View Full Version : Just venting about the extentions
sweetashoney
05-12-2007, 08:57 AM
Hey everybody!
Sorry but I really do need to vent. My boyfriend called me up in tears last Wednesday night and told me that he got extended until the end of December/beginning of January. It is just SO unfair! I don't understand what the congressmen, -women and most of all Bush are trying to do with this (well, building up the troops' size by letting them stay longer won't help fight the terrorism) and what I am really enraged about is that they never think about the families, kids, gfs, etc. back home and what they have to go through! Ever since my boyfriend told me I kinda fell into this black hole and nothing can really cheer me up again =( It's actually kinda tough for me since I know that he doesn't get treated very well by his unit (he is the only computer specialist in a chem. unit)! Plus, they are stationed in Kuwait doing basically nothin... =( Sorry about complaining but I just had to vent! Maybe someone else is suffering from an extension, too? And can contribute his/her thoughts?
Tacky
05-12-2007, 06:17 PM
Yeah, there are a lot of guys sitting in Baghdad and TJ right now that have been there for almost 14 or 15 months ... they aren't just sitting around, they're patrolling and getting shot at every single day ... they've seen their friends die and they've watched small children get blown up.
Why don't you try being thankful for what you're actually getting and tell your boyfriend to stop being a *****. He's got it easy.
Those are my words of encouragement, I doubt they're what you were wanting.
sweetashoney
05-13-2007, 01:32 AM
Hi Tacky!
Well, thanks for your reply! I do actually think that my boyfriend is lucky because he is stationed in Kuwait. I know a few people who are stationed in the hell and are going through hell there as well and I am really proud of each and every one. I am thankful for what they are doing although I do have my doubts about Bush's newest strategy. I did NOT in any way say that I am not thankful what all the wonderful man and woman are doing over in Iraq and Afghanistan, what I was rather mad about were the stupid decisions a stupid person makes and which affect not only me but actually everyone- also the service man and woman in Iraq and Afghanistan! Just as much as their families, gfs, etc back home! And well, what I was trying to bring across with the whole Kuwait thing was that they are doing nothing... well, I have no clue how you see it but I think it would be a lot smarter to use tax money a lot better than to waste it on soldiers who are sitting in Kuwait with no purpose. Well, if Bush wants to waste, he is more than welcome to send me a check so I can buy me a Louis Vuitton bag ;-) Anyways, please stop making comments about my boyfriend when you don't even know him- he is a Veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom (2004-2005)!
Tacky
05-13-2007, 02:15 AM
Hi Tacky!
Well, thanks for your reply! I do actually think that my boyfriend is lucky because he is stationed in Kuwait. I know a few people who are stationed in the hell and are going through hell there as well and I am really proud of each and every one. I am thankful for what they are doing although I do have my doubts about Bush's newest strategy. I did NOT in any way say that I am not thankful what all the wonderful man and woman are doing over in Iraq and Afghanistan, what I was rather mad about were the stupid decisions a stupid person makes and which affect not only me but actually everyone- also the service man and woman in Iraq and Afghanistan! Just as much as their families, gfs, etc back home! And well, what I was trying to bring across with the whole Kuwait thing was that they are doing nothing... well, I have no clue how you see it but I think it would be a lot smarter to use tax money a lot better than to waste it on soldiers who are sitting in Kuwait with no purpose. Well, if Bush wants to waste, he is more than welcome to send me a check so I can buy me a Louis Vuitton bag ;-) Anyways, please stop making comments about my boyfriend when you don't even know him- he is a Veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom (2004-2005)!
A "veteran" of OEF, big deal? I've been there three times, some guys have been there more .. I've also spent quite a few days in Iraq and other hell holes .. and again, so have other guys. Spending time on the FOB your entire deployment doesn't really make life that "hard," in fact .. it's about as easy as life gets. If he's whining and crying about having to stay in Kuwait while his BROTHERS are dying, then what I said stands. He needs a swift kick in the ***.
Tell him to whine when he deploys for 28 months straight, 19 of those months with hardly any contact to his family, esp. his wife and kids .. all the while running combat operations day in and day out. Yeah, guys are doing that.
You'll have to excuse me if I don't cry a river for your boyfriend's little issue, because it is just that .. little if not insignificant.
Rock-Steady
05-13-2007, 11:27 AM
please stop making comments about my boyfriend when you don't even know him- he is a Veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom (2004-2005)!
We only know of your boyfriend what you've said about him. So, if there's a negative perception of your boyfriend, you created it.
soldiers who are sitting in Kuwait with no purpose.
If there's an immediate need to replace personnel in the hostile area, it can be done more quickly and efficiently if some are on stand-by nearby. Plus, it's never a waste of time to be in theatre, you get training and experience you couldn't get otherwise. He can choose to take the positives from the experience or he can whine about the whole thing. I've learned that whining about it ALWAYS makes it miserable. It feeds on itself.
Did he do anything in OEF, or was it the same situation?
Tell him to whine when he deploys for 28 months straight, 19 of those months with hardly any contact to his family, esp. his wife and kids .. all the while running combat operations day in and day out. Yeah, guys are doing that.
You'll have to excuse me if I don't cry a river for your boyfriend's little issue, because it is just that .. little if not insignificant.
Yikes... 28 months.. thats too long by any standard.. my hats off to the ladz who added a different dimension to "Enduring Freedom"... more like "Enduring Tour"..
Sweetashoney, I hope Tackys insight has put your BFs issues in context.. they say the grass is always greener in the next field, well it can work in reverse too...
sweetashoney
05-18-2007, 09:07 AM
Hey you guys! I can understand you but every time when I try to make an effort to tell you how bad his situation is (yeah, it's not always fun to be in a unit full of rednecks when you are the only sane computer specialist), you just come right back at me and kinda "slap me in the face". Just because my boyfriend is "only" deployed in Kuwait for 15 months, I am not allowed to whine about it?!? I know that there are other people out there who might have to stay longer and in Iraq/Afghanistan and I feel totally sad for them but I think I am still allowed to cry over my boyfriend's extension. After all, I am just a person, not a machine- I have feelings! Well, sorry for whining- it's not easy when you find out that one of your loved one's got extended. I guess I was just being a girly girl. I think I finally accepted it and no, I am not gonna whine anymore! Thanks for listening, though...
sweetashoney
05-18-2007, 09:15 AM
@Rock-Steady: No, it was not the same situation. He was actually one of the first ones to enter Afghanistan and it was quite dangerous. Well, he actually told me that he would rather like to be deployed there than to be in the situation he is in right now since there is so much bull**** going on... well, the thing is that they are never training! All they do is sit around at the office and do nothing... he has been deployed for about 7 months now and they haven't done a single mission yet (well, in my opinion, it's pretty nice since that might mean that they won't deploy to Iraq/Afghanistan)
Common Sence
05-18-2007, 01:29 PM
Hey you guys! I can understand you but every time when I try to make an effort to tell you how bad his situation is (yeah, it's not always fun to be in a unit full of rednecks when you are the only sane computer specialist), you just come right back at me and kinda "slap me in the face". Just because my boyfriend is "only" deployed in Kuwait for 15 months, I am not allowed to whine about it?!? I know that there are other people out there who might have to stay longer and in Iraq/Afghanistan and I feel totally sad for them but I think I am still allowed to cry over my boyfriend's extension. After all, I am just a person, not a machine- I have feelings! Well, sorry for whining- it's not easy when you find out that one of your loved one's got extended. I guess I was just being a girly girl. I think I finally accepted it and no, I am not gonna whine anymore! Thanks for listening, though...
People here tend not to understand feelings. Or people, or humanity. You just have to accept, I guess that the folks who have "slapped" you, tow a really simple line.....if you complain your a coward or sissy or your just wrong. It's a really simple mindset, and I wish I could find it.....but I'm a humanitarian, not a drone. I'm not satisfied, just saying "YES SIR", and believing all is good.
I'm sure this will burn me, but I think if you have a family that you love, you shouldn't join the military....especially if you could leave a motherless or fatherless son or daughter behind. I don't think this war threatens us though, so I further feel disrespect to people who would leave their families for this cause. If the time comes, everyone who can should fight. IF.
When you complain about your situation, people don't stop to consider, YOUR situation. They find one that is worse and then weild insults at you for having the odasity to complain in the first place. Yes, it could be worse....but yes it could most certainly be better. It would seem, that if some people are deployed for 28 months, then everyone should, and those who aren't and complain about their tour time/location are for admonishment. BS. If life is a hell for some people, the attitude here seems to be that it should be for everyone. Well, NO. It should not be like that for everyone. Or anyone. 1 in 3 troops coming back from Iraq now is suffering social and family reintegration problems that they did not have before leaving. The attitude in this thread would have, what, 2 in 3 coming back with issues....and god knows it must because those people are sissies, or cowards, or something. It's a sad deal.
I'm not a soldier, sweetashoney, mom served in the Air Force though and I have good friends who are in the Navy and a couple in the Army. They all are on the same page as me......so armchair warrior or not, I am confident with what I am saying. ....as my friends in the military agree with it.
Rock-Steady
05-18-2007, 02:35 PM
I agree with Common about enlisting with family to maintain...bad idea. It creates too many problems with relationships.
Everyone who's ever been deployed outside the combat zone had to deal with the same situation. Mine was Bosnia, before operations started in Kosovo.
I think the majority on this forum don't intend to be insensitive. After you've been in the military for a while, you tend to use logic and reason before emotion and such (when dealing with military operations). So, while you miss your boyfriend and really don't see a reason for him being there and being miserable, we focus on the fact that he's there just in case...It gets you through those "hurry up and wait" periods your boyfriend is in now.
You convince yourself that you are there for a purpose. Otherwise, the entire year will be a miserable one and that probably increase your chances of needing to see the head shrinker when you get back.
I agree with Common about enlisting with family to maintain...bad idea. It creates too many problems with relationships.
Everyone who's ever been deployed outside the combat zone had to deal with the same situation. Mine was Bosnia, before operations started in Kosovo.
I think the majority on this forum don't intend to be insensitive. After you've been in the military for a while, you tend to use logic and reason before emotion and such (when dealing with military operations). So, while you miss your boyfriend and really don't see a reason for him being there and being miserable, we focus on the fact that he's there just in case...It gets you through those "hurry up and wait" periods your boyfriend is in now.
You convince yourself that you are there for a purpose. Otherwise, the entire year will be a miserable one and that probably increase your chances of needing to see the head shrinker when you get back.
Funny you mention the whole detachment thingy.. 10 yrs later, Im in my job as a Manager, all bar one in my department are sound, on learning curves, but willing and eager to learn, and Im eager to teach and support my folks in acheiving their goals... But theres ALWAYS one.. she a golddigging ***** who just has tried every angle in the book to get a claim from the company, shes a emotionally retarded ****bag who needs to grow up and stop her greedyness, before it consumes her soul... she started shouting at me in her desclipinary (one of many infractions landed her in hot water today) today and said "YOU DONT CARE ABOUT ME FEELINGS!"... oh.. if she only knew... if she only knew... times like that when I truely missed the military.... feckin crybaby civvis... Sorry, I digress... Sweetashoney, nobody means to be busting your chops over your BF getting the extension... it sucks for sure, but the points made are just saying that theres others out there who have a much rawer deal then your BF... express yourself, I do, if it gets into trouble with others, so be it.. ;)
Common Sence
05-18-2007, 05:16 PM
Funny you mention the whole detachment thingy.. 10 yrs later, Im in my job as a Manager, all bar one in my department are sound, on learning curves, but willing and eager to learn, and Im eager to teach and support my folks in acheiving their goals... But theres ALWAYS one.. she a golddigging ***** who just has tried every angle in the book to get a claim from the company, shes a emotionally retarded ****bag who needs to grow up and stop her greedyness, before it consumes her soul... she started shouting at me in her desclipinary (one of many infractions landed her in hot water today) today and said "YOU DONT CARE ABOUT ME FEELINGS!"... oh.. if she only knew... if she only knew... times like that when I truely missed the military.... feckin crybaby civvis... Sorry, I digress... Sweetashoney, nobody means to be busting your chops over your BF getting the extension... it sucks for sure, but the points made are just saying that theres others out there who have a much rawer deal then your BF... express yourself, I do, if it gets into trouble with others, so be it.. ;)
I hear ya'. I used to supervise about 80 people. Half summer workers form highschool. I will never do it again. :)
Tacky
05-18-2007, 05:21 PM
I love when civilians add their perspectives on deployments and the military mindset. It's nothing but full fledged ignorant comedy.
I esp. love "I have friends in the military, I know!"
:rolleyes:
torspo[fin]
05-18-2007, 08:21 PM
I love when civilians add their perspectives on deployments and the military mindset. It's nothing but full fledged ignorant comedy.
I esp. love "I have friends in the military, I know!"
:rolleyes:
perhaps. but it does some good for you aswell.
Tacky
05-18-2007, 10:31 PM
;42078']perhaps. but it does some good for you aswell.
That doesn't make any sense.
sweetashoney
05-19-2007, 06:07 AM
@common_sense: thanks SO much for your post- it really expressed what was on my mind! I totally agree with you- even though I am not military. It's really strange but every time a civilian complains on this forum, there are some people who show insensitivity and to me it comes over as total disrespect. I don't want to go on about this because frankly, I hate being mad and I hate when someone forces me to react like a total smartass :D So, thanks to everybody for responding to this subject.
That doesn't make any sense.
Add enough vodka and it does.... :D
I hear ya'. I used to supervise about 80 people. Half summer workers form highschool. I will never do it again. :)
Its a hard job managing people who wanna do the job, and its ten times harder managing ****bags... good life experience though....
Nightflyer
05-19-2007, 07:39 AM
Add enough vodka and it does.... :D
Yea, man. It does.Lol.....funny.
Yea, man. It does.Lol.....funny.
lol..what time is it your end, early to rise, or late to bed??....:D
Tacky
05-19-2007, 05:40 PM
Add enough vodka and it does.... :D
Maybe that's my problem, I don't drink enough prior to coming on here to understand some of these idiots.
Maybe that's my problem, I don't drink enough prior to coming on here to understand some of these idiots.
Lol.. maybe....:D
Nightflyer
05-20-2007, 09:55 AM
Lol.. maybe....:D
I'm lucky! I serve with soldiers like Tacky. Lol. Tacky is awesome.I don't ever want to piss him off or talk about s74t I don't know nothing about.....I just go about my business.
Nightflyer
05-20-2007, 10:16 AM
lol..what time is it your end, early to rise, or late to bed??....:D
No way man! yesterday I had to be up at 0600 hrs to get things done and had to report to my unit at 1000hrs.....I'm a good boy. I had some cd's for my MSG.Lol. I love hanging around my unit even on off days....It's a good time for me to ask questions and learn alot on my free time from my msg and cwo's.... Our operational aviation facilities are the best.....My msg told me to go home around 1300hrs and enjoy the day since I already had the day off... You be surprised how much more you can learn just by hanging out.....
Rock-Steady
05-20-2007, 11:29 AM
Maybe that's my problem, I don't drink enough prior to coming on here to understand some of these idiots.
Liberals speak a different language... their own. You have to think back to when you were just a lad of about six years old... that's the mind of a liberal. :rolleyes:
I'm lucky! I serve with soldiers like Tacky. Lol. Tacky is awesome.I don't ever want to piss him off or talk about s74t I don't know nothing about.....I just go about my business.
Fair point bro.. but ya gotta be able to laugh too.. hell knows, with my sense of humour, Im a big threat to myself....:D
No way man! yesterday I had to be up at 0600 hrs to get things done and had to report to my unit at 1000hrs.....I'm a good boy. I had some cd's for my MSG.Lol. I love hanging around my unit even on off days....It's a good time for me to ask questions and learn alot on my free time from my msg and cwo's.... Our operational aviation facilities are the best.....My msg told me to go home around 1300hrs and enjoy the day since I already had the day off... You be surprised how much more you can learn just by hanging out.....
Now theres enthusiasm for ya.. well played bro.. but remember, a change is as good as a rest... dont forget to recharge the batteries bro.. you get more miles to the gallon as a result...
Liberals speak a different language... their own. You have to think back to when you were just a lad of about six years old... that's the mind of a liberal. :rolleyes:
Oh Crap!!... Im a liberal...... NOOOOOO..... theres more like me... damnit!.. I thought I was special!!....:D
Rock-Steady
05-20-2007, 01:47 PM
Oh Crap!!... Im a liberal...... NOOOOOO..... theres more like me... damnit!.. I thought I was special!!....:D
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:cool:
JBMcCain
05-20-2007, 02:09 PM
Liberals speak a different language... their own. You have to think back to when you were just a lad of about six years old... that's the mind of a liberal. :rolleyes:
Now that, was priceless.
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:cool:
lol.. very funny!!.....:D
Common Sence
05-21-2007, 09:49 AM
Oh Crap!!... Im a liberal...... NOOOOOO..... theres more like me... damnit!.. I thought I was special!!....:D
Want me step down General? :)
Want me step down General? :)
lol.... sensitive today, arnt we.... only taking the piss common... ya gota lighten up mate.. :p
Common Sence
05-21-2007, 06:31 PM
lol.... sensitive today, arnt we.... only taking the piss common... ya gota lighten up mate.. :p
hehe, I felt light when I said what I said. Sorry it was mistaken. I was joking. Thats it. I havn't been sensitive about any of you sinse a JS Mac incident.....some time ago. :)
jmm001847'
05-22-2007, 07:32 AM
im lost where did the light go??
Common Sence
05-22-2007, 08:39 AM
im lost where did the light go??
YA, me too. :confused:
Nightflyer
05-22-2007, 10:05 AM
Want me step down General? :)
Congradulations Major! no need to step down it's your first day on the job........:D
Common Sence
05-22-2007, 10:21 AM
Congradulations Major! no need to step down it's your first day on the job........:D
Right on. Thanks man. You noticed my promotion before I did. Took no real effort on my part at all really. ...looking forward to my next promotion. :) I think I'll go have a beer.
Congradulations Major! no need to step down it's your first day on the job........:D
lol..............:D
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