms. We shoot alot, and I have heard that it really doesnt matter what you shoot as long as you shoot put thousands of rounds down range. However since I have not yet been in the military, I have heard that I shouldnt shoot much due to bad shooting habbits. Although my father teaches me well.

Now, Im used to getting up at 5:45 AM for over the past 2 years, and go to the weight room 5 days a week. What I am worried about is that I am in a bulk workout not an endurance workout, I dont run that much but I can easly do 2 miles in about 12-13 minutes. Any advice on things I should prepare for before I start my long march through Ranger training.

Any tips or remarks that are useful are appreciated, by the way... I will know if you have no idea what your talking about.

Thanks

Dude you better be training for speed I'll tell ya that.
At Ft Jackson I trained with Army Rangers (two D/S are Army Rangers) and all they did from dusk till dawn was P/T training and run and it wasn't no two miles....
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One day I was asked to train with them and I ran five miles in the morning as fast as I could to keep up and did P/T training and ran another two miles as dusk...till I dropped and I m in best shape of my life. I avg 6.15 a mile..... and Im a college hockey player. Train for speed and look to learn all over again.....Start anew....like Tacky says. He knows belive me.

My dad was a pilot and just retired four years ago with the Army National Guard and was in the Army as a blackhawk pilot ....he said it's a new Army from the days he was active.......

1.Weight train with many reps...build strength not bulk.
2.Work on foot speed..20x20 grids.run from one corner to the next and across...side to side..backwards...forwards.
3.Run three mile mornings and sprints of 10..20..50..100 yards....everyday.
4. Ride a bike ...stationary is ok.
5. Get your rest...you will miss sleeping.
6. Eat right

Good luck
Nightflyer

[Exo1]

Dude you better be training for speed I'll tell ya that.
At Ft Jackson I trained with Army Rangers (two D/S are Army Rangers) and all they did from dusk till dawn was P/T training and run and it wasn't no two miles....
.
One day I was asked to train with them and I ran five miles in the morning as fast as I could to keep up and did P/T training and ran another two miles as dusk...till I dropped and I m in best shape of my life. I avg 6.15 a mile..... and Im a college hockey player. Train for speed and look to learn all over again.....Start anew....like Tacky says. He knows belive me.

My dad was a pilot and just retired four years ago with the Army National Guard and was in the Army as a blackhawk pilot ....he said it's a new Army from the days he was active.......

1.Weight train with many reps...build strength not bulk.
2.Work on foot speed..20x20 grids.run from one corner to the next and across...side to side..backwards...forwards.
3.Run three mile mornings and sprints of 10..20..50..100 yards....everyday.
4. Ride a bike ...stationary is ok.
5. Get your rest...you will miss sleeping.
6. Eat right

Good luck
Nightflyer






Very good advice!..

[JBMcCain]

This is my first thread here, and hoping to get some experienced people to give me some support and suggestions if any.

Im 19 and go to a military academy, Ive been getting ready for a life in special operations since I was 17. My father was a Green Beret and supports my goals.

Between me and my father we have a Rock River arms LAR-15, a Romanian AK-M70, a domestic Colt AR-15, and an array of other arms. We shoot alot, and I have heard that it really doesnt matter what you shoot as long as you shoot put thousands of rounds down range. However since I have not yet been in the military, I have heard that I shouldnt shoot much due to bad shooting habbits. Although my father teaches me well.

Now, Im used to getting up at 5:45 AM for over the past 2 years, and go to the weight room 5 days a week. What I am worried about is that I am in a bulk workout not an endurance workout, I dont run that much but I can easly do 2 miles in about 12-13 minutes. Any advice on things I should prepare for before I start my long march through Ranger training.

Any tips or remarks that are useful are appreciated, by the way... I will know if you have no idea what your talking about.

Thanks

........ Doesn't add up.

If your dad was SF, he could tell you everything you need to know. And he would definatly forwarn you about giveing yourself any moniker or title that represents something you haven't earned yet.

All those guns... Whatever, most door-kickers will tell you that there just tools. They may seem high-speed to you though.

As for your workouts, nightflyers right, get your *** in gear and start running.

You seem to have this mis-conception that to have an advantage as a potential Ranger/SF wannabee,you would have to have a pre-disposition of an upbring consiting of shooting, and a SF dad.

The only advantage anyone has that goes through thoses pipes is their desire, and their balls.

If I'm wrong, and your being 100% honest. It would probably serve you better to leave the first 2 points you made out from now on.

P.S. I'm am not an operator.

[Tacky]

........ Doesn't add up.

If your dad was SF, he could tell you everything you need to know. And he would definatly forwarn you about giveing yourself any moniker or title that represents something you haven't earned yet.

All those guns... Whatever, most door-kickers will tell you that there just tools. They may seem high-speed to you though.

As for your workouts, nightflyers right, get your *** in gear and start running.

You seem to have this mis-conception that to have an advantage as a potential Ranger/SF wannabee,you would have to have a pre-disposition of an upbring consiting of shooting, and a SF dad.

The only advantage anyone has that goes through thoses pipes is their desire, and their balls.

If I'm wrong, and your being 100% honest. It would probably serve you better to leave the first 2 points you made out from now on.

P.S. I'm am not an operator.

Your points are good but one. The fact that his father may or may not be prior SF (I can check easily with a name) doesn't matter. A lot has changed, in fact, we're changing things daily. While the foundation and basic concepts may stay the same, most everything else evolves.

I can give him all of the information and advice he needs that is accurate and up to date for SFAS but will not until he has done as directed. Of course, were he truly inclinded for SOF, he'd have thought to do a search and would find tons of posts I have already made about it.

[Exo1]

Your points are good but one. The fact that his father may or may not be prior SF (I can check easily with a name) doesn't matter. A lot has changed, in fact, we're changing things daily. While the foundation and basic concepts may stay the same, most everything else evolves.

I can give him all of the information and advice he needs that is accurate and up to date for SFAS but will not until he has done as directed. Of course, were he truly inclinded for SOF, he'd have thought to do a search and would find tons of posts I have already made about it.

Very good point Tacky, problem solving ability is not given in SF training, it is brought into SF training.... whilst Im no operator past or present... I can say that initiative of the thinking soldier is needed when you are working in an unconventional situation...

[Nightflyer]

Your points are good but one. The fact that his father may or may not be prior SF (I can check easily with a name) doesn't matter. A lot has changed, in fact, we're changing things daily. While the foundation and basic concepts may stay the same, most everything else evolves.

I can give him all of the information and advice he needs that is accurate and up to date for SFAS but will not until he has done as directed. Of course, were he truly inclinded for SOF, he'd have thought to do a search and would find tons of posts I have already made about it.

Tacky, I hope you and maybe JB and uncle Ex are be proud of me. Im doing cq duty in the sgt majors office and took quick step advantage of using the office screens to say hi....my Lap and cell are on hold till mon, when Aviation 15P classes start. ......I needed to say hi to my family and the love of my life ....

Figure. I mine as well stop by and say hey ho....

I have to get back to my duty....How's that..... for a thinking soldier.......Lol.

Peace

Nightflyer

[Exo1]

Tacky, I hope you and maybe JB and uncle Ex are be proud of me. Im doing cq duty in the sgt majors office and took quick step advantage of using the office screens to say hi....my Lap and cell are on hold till mon, when Aviation 15P classes start. ......I needed to say hi to my family and the love of my life ....

Figure. I mine as well stop by and say hey ho....

I have to get back to my duty....How's that..... for a thinking soldier.......Lol.

Peace

Nightflyer

A fine example of thinking outside of the box... just dont let the Sgt Mjr catch you.... ;)

And yes, Uncle Ex is proud of ya.... such actions deserve high praise, and are in line with the unwritten rule book of my last unit prior to leaving.... I think a mate summed it up when asked what he did for a living... his answer was "as little as possible as often as possible!".... :cool:

[Nightflyer]

A fine example of thinking outside of the box... just dont let the Sgt Mjr catch you.... ;)

And yes, Uncle Ex is proud of ya.... such actions deserve high praise, and are in line with the unwritten rule book of my last unit prior to leaving.... I think a mate summed it up when asked what he did for a living... his answer was "as little as possible as often as possible!".... :cool:


Thanx Ex...I actually posted from my lap last night. I was given my stuff back yesterday. I love FT Ruckers, so much to do like good old PT training. There's so much to do here...

I want to do everything.....all in good time. 1-160th SOAR (A) the Nightstalkers..Hey ho.. Officers school......I love it here....

With the consolidation of all Army Aviation flight training at Fort Rucker in 1973, the post became the mecca for Army aviators. Air Force helicopter pilots have also been trained here since 1971, as have students from more than 60 foreign countries. They teach everything from initial entry rotary-wing courses to advanced courses in aviation safety.


The United States Army Aviation Museum, located in South-central Alabama, maintains a collection

of over 160 military aircraft, including one of the largest collections of military helicopters in the world. Public galleries represent the Army's involvement in aviation from the beginning days of the Wright brothers and early combat aircraft from World War I, to the highly technological machines flown by Army Aviators today.


The museum, I hear is the best...can't wait to see it. We can leave and go out on the weekends but only with the buddy system....never alone. This duty training is going to be the best. The captain.... already says he likes my readiness and my knowledge of how everything must be.... like Panama beach, Fla....Ha ha.

[Exo1]

Thanx Ex...I actually posted from my lap last night. I was given my stuff back yesterday. I love FT Ruckers, so much to do like good old PT training. There's so much to do here...

I want to do everything.....all in good time. 1-160th SOAR (A) the Nightstalkers..Hey ho.. Officers school......I love it here....

With the consolidation of all Army Aviation flight training at Fort Rucker in 1973, the post became the mecca for Army aviators. Air Force helicopter pilots have also been trained here since 1971, as have students from more than 60 foreign countries. They teach everything from initial entry rotary-wing courses to advanced courses in aviation safety.


The United States Army Aviation Museum, located in South-central Alabama, maintains a collection

of over 160 military aircraft, including one of the largest collections of military helicopters in the world. Public galleries represent the Army's involvement in aviation from the beginning days of the Wright brothers and early combat aircraft from World War I, to the highly technological machines flown by Army Aviators today.


The museum, I hear is the best...can't wait to see it. We can leave and go out on the weekends but only with the buddy system....never alone. This duty training is going to be the best. The captain.... already says he likes my readiness and my knowledge of how everything must be.... like Panama beach, Fla....Ha ha.


Well done brother man.. it sounds like you have found your home away from home. Its always good to be comfortable with your charter and course... Like the avatar too.. that your unit deccard/flash??.... Very cool...

You can catch up on your aviation history too.. did you know the human race has evolved more in technology in the last 100 years then we have done in the last 10,000 years prior... something else eh... Aviation is part of that rapid evolution.... good to have such facilities available...

Its good your Captain is taking an interest in yourself... shows your getting noticed..... My last Captain was a maniac... but he was my kind of maniac... :D His management model was if he wasnt near you, you were doing it right..... your Captain seems to be a little more pro-active.. Nice one...

Enjoy Alabama brother man, and say "Whatsssup" to some southern Belles for me.... ;)

[Nightflyer]

Well done brother man.. it sounds like you have found your home away from home. Its always good to be comfortable with your charter and course... Like the avatar too.. that your unit deccard/flash??.... Very cool...

You can catch up on your aviation history too.. did you know the human race has evolved more in technology in the last 100 years then we have done in the last 10,000 years prior... something else eh... Aviation is part of that rapid evolution.... good to have such facilities available...

Its good your Captain is taking an interest in yourself... shows your getting noticed..... My last Captain was a maniac... but he was my kind of maniac... :D His management model was if he wasnt near you, you were doing it right..... your Captain seems to be a little more pro-active.. Nice one...

Enjoy Alabama brother man, and say "Whatsssup" to some southern Belles for me.... ;)


I have to do my duty from the ground up. My unit flash...Lol. I have to earn it. You would love here...just bring the cold ones. The crest of the Nightstalkers is filled with much history and pride.... and it's everywhere. Im A-Co. 1st battalion. 113th Aviation Regiment. Check this out....160th SOAR(A)

160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne)
"Night Stalkers Don't Quit"
Regiment motto
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Fact Sheet
The Army owes its modern night fighting aviation capabilities to the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) who pioneered night flight techniques, shared in the development of equipment, and proved that "Night Stalkers Don't Quit" a motto the Regiment lives by. The unit originally was formed from attachments from the 101st Aviation Battalion, 158th Aviation Battalion, 229th Aviation Battalion and the 159th Aviation Battalion, immediately entered into a period of intensive night flying and quickly became the Army's premier night fighting aviation force and the Army's only Special Operations Aviation force. Task Force 160 was officially recognized as a Unit on 16 October 1981 when it was designated as the 160th Aviation Battalion. Since that time, the 160th has become known as the "Night Stalkers," because of their capability to strike undetected during darkness, and their distinguished performance around the world.

The 160th received its baptism by fire during Operation URGENT FURY in Grenada. Despite flying against a heavily armed Cuban and Grenadan force, the Task Force was able to complete its mission. Since 1983, the unit has responded to numerous missions at the request of the National Command Authority. This includes the eminently successful MOUNT HOPE III Operation in June 1988, performed in the most demanding environmental flight conditions imaginable, clearly demonstrating the ability of man and machine to strike deep, accomplish the mission and return safely. Night Stalkers participated in Operations PRIME CHANCE conducting sustained operations and ably supported a joint military Task Force under extraordinarily difficult and hazardous conditions. Aircrews of the 160th habitually operated 30 feet above the water, at night, using night vision goggles and forward looking infrared devices.

Operation PRIME CHANCE resulted in the first successful night combat engagement which neutralized an enemy threat while using Aviator Night Vision Goggles and Forward Looking Infrared Devices.

Night Stalkers were called upon to spearhead Operation JUST CAUSE, the liberation of Panama. Soldiers of the 160th deployed from Fort Campbell during the harshest winter conditions on record into the sweltering darkness of Panama. Night Stalkers conducted successful pre H-Hour combat airborne and air assaults, striking the first blows to oust a hostile dictator and safeguard American and Panamanian lives. The reckless and senseless destruction of Kuwait was met by the swift introduction of Special Operations Aviation into the Southwest Asia theater of operations. Both operations proved the 160th's ability to conduct complicated night and sustained combat operations as a Unit against a determined enemy. In October 1993, while supporting the requirements of the National Command Authority, Night Stalkers engaged an unconventional hostile force under the direction of gang leader, Farah Aideed. The soldiers of the 160th entered into an 18-hour firelight of an intensity that had not been encountered since Vietnam. The dedicated efforts exhibited by these soldiers to overcome adversity and rescue fellow comrades once again demonstrated that Night Stalkers don't quit. The courageous response of the Army's only special operations aviation unit has successfully deterred aggressive and provocative threats by those who seek harm upon our country, bolstered national morale and prestige, and support national foreign policy goals.

As the 160th has evolved, various unit configurations have occurred. On 16 October 1986, the tough warrior spirit of the airborne and the tenacious determination of the Night Stalkers were joined as the Task Force further evolved and became an airborne Unit. With redesignation as the 160th Aviation Group (Airborne), came the honored and rich tradition of the airborne soldier. The organization continued to grow and was officially activated as the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) in June 1990. Responding to an increased demand for elite highly trained special operations aviation assets, the Regiment activated three battalions, a separate detachment, and incorporated one National Guard battalion.

Today, as in the past, the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) remains ready to defeat any threat.

That's The Nightstalkers....soon. I must admit it's exciting and lots of hard work. Im on top of the list for school. Theirs soldiers who just came in and they have a very long wait and their kinda pissed. There's a waiting list that's endless. You have to wait a good long time and my classroom space was arranged by old glory and uncle sam last year.. The road from that point is at least a year. They have to make sure there's classroom space. Two more week wait. Were ready to get going and start....Im ready. Talk to you sometime this week..........Oh...if you get a chance please send me my hockey stick and ball...the vapor 30 stick.....I need to score goals...Lol.


Nightflyer

[Exo1]

Great Facts Prof Nightflyer, can see why its become your home away from home.... Cool unit motto too...... Score Goals bro.... all work and no play... well you know the rest..

Exo..