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dmapes202004
03-06-2005, 02:29 AM
I personally think women should be allowed in the military, but i do believe that certain postions are such that women are not biologically designed to fill, such as infantry. If anyone knows where I can find info to prove that there are differences between men and women in combat, basic training, and career longevity, please direct me. It is for a college paper. Thank you.

D. Mapes

Arhmaad
03-21-2005, 05:27 PM
Im sure there is scientific evidence to prove that men are more capable of certain things, however I wouldnt know where to find it.
the PT standards are lower in the run and pushups. Women lack the same upper body strength that men do, women also are less apt to "pull the trigger" when the situation comes to it, and this could possibly pose a problem in certain jobs in the millitary. not to be racist, but there are not many women rambos out there.
Should women be allowed in the millitary: yes
Should their jobs be limited: yes
Women should be able to do the job that they do best, if a woman can lift run and situp just as fast as any other man, heck, let her have a peice of the action on front line.. however, if she cannot perform all duties which might endanger herself or others, a new job should be found.

Zendris
04-17-2005, 11:22 PM
First of all, racism involves people of different races, for example: the differences between black people and white people, not the differences between men and women, prejudices against one of the sexes is called "Sexism".

Secondly, stating that a woman should not serve in infantry positions is ridiculous. Women have no difficulty using long range weapons, such as guns, nor do do they need to be as strong as men are, because strength is relative. Should the authorities allow a weak man to enter battle as an infantryman, yet not a strong woman? By not allowing women in these positions, one assumes that they are a danger to themselves or their comrades by serving in these capacities. If the authorities say women are, I ask them to prove it. I am a man.

Lord Barker
04-20-2005, 04:12 PM
There are several good reasons why women are, and should not be allowed on the front line.

- They are a distraction to the male troops, i'll leave that one to be worked out.

- They are more prone to emotional break down, don't even pull out the word sexism in reply to this, its a biological fact. I don't scream and shout because someone says I can't bear a baby do I?

-They require special attention, which can not be afforded on the front line.


That being said, the jobs that women do carry out are vital, and women often do these jobs very well. I'm all up for equality, but when two things are different, you need to treat then different. Differnt but equal.

Zendris
04-27-2005, 06:26 PM
They pose a distraction to men.... This is not, in itself, a reason women should not, for men are a distraction to women as well. Sexism is the right word for you saying women being prone to emotional breakdowns, they may just have different reasons than men--yet we cannot relate these reasons to the ones "on the front line" because women have not been on the front line to show their inability to handle the emotional stress, while men, on the other hand, have had breakdowns throughout history.

If women require special attention, do they need it from the male soldiers? Are you speaking in reference to menstrual cycles? Women's periods require no more special attention than having to take a ****.

js_mac
04-27-2005, 08:08 PM
For ****'s sake, quit your whining - woman make **** soldiers. Get over it you bloody hippy.
If you wish to reply to me, put it on my own thread or I will ignore you and your undoubtedly half-assed comeback.

rangerzrock
04-28-2005, 11:51 PM
i don't wanna make waves here but if you want my oppinion then here are my reasons why women should NOT be in the military, A: in the military we need soldiers that are rough an tough and that can take a couple bullets in the gut before dropping (srry 4 the exageration but just incase any boi soldiers read this take it as a compliment lol) B: i don't want to be sexist but women are the more delicate sex and enemy might go after that and it could end up in a rape then we'd have pregnant women in the middle of the battlefield, now wun't that be interesting. and we need the best for toughness and aggresivness, (like the strong voice that guyz got u know guyz can shout and yell for dicipline and his troops will listen) so i hope i'm not hurting anyone but i have to speak my mind.

rangerzrock
04-28-2005, 11:52 PM
nice 1 jc mac u'r my hero lol props :cool:

ozzi-solja
04-29-2005, 03:57 AM
do not end up like js_mac, rangerzrock, he's got some of the dumbest, singleminded opinions i've ever heard... except for this one.

i agree, women would make **** soldiers, because of the simple fact that they have naturally lower muscle tone than men, meaning that, even with flak jackets and ****, a bullet will do more damage.

As for the distraction to men, also true, but not in the perverts perspective. The Israeli army had women in Infantry position for about 5 years. it was discovered that when a male soldier was wounded, they put him under cover and called a medic.

However, when a female was wounded, the whole ****ing platoon would back down and look after the chick until she was evacked.

Therefore, a female presence jeapordizes the entire mission excecution because of the way males react to them.

Besides, what the **** are all you guys on about?? Women have been serving in every western-style army for the past 150 years. First they were only nurses, but these days they go into engineer fields, intelligence, combat support and such.

In Austrlalia these women are tested by lower standards than the men, women are generally have less strength than men.

BUT, when the **** hits the fan these women have absolutely no trouble with using a weapon. Any one who says that women that have a problem shooting guns obviously hasent met a women in the military.

rangerhopefull_1162
04-29-2005, 09:13 AM
i thot js mac was leaving....

ne ways, my opinion is that women should have jobs that dont require fighting. let them fly cargo planes or w/e, or communications to free up some of the men who have those positions

fade2black_81
04-30-2005, 11:01 PM
Some women are in semi combat jobs in the services you will see alot of them as MP's. I think most women are fine being a MP vs soldier. Only a very small percent of women want combat jobs, they usually go for the MP positions so i dont think a debate is really needed.

rangerzrock
04-30-2005, 11:22 PM
ok u don't need 2 worry bout me sir. i wont end up like js mac *salute*

ozzi-solja
04-30-2005, 11:48 PM
first of all 'freeing up the men' would not be an objective of having women in the armed services. if a man wants to be a nurse in the army he has as much right as a woman, hell, js_mac probably studies medicine for that very reason.

MP's hey, thats actually of no surprise to me. all the women i know enjoy administering justice and keeping the peace. hell, female coppers scare the **** out of me. Whether or not female MP's are allowed in combat areas or not is a question i'd like to ask, because i would have no idea.

rangerzrock... good boy, you're learning

rangerzrock
05-01-2005, 08:12 PM
ok thnx ozzi. i have another opinion here though that i got off a frend. what reason do women have other than pride to join the army... nothing, and mind you that pride IS the route of all evil. oh well i hope that ends the discussion lol

rangerzrock
05-01-2005, 08:14 PM
a copper wunt be bad though

rangerhopefull_1162
05-02-2005, 08:48 AM
good point ozzi, gues i shood think out it a lil more.....

ozzi-solja
05-03-2005, 03:04 AM
pleasure to be of service to you guys, now if you'll excuse me i have a female Policee Woman after me... help.

rangerzrock
05-07-2005, 11:26 PM
lol :cool:

jajohns4
07-08-2005, 03:13 PM
Can the 13-15 year olds please just stop posting. Looking guys, this forum is meant for people with real issues that are trying to determine if they want to join the Army, with recruitment numbers down why don't we lend some support, I don't care if your male or female, if you can hit an enemy from 300 feet out i'll serve beside you. Now how about we all go out and eat a pizza? ya I know that question is stupid and implausible (that's a big word meaning or closely related to impossible, or a task that seems DIFFICULT to BELIEVE). U 13 year olds should remember it for your ASVABS which you'll fail because your stupid bigots. Anyways, my point is the question like yours is redundant, you can use a dictionary for that word. Ladies join up, do 25 pushups at PT just to prove you can and hit 40 out of 40 targets during BMT Quals. And goodluck to everyone.

royal marine
07-10-2005, 11:30 AM
maybe in your nationalities army all tey have to do is pull ups and pull a trigger but there is way much more than that (over here anyway)
also if you want 13-15 year olds to stop posting cos of info on enlistment.....THEN REPLY TO THE ENLISTMENT FORUM DUMBARSE...this is about men.vs.women and if a 13-15 year old has good points about it and wants to talk let him (like me)...cos kost of us know better than you 15-50 yearl olds....(except lord barker and kurush)

andoman_42
07-11-2005, 01:45 AM
and if a 13-15 year old has good points about it and wants to talk let him (like me)...cos kost of us know better than you 15-50 yearl olds....(except lord barker and kurush)

Bwahahaaaaa.....damn....nearly fell of my chair when I was laughing so hard.....at 13 yrs you donīt really know **** about the world....you THINK you know.....youīve hardly learned to read and write and already voicing opinions about things you have no real experience about. Just finish of yer education and then come back. Then we might actually consider taking your comments seriously......now its just hilarious reading.....

royal marine
07-12-2005, 08:47 AM
you are saying that cos you know **** about the miltary also that was 1 sad post you did just there


bwahahahah.....o..k

andoman_42
07-12-2005, 01:19 PM
After that I consider my point proven.

Veritas odium parit - Truth creates anger

Jobo
07-12-2005, 03:24 PM
Nah - Women cant join infantry at all, u speak of all this stong women **** but thats all bollax, try sending a woman on a 10 mile tab with 60 pounds load on back on riffle, and see how many pass. Im not sexist, but there bodies just aint designed to hack it. Sure u may get the odd she-male that goes through some infantry training just to get attention but that about it, 1 out of a million. I however have no problem with women being in regiments like Logistics, medics or signals.

royal marine
07-13-2005, 11:02 AM
hope you have a nice time in espoo

with a name like that they must all be weird
and i thought finns werethe decent chaps who fought off the giant red army

OBVIUSLY not after his stinking attitude


just cos schools are **** in finland and just about count to ten by year 11 and do colouring in for A-levels does not mean its the same in britian

andoman_42
07-13-2005, 01:21 PM
Hmmm....did I hit a sore spot?

Anyway, read this and see how The Guardian praises the finnish educational system compared to the british:

http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,5500,1042479,00.html

Might be that you could learn something over there......

And yes, it is very nice at the moment here in Espoo.....about 29 degrees Celsius.....and sunny....

royal marine
07-14-2005, 10:28 AM
espoo...sorry just crack up saying it
anyway i might think you will find that the huardian are the newspaper voted worst in britian and were said on the news that they were completely unreliable for information

probably the reporter who wrote it had a son who moved there and now hes hypocritical about it

royal marine
07-14-2005, 10:29 AM
*guardian.................................

andoman_42
07-14-2005, 11:48 AM
Right....now I undestand why you liked the name Espoo so much...sorry, as english is my 3rd language......in swedish itīs called Esbo......does it sound better now?

As far as I know finnish education is held in high regard all around the globe, so even if The Guardian might be a less than top standard paper our education is without doubt good. First of all, its free for everyone(all the way up to university level) and also mandatory(at least 9 yrs) but most people study at least 12 years here.... I myself studied for 18.5 years......


And sorry to all other folks reading this....this really has nothing to do with the topic of the thread but canīt help it......as this young pup needs some tutoring so that he might actually some day become a productive member of society.

Texas
07-14-2005, 11:49 PM
Right....now I undestand why you liked the name Espoo so much...sorry, as english is my 3rd language......in swedish itīs called Esbo......does it sound better now?

As far as I know finnish education is held in high regard all around the globe, so even if The Guardian might be a less than top standard paper our education is without doubt good. First of all, its free for everyone(all the way up to university level) and also mandatory(at least 9 yrs) but most people study at least 12 years here.... I myself studied for 18.5 years......


And sorry to all other folks reading this....this really has nothing to do with the topic of the thread but canīt help it......as this young pup needs some tutoring so that he might actually some day become a productive member of society.

I'm sure the Finnish education system is very good .But I wouldn't base any arguments from the Gaurdian ,Its not taken seriously at all in the UK .Bit of a joke leftist Newspaper actually :D

royal marine
07-15-2005, 12:23 PM
to be a good reliable mamber of society???

serously these people are way to snobby to talk to

andoman_42
07-15-2005, 10:52 PM
Or then you are just too ignorant to listen.

Better to sound a bit snobby than to be ignorant. But then again, at that age what else can you be....hopefully you get into the military a.s.a.p. so they finally teach you some manners and what life really is.

royal marine
07-16-2005, 07:11 AM
what so i state a fat bout most people here being snobby a bit and swear a bit.....so someone needs to teach me a lesson...nah you need to get some friends and stop this snobby language....in case you didnt know in the UK military they beast you if they find out you are snobby

andoman_42
07-16-2005, 01:48 PM
Snobby language???? This is the language they called english that I was taught in school...right after swedish and finnish....donīt you speak it over there also???

Its not my fault you donīt really know your native language at a reasonable level....then you should just study more if you canīt understand my text......I studied english for 13 years and I use it daily at my workplace so I assume I can use it at an understandable level, but please say if I should use phrases with a maximum of 10 words each to make it simple.

royal marine
07-17-2005, 04:16 AM
ive been told im clever enough for royal marines

and yet again this is not a ****ING EXAM so you dont know how good i am at english

andoman_42
07-17-2005, 04:33 AM
Well, from your attitude towards how I use english I do get quite a good picture of how good you are at english.....

female soldier
10-06-2005, 09:49 AM
This is in response to a comment made Zendris about women in the infantry. First question, are you military? Secondly, as a female in the Army I have always felt there was a growing problem with feminist trying to dictate how women should or should not perform in the army. Most of the feminist, by the way, are not in the military. Nor have they ever served. My next question to you is, are you in the infantry or more importantly do you have aspirations to be in the infantry? I would wager my life savings you have no aspirations of being the infantry. In fact you probably just wanted to weigh in on the women vs. men in the army issue. I have served for nine years and can honestly say as a woman, no, we should not be allowed in the infantry. The problems you will face are harsh such as rape or lack of strength mentally or physically to pull the trigger or lack of camaraderie from your fellow soldiers due to resentment. Now with that said I do believe women could have the strength to serve in the infantry but only if it is all female. You have all male units, have all female. And they must have the very same requirements as the males. That means no lowering PT standards because you are female. No exceptions because you are female. If a woman truly feels she can accomplish the goal set fourth for an individual, she would never ask for the standards to be lowered. Quite frankly I am tired of watching females bat their eyes to get a male soldier to do there job because they are weak. Getting pregnant to get out of deployments, that is a shame and only encourages the negative image women in the army have today. If women really want the respect and admiration of their fellow soldiers then it is high time they stood up stop BIT@#ING and do the job America needs done. The only thing feminist are encouraging is segregation not integration. I definately dont need their assistance when they cant even begin to understand what I go through on a daily basis.

trooper123
10-24-2005, 12:01 AM
eiyiyi we gotta rough debate here, i've lost all respect for branches of the military that have women in them unless of couse the women are sitting at a desk. it's mostly women who have destroyed canada's army i'll let you know, but now that they've release quite a few women they are starting to make a comeback, not the fastest comeback but they're making it and all because they released the wimpier women now think what it would be like if they got rid of them all.... i'll leave you with that thought but can you ask for anymore proof i mean women ruined canada's army!

royal marine
10-24-2005, 03:53 AM
i am seriously concerned about how many women are joining the US army

stainedeye
10-24-2005, 05:29 AM
Well said Female soldier! to many people feel that they have a right to do something regardless of capability to do it.

Phisy
10-24-2005, 07:15 AM
Then, RM, I would suggest you won't want to join the British military seeing as we have women deployed in far more roles than the Americans do.

If someone has the capability to do the job - then let them do it.

As for femalesoldiers comment re: rape - this is an old excuse which has no basis - Do you think that males cannont also be raped? Or are you niave enough to think it doesn't happen?

stainedeye
10-24-2005, 07:44 AM
Then, RM, I would suggest you won't want to join the British military seeing as we have women deployed in far more roles than the Americans do.

If someone has the capability to do the job - then let them do it.

As for femalesoldiers comment re: rape - this is an old excuse which has no basis - Do you think that males cannont also be raped? Or are you niave enough to think it doesn't happen?
Before RM replies,nothing wrong with women in Armed Forces as they do a good job in support arms etc,just keep them well away from combat duties as they are a liability.You girl so you not fight,we man we fight!Get it please!!

jmm001847
10-24-2005, 08:14 AM
Join the police force they dont care about your sex as long as you can do your job with no problem. They wont stick you on desk or anything because of your sex :) if ye wanna join the army go ahead but id recomend air force its alot better for women or even navy. And no i am not in the army yet but i read othe peoples texts too and it all ads up to the fact women do belong in the military but not the front lines, (Fact) - Women cant go on the front because they are women and are to emotional and there is nothing that they can do to change it :) not trying to be mean or anything but its a true fact and it wont change unless the president or military generals decide to change it :)

(if any of my info is wrong plz pm me or just reply to me and i will fix it thank you)

Phisy
10-24-2005, 02:45 PM
they are a liability


Your not going to convince me they're a bigger liability than some of the muppets I've seen in uniform - and that goes for us and our illustrious allies.

Women are too emotional!? wtf.... sometimes I wonder what century you lot are living in I really do.. lets slap them about a bit and tie them to the sink when they're not having babies huh?

A generic Women is no less, and no more, capable of handling themselves in combat than any generic Male is. I'm sure there won't be thousands of women try to join the Infantry if it was suddenly opened to them - but there is no reason to stop them if they can acheive the same physical standards - which I KNOW many of them can if they have the mental strength to do it. And plenty of MALES lack that - including a good few on this forum!

stainedeye
10-25-2005, 03:35 AM
Women are too emotional!? wtf.... sometimes I wonder what century you lot are living in I really do.. lets slap them about a bit and tie them to the sink when they're not having babies huh?
Always the same old crap from the shaven chimp'I wanna fight'brigade, war is not a game,its not a place to exercise stupid womens rights,its a serious bloody business.
You may bleat and scream(very emotionally I might add)about your rights to be able to fight but it is abit like giving men the right to have babies,ok you've got the right but you cannot do it anyway.
Try not to be so emotional:)

Tacky
10-25-2005, 06:33 AM
A generic Women is no less, and no more, capable of handling themselves in combat than any generic Male is. I'm sure there won't be thousands of women try to join the Infantry if it was suddenly opened to them - but there is no reason to stop them if they can acheive the same physical standards - which I KNOW many of them can if they have the mental strength to do it. And plenty of MALES lack that - including a good few on this forum!

You completely ignore the physical and physiological differences of males and females with this statement.

You also ignore the logistical nightmare of having a few women incorporated with forward deployed combat arms units.

You ignore the effect it would have on unit cohesiveness.

Could you address the dynamics of small units and the manner in which they would be affected by the introduction of females?

Can a unit benefit by their [females] addition?

Are these units handicapped by their absense?

Phisy
10-25-2005, 06:58 AM
Stained - I'm Male and a serving member of the Army.. get your facts right before you start gobbing off.

I'll reply to Tackys considerably more intelligent post (although I disagree with it in it's entirity ;) ) when I have the time to do it justice.

jmm001847
10-25-2005, 08:02 AM
Ok im really bored with these stupid threads on womens rights and everything. Its all stupid, same questions same answers. Maby if we ever have female president then we could address these issues until that day we will not be able to change this stuff. unless of course hundreds of women who wanted to be in infantry stepped up and called on bush to change it.

royal marine
10-25-2005, 10:01 AM
SAS-no women
SBS-no women
royal marine commandos-no women
every single infantry regiment-no women


engineers,logistics,artillery and the regiments which do not involve infantry combat are allowed women aswell as RAF

whereas all us regiments except spec forces allow women

Phisy
10-25-2005, 11:51 AM
RM - your wrong. So shut up until you actually know your facts.

The American forces prevent a female from being in any unit which may operate alongside (i.e. Co-locate) with a combat unit (i.e. Infantry). (Anyone who actually KNOWS what they're talking about please correct my specific wording which may be a little off).

This is not the case in most European armed forces, including the British Army. For a recent example - look at Op Bracken; the Blackwatch deployment to Dogwood - which had several females, operating in their profession, alongside a deployed combat unit likely to make direct contact with the enemy - this is not allowable in the US forces as I understand the regulations (although I am aware that the DoD's interpretation of the rules are more flexible than Congresses, which has led to female US armed forces personnel being deployed in situations that many have considered to be against the meaning of the legislation.)

Just to make a point - I am not talking out of a position of no experience. I was in an Infantry reserve unit before I joined the regulars; one which is considered to be amongst the most professional and hardest of the British reserve forces units (we excersied regulary with 4 Para, and almost our entire command chain were regular). In this unit we had several females, who, officially, were for "Clerical Duties", Unofficially, they were expected to do EXACTLY the same as their male colleagues - including 6 hour forced marches with in excess of 120lbs of kit at the start of an excercise, field O.P. work, section, platoon and company attacks, etc. And they did, without complaint, without quitting, and in good humour. Anyone who suggests they didn't deserve their regimental cap badge and slides deserves, imo, nothing but my contempt.

Logistical nightmare? I've seen the US forces logistic chain deliver FRESH LOBSTER to a FOB in the middle of the ****tiest area of Iraq, are you going to suggest you can't handle a few tampons? And even if they can't - I'm sure a female who can qualify for infantry can deal with it without getting in a paddy and demanding a face-pack :rolleyes:

Physical and physiological weakness? Plenty of wannabe males exhibit those traits - and Training is there to weed them out. They will weed out the same in anyone else who can't cut it.

Unit Cohesiveness? If that worries you, I am more concerend over the professionalism and discipline of that Unit - a Team mate is a Team mate; If they can't keep their pants on (male or female) during ops and excercises then I suggest a good dose of Correction and education in professional standards is required.

Are women a benefit? Is another Soldier a benefit to a possibly undermanned unit? Filling a slot which may have been left unfilled? A soldier who, in operations in islamic countries such as Iraq is invaluable when it comes to searching, talking, and interacting with female civillians - although this question is, in my view, pretty redundant - If they can reach the standards required of them for their choosen trade then they offer no less benefit than a Male. They are a trained Infantryman - what more value do they need to be?

Handicapped through lack of women? Depends if that leaves you a rifleman short doesn't it? As long as said rifleman can keep up, shoot straight, and keep their heads in a contact who cares what they have between their legs. But as above - a redundant question - they would be a trained Infantryman. Their sex is irrelevent.

I'm no feminist - I'm a professional Soldier and I don't really care about the politics of it. I would prefer a Black islamic lesbian female whos a damn-good soldier in my section than some complaining, unfit, just scraped through training, ill disciplined, oxygen thief who happens to be a male.

Although I've mentioned infantry - this goes for all combat arms.

Pappy
10-25-2005, 12:13 PM
whereas all us regiments except spec forces allow women


Wrong. Women may be in NO combat-arms MOSes. They can only be in support, logistics,... yadda yadda.

royal marine
10-25-2005, 02:11 PM
i reckon youre a women

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-25-2005, 03:55 PM
Im sure there is scientific evidence to prove that men are more capable of certain things, however I wouldnt know where to find it.
the PT standards are lower in the run and pushups. Women lack the same upper body strength that men do, women also are less apt to "pull the trigger" when the situation comes to it, and this could possibly pose a problem in certain jobs in the millitary. not to be racist, but there are not many women rambos out there.
Should women be allowed in the millitary: yes
Should their jobs be limited: yes
Women should be able to do the job that they do best, if a woman can lift run and situp just as fast as any other man, heck, let her have a peice of the action on front line.. however, if she cannot perform all duties which might endanger herself or others, a new job should be found.




BULL****! The standards are now the same only we have it tougher than you men during basic training, so if you have a smart *** comment on that one please give it to me. We all have the same requirment now, and you can say it any different, cause I am leaving for basic and I have had the same requirments as the men did. So open mouth insert foot! :mad:

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-25-2005, 04:01 PM
There are several good reasons why women are, and should not be allowed on the front line.

- They are a distraction to the male troops, i'll leave that one to be worked out.

- They are more prone to emotional break down, don't even pull out the word sexism in reply to this, its a biological fact. I don't scream and shout because someone says I can't bear a baby do I?

-They require special attention, which can not be afforded on the front line.


That being said, the jobs that women do carry out are vital, and women often do these jobs very well. I'm all up for equality, but when two things are different, you need to treat then different. Differnt but equal.


How do we distract males from doing their jobs? You distract yourselves, and there is no doubt about that. We can do just as good a job as the men, maybe even better, cause if we can handle 23 hours of labor and push out a 7 lbs 13 oz child, then we can handle the front line better than you men can. I'd like to see you carry a child for 9 months and then go through 23 hours of labor and push out a 7 lbs 13 oz child, exactly you can't. So don't say we can't handle the front line and that we are distraction, when you couldn't even handle take the pain of carrying and having a child. SO I CALL BULL****! :mad:

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-25-2005, 04:08 PM
For ****'s sake, quit your whining - woman make **** soldiers. Get over it you bloody hippy.
If you wish to reply to me, put it on my own thread or I will ignore you and your undoubtedly half-assed comeback.


YOU know what you make a **** soldier! For one I have busted and brought down serval guys bigger and tougher than me, and I am a woman! I got through basic better than a man did, so go to hell. I have fought the front line because I am a 31B-002 (MP for those of you not familiar) and I never once cried or got frightened....SO BULL****!
I am better than you and better than most, and that's what keeps me alinve and well.
I am not a **** soldier because I can run 5 minutes and 37 seconds in a mile and I can do 80 or more push-ups and sit-ups in less than 2 minutes, CAN YOU DO THAT ?
So don't open your mouth if you can't back it up! YOU NEED TO OPEN MOUTH INSERT FOOT!
OH by the way I am strictly dickly, don't even think about calling me a DIKE! :mad:

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-25-2005, 04:17 PM
do not end up like js_mac, rangerzrock, he's got some of the dumbest, singleminded opinions i've ever heard... except for this one.

i agree, women would make **** soldiers, because of the simple fact that they have naturally lower muscle tone than men, meaning that, even with flak jackets and ****, a bullet will do more damage.

As for the distraction to men, also true, but not in the perverts perspective. The Israeli army had women in Infantry position for about 5 years. it was discovered that when a male soldier was wounded, they put him under cover and called a medic.

However, when a female was wounded, the whole ****ing platoon would back down and look after the chick until she was evacked.

Therefore, a female presence jeapordizes the entire mission excecution because of the way males react to them.

Besides, what the **** are all you guys on about?? Women have been serving in every western-style army for the past 150 years. First they were only nurses, but these days they go into engineer fields, intelligence, combat support and such.





So sit on that and twist you *******!
In Austrlalia these women are tested by lower standards than the men, women are generally have less strength than men.

BUT, when the **** hits the fan these women have absolutely no trouble with using a weapon. Any one who says that women that have a problem shooting guns obviously hasent met a women in the military.

**** YOU SEXIST PEOPLE.....Women make better soldiers cause we take the pain, recieve the critism, and give it right back to you. I have seen and been through alot worse than many of you have, so go screw yourselves. I am tough and aggressive, can't you tell?
If you can't then take another look! I have made it and I am still making it, and yet doing better then most of you men out there, so give one good reason why you think a man is better than a woman! Hey at least we have gold between our legs, what do you have?
EXACTLY! OH by the way I am not a *****....cause A ***** Has 4 Legs, I got 2, A ***** Says Ruff Ruff, I Say **** YOU!
So sit on that and twist you *******!
Now tell me women aren't tough and aggressive, cause you have just met one....HELLO YOU SEXIST SON OF A BITCHES! :mad:

trooper123
10-25-2005, 05:29 PM
shut the hell up private! gimme proof of you being able to do better than any man for the military oh **** you were better than one big man, you've taken down bigger men hmmm doesn't prove anything to me wether you scratch and bite a few guys to bring them down or not like geez you can't **** that ****! quit thinkin u'r so tough women can't take the pain half as well as men if they could there'd actually be a few female rangers or royal marines or SEALS, but guess what there isn't you know why? because you bitches can't take the pain you think you can but you can't! if u'r wondering how you bitches distract men, what's the easiest way to seduce a man, hmm women! what to grown up men like most, hmm women and sex so you do the math if women are going up there then what's gonna happen??? just because you can match the standards doesn't mean the standards are right! i mean in Canada they lowered the standards and a bunch of 5ft high women joined and the military was lost, now they are starting to raise the standards again so alot of women are dropping out and guess what?!? we're getting better you *****. there are a bunch of wimpy chix in the us marines cause they lowered the standards, it should just be a matter of time now before the marines drop out of the world of real men. the regular army is also allowing women with low standards to be met just like the marines, i've lost all respect for any units of any military that'll allow wimpy little bitches into them, if i join when i'm older it'll be either in the green berets, seals or the rangers anything else is out of the question

p.s i would join a british one but it's cheaper to go u.s you know how it is

trooper123
10-25-2005, 05:33 PM
**** this is fun to reply to, we wouldn't be critizising you by the way if you'd just let the army alone, oh by the way you *****-licker, if gold between the legs means the sick thing that i think it means then **** you at least we have dick's instead of little ****s you 2-legged *****

trooper123
10-25-2005, 05:35 PM
BULL****! The standards are now the same only we have it tougher than you men during basic training, so if you have a smart *** comment on that one please give it to me. We all have the same requirment now, and you can say it any different, cause I am leaving for basic and I have had the same requirments as the men did. So open mouth insert foot! :mad:


ya sure it's tougher for YOU for us, it's a piece of cake with the exception of maybe a couple ***'s once every few years

trooper123
10-25-2005, 05:44 PM
who here has watched the lord of the rings what happens to eowyn during that big battle in the third one, hmm she runs down to her dying father and starts crying her head of if that's not emotional i don't know what is to use my own words, combat is hell you women don't have any idea what it's like, i know i don't but i know people who do and i will in a few years you women just want to join to be seen and cause you're too fricken stubborn, what's the point of joining the army if you don't fight? you just want to be seen nothing more nothing less

Pappy
10-25-2005, 06:51 PM
shut the hell up private!


No, you shut the hell up. She's a PFC, not a private for one thing. And she may be just a PFC, but you're NOTHING yet. You're lower than a cadet. Never tell a BTDT to shut up unless you're one yourself.

I'm not taking sides on the issue at hand. You just needed to be put right.

trooper123
10-25-2005, 11:40 PM
heyheyhey, you wanna know why i'm not in there?? cause i'm not of the right age yet i would if i could but i can't so i'll wait, you ***** and yes ***** female dogs have four legs but if you count our hands then we have four two so shut up you ***** i'm not the one who needs to be put right you guys need to be put right your femenist views are all absolutely stupid

Phisy
10-26-2005, 01:39 AM
You know.. I really wonder why I bothered replying with an intelligent response which is so obviously wasted on the 80% of the forum who are complete idiots. I not bitching about people disagreeing - just the muppets who have failed to switch their brains on and add anything meaningful to the discussion.

royal marine
10-26-2005, 04:27 AM
then leave phisy

i think that this women has been watching too much kill bill:D

shes probably going to think that she can take some shotgun shells in her chest now lol

Tacky
10-26-2005, 06:45 AM
I see a loud mouthed PFC, without a clue as to what the real military is about. A ton of wannabes without a clue on much of anything. And a few who, while intelligent, refuse to see the facts as they are.

This is a never ending battle between the sexes, but luckily, despite the screaming feminists...the US military has dodged the debacle that would be women in combat arms positions.

Until women as a whole are able to change their physiology, they will be the physically weaker sex. That is reality. Are there some women that could do the job? Certainly, there is always an exception to the rule. Is it worth changing the logistical nightmare that is already in place to supply forward deployed combat units? No. Is it worth causing more tension in already tension filled units? No.

The military is not a place for social experimentation. We are not harmed by having all males in combat arms, and there would be no huge gain to adding a few females into those MOSes.

As it stands now, every PT standard for the US military is different between males and females, this is for a reason.

I have served my entire career in combat arms, my opinions stem not only from my own personal experiences, but also from facts. I do believe that women serve their country honourably, and I believe they have a place in the military...I believe their contributions are just as important as any males, combat arms or not. As of now, females are in highly important roles within the US military...they provide intelligence to SOF units deep within enemy territory. There are female pilots within the USAF whom have risked all to get a CSAR bird into a hostile AO to evacuate wounded infantrymen. Their courage, intelligence and loyalty are not at question, nor should they be.

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-26-2005, 10:21 AM
No, you shut the hell up. She's a PFC, not a private for one thing. And she may be just a PFC, but you're NOTHING yet. You're lower than a cadet. Never tell a BTDT to shut up unless you're one yourself.

I'm not taking sides on the issue at hand. You just needed to be put right.


Thank you sir! That's more than I could have ever said in words to these loud mouth little dick sons of bitches. Oh and by the way just made SPC today.....cause I have motivation unlike these **** bags. I would just like to see them come across me on a bad day LOL.....even a good one, cause they would be so surpised as to see a female like me. Oh and you can tell that son of ***** who called me a *****, that yes aggree I am a ***** and I am damn proud of it ...LMAO! I am glad to see he has some kind of education at least, cause you know we don't need idots serving our country...LOL!;)

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-26-2005, 10:23 AM
then leave phisy

i think that this women has been watching too much kill bill:D

shes probably going to think that she can take some shotgun shells in her chest now lol



Hey if your name is Bill, then I'd watch out if I were you buddy! :D

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-26-2005, 10:25 AM
heyheyhey, you wanna know why i'm not in there?? cause i'm not of the right age yet i would if i could but i can't so i'll wait, you ***** and yes ***** female dogs have four legs but if you count our hands then we have four two so shut up you ***** i'm not the one who needs to be put right you guys need to be put right your femenist views are all absolutely stupid



GOODY GOODY.....you have an education about animals, now what about knowlege and moral respect you dick. Do you have education in respect for those who are high ranking than you?
Do you have Knowlege in females of today? NO didn't think so!
SO GO BACK TO SCHOOL YOU IDOT!:D

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-26-2005, 10:29 AM
Your not going to convince me they're a bigger liability than some of the muppets I've seen in uniform - and that goes for us and our illustrious allies.

Women are too emotional!? wtf.... sometimes I wonder what century you lot are living in I really do.. lets slap them about a bit and tie them to the sink when they're not having babies huh?

A generic Women is no less, and no more, capable of handling themselves in combat than any generic Male is. I'm sure there won't be thousands of women try to join the Infantry if it was suddenly opened to them - but there is no reason to stop them if they can acheive the same physical standards - which I KNOW many of them can if they have the mental strength to do it. And plenty of MALES lack that - including a good few on this forum!


EMOTIONAL let me tell you about EMOTIONAL FEMALES.....piss me off and I will tie you up to a bed with duct tape and gag your ***, then I will chop off your dick and force feed it to you, and I bet you'll be EMOTIONAL after that you dickless bastered!:mad:

royal marine
10-26-2005, 10:31 AM
PFC
the people argueing with you now are not in the military but i do bt that they will tower over you as soon as their career starts

royal marine
10-26-2005, 10:32 AM
as for flooring those men you talked about
men dont hurt girls;)

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-26-2005, 10:35 AM
**** this is fun to reply to, we wouldn't be critizising you by the way if you'd just let the army alone, oh by the way you *****-licker, if gold between the legs means the sick thing that i think it means then **** you at least we have dick's instead of little ****s you 2-legged *****



**** YOU! If you saw me your jaw would drop and you'd wanna get between my legs....So go screw yourself up the ***! I am very sexy and very hot and I don't say that unless I have to, and that counts telling you *******. How about you let me send a picture of me to you and then you can debate on whether I am a ***** licker or not?
But maybe your to stupid to find out, but I am not dumb enough to throw myself out there for a jackass like yourself, so sit on that and twist!:rolleyes:

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-26-2005, 12:32 PM
PFC
the people argueing with you now are not in the military but i do bt that they will tower over you as soon as their career starts



You know you are so full of yourself. For one: I give up a hell of a fight, cause I won't let anyone not even the sexist sons of bitches in here bring me down. Two: I have towered over the mens heads, and yet I have recieved a great deal of knowlege from being a female in the Army. Three: I was raised by my father and raised with my two brothers, who in which toughened me up and made aggressive, as I am today. Four: Women could do a better job in the infantry than men could because we are evil, and also we brought you into this world and we can take you out of it. Five: In my unit they call me Laraina Bobbit the second, so you might want to re-think your opinions....and that goes for all of you. ;)

royal marine
10-26-2005, 01:56 PM
you call me full of myself
look at you
im the most aggressive toughest ***** in the US and im also the sexiest one and boys just wanna shag me:rolleyes:

trooper123
10-27-2005, 11:42 PM
uhh ya i'd wanna get between your legs i guess whatever you say xexy lol u'r so misled that it's hilarious

trooper123
10-27-2005, 11:50 PM
PFC
the people argueing with you now are not in the military but i do bt that they will tower over you as soon as their career starts


couldn't have put it better myself royal marine. as for pfc i don't care about your rank cause i know you don't deserve it! back then they used to give promotions to a soldier if they did something good, if i were a commanding officer i wouldn't give a promotion to anyone with your type of attitude. as for the small dicks comment how do you know did you look??:eek: naughty girl you should have become a porn start instead

jmm001847
10-28-2005, 08:09 AM
Sadd Sadd little people why dont ye come down to earth and ask yerself what do i look like 2guys jumping a girl in argument wow arent I cool im such an arse lol Hey pfc why dont ye post a pic of yerself here? LOL just kiddin 8P


(This reply wasnt meant to hurt anyones feelings or anything it was only to try to stop an arguement and for a few jokes) :D

jmm001847
10-28-2005, 08:13 AM
couldn't have put it better myself royal marine. as for pfc i don't care about your rank cause i know you don't deserve it! back then they used to give promotions to a soldier if they did something good, if i were a commanding officer i wouldn't give a promotion to anyone with your type of attitude. as for the small dicks comment how do you know did you look??:eek: naughty girl you should have become a porn start instead

As for you Trooper i dont much care for your attitude but anyway what is a porn start?? start what the hell is porn start lolol you are an idiot.

And as your attitude stands I doubt you will get anywhere near commanding officer 8P

trooper123
10-28-2005, 03:30 PM
called a typo, do you actually know anything about debating or about the army? sheesh there are bound to be a few attitudes that build up in a debate i'm releasing all the bad attitude in me to win this one, and i leave all my good attitude for other stuff read my posts in army or marines or best medal of honor VC an stuff u'r just wierd pfc is just stupid too, and if you think there are 2 guys beating up on one girl look back jackass she started it and she continues trying to be stupid in it, and she's not alone jackass why don't you read stuff for once

trooper123
10-28-2005, 03:34 PM
**** YOU! If you saw me your jaw would drop and you'd wanna get between my legs....So go screw yourself up the ***! I am very sexy and very hot and I don't say that unless I have to, and that counts telling you *******. How about you let me send a picture of me to you and then you can debate on whether I am a ***** licker or not?
But maybe your to stupid to find out, but I am not dumb enough to throw myself out there for a jackass like yourself, so sit on that and twist!

pathetic we don't need any sexy bitches in the army stupid, if u'r so sexy then get the hell outta there

stainedeye
10-29-2005, 03:01 AM
PFC
the people argueing with you now are not in the military but i do bt that they will tower over you as soon as their career starts
Stop commenting on subjects you know fcuk all about you stupid little boy,your not even old enough to serve so why you think you have the knowledge to pass comment on others who have/are beats me.You say your 'going' to join the RMs just to impress little boy.

'*********** YOU ARE JUST A WALT'
Cannot use your nickname as its an insult to the RMs so why don't you change it to w**ker instead.Have a nice weekend!

royal marine
10-29-2005, 06:32 AM
look japseye

what are you doing when youre older, i bet youre gonna join the delta force and be he best of the bst because i rule
you want an excuse to start an argument, and because i said that people would tower over her in promotion you want to get all stressy

''have a nice weekend''
playing BF2 all ****ing weekend

trooper123
10-29-2005, 05:07 PM
so true so very true, people do learn quite i bit b4 they go in or else they wouldn't stand a chance, i'm learning as much as i can and taking whatever is available to me and learning from it. have a nice weekend! i'm going airsofting this weekend :D

arctcfightr
10-29-2005, 07:08 PM
i didnt read every1s post but i just gatta say this women in army yes there are females in military now....so wtf but women in comabative rolls no!!!! they get in the way they make men think of sex even if there ugly u spend a year in iraq ugly chicks get hot fast that makes u not think strait = death or a **** up that can lead to a deadly mistake pluse women can be raped im sure us guys can be to but most women pow's are raped and most male pow's are not and that is is the worst thing im guessing that can happen to a women that is why they shouldnt be in combatave roles among other reasons

arctcfightr
10-29-2005, 07:11 PM
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listen PRIVATE you need to chill out and learn some manners asa soldier and another thing stop talkin so much **** abotu how hot u are no1 gives a **** being hot doesnt make u a good soldier so shut up and stop being so ****in sexist twords men

royal marine
10-30-2005, 05:12 AM
about the rape thing
a guy from an SAS patrol was caught in the 1st gulf war and he was raped by the iraqi soldiers!, he half fought back though

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-31-2005, 10:53 AM
you call me full of myself
look at you
im the most aggressive toughest ***** in the US and im also the sexiest one and boys just wanna shag me:rolleyes:


That's sad cause the way I hear all Marine women are the most nasty bitches on earth and Army women are drop dead sexy, so go suck on a nasty crusty **** like your nasy crusty *****.:D

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-31-2005, 10:55 AM
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listen PRIVATE you need to chill out and learn some manners asa soldier and another thing stop talkin so much **** abotu how hot u are no1 gives a **** being hot doesnt make u a good soldier so shut up and stop being so ****in sexist twords men



OH **** YOU....your just mad cause I can bragg about being sexy and very strong, and yet quite intelligent to go with it, so go to bloody hell.:eek:

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-31-2005, 10:57 AM
i didnt read every1s post but i just gatta say this women in army yes there are females in military now....so wtf but women in comabative rolls no!!!! they get in the way they make men think of sex even if there ugly u spend a year in iraq ugly chicks get hot fast that makes u not think strait = death or a **** up that can lead to a deadly mistake pluse women can be raped im sure us guys can be to but most women pow's are raped and most male pow's are not and that is is the worst thing im guessing that can happen to a women that is why they shouldnt be in combatave roles among other reasons


LEARN TO SPELL OR GO BACK TO SCHOOL....ROLES not ROLLS! ANd we are better in combat than men! SO GO TO BLOODY HELL!:eek:

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-31-2005, 10:58 AM
Stop commenting on subjects you know fcuk all about you stupid little boy,your not even old enough to serve so why you think you have the knowledge to pass comment on others who have/are beats me.You say your 'going' to join the RMs just to impress little boy.

'*********** YOU ARE JUST A WALT'
Cannot use your nickname as its an insult to the RMs so why don't you change it to w**ker instead.Have a nice weekend!



GET IT STRAIGHT *****......GIRL NOT BOY......it's bad you can't even tell.....well maybe that's because you probably got a dick between your legs. you he she ***** !:eek:

PFC_PrivateFirstClass
10-31-2005, 11:13 AM
pathetic we don't need any sexy bitches in the army stupid, if u'r so sexy then get the hell outta there



NO you get the HELL OUT! I have given myself to GOD and COUNTRY, what have you done?
A real soldier is the one who believes she is better than most, but yet gives others the benfit of the doubt. So tell me.....do you do that? No you don't.....you rag female about how they are not meant for combat, but yet how would you know? I have been overseas and I have been in combat and I have seen first hand as to what it can do to people, and I know that as a woman I had no distraction and gave none either. I am strong and aggressive, my mentality is built to last and last it will. I have seen men come back more screwed than before they left to go overseas into combat, and yet I came back just fine. I didn't have posttramtic stress syndrome and yet the men did....and I saw just as much as they did, as well as heads being ripped from bodies and people with no arms and legs, as well as big *** holes in their abdomens, yet it didn't screw me up. So how can you suggest that a woman are not meant for combat. We are just as successful as the men are, and we get by better than you have. I know I am one of them. So Please don't tell me a women can't handle combat when I have seen, dealt, and fought it first hand. Now tell me I need to get out, tell me I am not meant for it, tell me I have not risked my life, tell me that I have not stood by my comrades, and please tell me that I am a *****, cause then I will have to agree with you.
I am an American Soldier.
I am a WARRIOR.
I will DEFEND and HONOR my COUNTRY.
I will Stand by MY COMRADES and I will not LEAVE them BEHIND.
Cause I am an AMERICAN SOLDIER.'



Now tell me what I am meant for and what I am not meant for!


Sign the American Soldier,
PFC Simpson:mad:

Morten
10-31-2005, 11:24 AM
I am strong and aggressive, my mentality is built to last and last it will. I have seen men come back more screwed than before they left to go overseas into combat, and yet I came back just fine. I didn't have posttramtic stress syndrome and yet the men did....

ohh stfu... really... using Post Traumatic Stress Syndrom as a reason for being weak is ****ing retarded! u just ***** slapped half the military with that line!

show some respect!

arctcfightr
10-31-2005, 12:57 PM
NO you get the HELL OUT! I have given myself to GOD and COUNTRY, what have you done?
A real soldier is the one who believes she is better than most, but yet gives others the benfit of the doubt. So tell me.....do you do that? No you don't.....you rag female about how they are not meant for combat, but yet how would you know? I have been overseas and I have been in combat and I have seen first hand as to what it can do to people, and I know that as a woman I had no distraction and gave none either. I am strong and aggressive, my mentality is built to last and last it will. I have seen men come back more screwed than before they left to go overseas into combat, and yet I came back just fine. I didn't have posttramtic stress syndrome and yet the men did....and I saw just as much as they did, as well as heads being ripped from bodies and people with no arms and legs, as well as big *** holes in their abdomens, yet it didn't screw me up. So how can you suggest that a woman are not meant for combat. We are just as successful as the men are, and we get by better than you have. I know I am one of them. So Please don't tell me a women can't handle combat when I have seen, dealt, and fought it first hand. Now tell me I need to get out, tell me I am not meant for it, tell me I have not risked my life, tell me that I have not stood by my comrades, and please tell me that I am a *****, cause then I will have to agree with you.
I am an American Soldier.
I am a WARRIOR.
I will DEFEND and HONOR my COUNTRY.
I will Stand by MY COMRADES and I will not LEAVE them BEHIND.
Cause I am an AMERICAN SOLDIER.'



Now tell me what I am meant for and what I am not meant for!


Sign the American Soldier,
PFC Simpson:mad:






WHAT THE **** LISTEN TO YOUR SELF JUST SAYING WHAT YOU SAID YOU ARE NOT BEING A ****ING SOLDIER YOUR BEING A BITCHER!!! and as for ptsd yes i have yes im a male and im sorry WHAT THE **** WAS YOUR MOS?? as for me i was an enigneer tha means mass graves,infantry,blowing **** up, working with dead soldiers in convoys that got blown up and i had to recover and so on and so on i doubt you ever ever did half the **** i did and im not on here bitching about it im just saying it to u keep ur ****ing mouth shut and yes u do have ptsd u probly dont know it yet it takes years sometimes to set it one day when ur older u will relize it but other than that ur justa ****ing private who thinks she knows it all

arctcfightr
10-31-2005, 01:05 PM
OH **** YOU....your just mad cause I can bragg about being sexy and very strong, and yet quite intelligent to go with it, so go to bloody hell.:eek:


omfg....listen PRIVATE cuz u arnt no1 cares if you are sexy or strong and as for intelligent yes you might be but right now on thsi forum you are being a moron and yes i can bragg about being strong you know why cuz ima ****ing man but i dont cuz i dont have to unlick you im confident abotu my self all you are showing is how much of a kid you can be when you get threatend and backed into a cornor you need to look at what ppl are typing and realize they dont give a **** if you are a female its about being a ****ing soldier and your not acting liek one and you are makin the army look like jackass's because of you on this forum if i was stationed where you were and knew your chain of command i would love to talk to them about your posts on here and see how fake they are

arctcfightr
10-31-2005, 01:07 PM
one more thing private dont **** with me i was in iraq for 18 months i know it all about over there so try to say some **** i havent seen czu i have seen 10 times as you im dont trying to bragg im just saying you act liek you have seen it all when you havent so go get off the computer do ur "sexy" hair and go out and relaxe

Tacky
10-31-2005, 02:08 PM
If you two are finished measuring your dicks, how about we just make some calls to your CO and see how he feels about it?

I'm sure there is an SFC out there needing to get into a certain PFCs ***.

Morten
10-31-2005, 02:47 PM
it surprises me that u're acting like kids!

is an adult conversation too much to ask for?

as for the topic: Men got benefits and Women got benefits... just be proud that everyone wanna serve their country!

royal marine
10-31-2005, 03:41 PM
shut up this entertaining

as for her seeing combat

who were you fighting
the roman imperialists?

Texas
10-31-2005, 04:09 PM
OH **** YOU....your just mad cause I can bragg about being sexy and very strong, and yet quite intelligent to go with it, so go to bloody hell.
Has nobody noticed something in this sentence . She claims to be American .Americans to my knowledge do no use the phrase Bloody hell .The Brits do and the Aussies do !
Its a wind up guys !

arctcfightr
10-31-2005, 07:18 PM
nice eye texas yea i saw that to but i just went with what was on my mind

js_mac
10-31-2005, 08:21 PM
This dyke is ****ing me off now.
You think you're sexy? You have the most disgusting personality I have ever come across in a female. That is not sexy: you are not sexy. You claim you're hot as well as intelligent? If you're as accurate in your perception of your looks as your in your perception of your intellect then you must have a face like a slapped arse. And army women have a reputation for being real hot, don't they? Not big fat, butch lesbians like you.
You claim that women are better soldiers than men. You couldn't be more wrong. Changing subject for a bit, I also find it midly offensive that you diss men who've been scarred by war, saying you're real tough that you haven't, when you haven't even seen real combat (you're a WOMAN). That guy who said you just *****-slapped the whole military with that comment is right. You have no idea what real war is, woman.

Anyway, I already discussed this a while back, but the theory of evolution makes it physically impossible for women to be good soldiers. Throughout prehistory all the soldier-related tasks such as fighting in war, defending their land, hunting etc were carried out by men. This means that men evolved minds that are better suited to these tasks. The fact that men were out doing these tasks meant that human contact for them was minimal compared to women, which is why men haven't evolved the same emotional weakness as women. What this means is that women are BIOLOGICALLY not built for war in every sense - their tactical minds, their strength/stamina and their emotions. You can take the biggest, butchest lesbian skank and put her into iraq as a soldier and she'll fail miserably - the soldiering genes are ABSENT in women, as evolution had no need to give them those genes. Deny it all you want, but science is fact. That is the reason women aren't soldiers.

js_mac
10-31-2005, 08:26 PM
Mmm, not sure about that texas. She said "go to bloody hell". I've heard americans say that. If you say "bloody hell, you're a prick texas" then that's aussie/uk.

Texas
11-01-2005, 10:57 AM
Mmm, not sure about that texas. She said "go to bloody hell". I've heard americans say that. If you say "bloody hell, you're a prick texas" then that's aussie/uk.I have never heard an American ever use this term . Theres enough Americans on here to disagree with me. Every time I say Bloody hell in America ,I get bemused smiles,people say what does that mean ? Even my wife doesn't use it . I would have thought it would have rubbed off on her by now but it hasn't .

Spike
11-01-2005, 05:02 PM
Mmm, not sure about that texas. She said "go to bloody hell". I've heard americans say that. If you say "bloody hell, you're a prick texas" then that's aussie/uk.
No you haven't dick head . You are so full of **** JS . You are just pissed off because you didn't realise it was a wind up . Who ever it is certainly made you look like a complete fool . :rolleyes:

js_mac
11-01-2005, 06:16 PM
No you haven't dick head . You are so full of **** JS . You are just pissed off because you didn't realise it was a wind up . Who ever it is certainly made you look like a complete fool . :rolleyes:

Alriiiiight..... I haven't what??? You are insane, whoever you are.... Where the hell did that outburst come from, you weirdo? If you weren't such a mongo you'd understand the reasoning behind me posting my reply to PFC after reading texas' comment.
I'm guessing that you're a woman/lefty who wasn't smart enough to reply to my original post so thought you'd have a go at that piss-small little detail so you felt better about being so stupid.

Morten
11-02-2005, 02:08 AM
Alriiiiight..... I haven't what??? You are insane, whoever you are.... Where the hell did that outburst come from, you weirdo? If you weren't such a mongo you'd understand the reasoning behind me posting my reply to PFC after reading texas' comment.
I'm guessing that you're a woman/lefty who wasn't smart enough to reply to my original post so thought you'd have a go at that piss-small little detail so you felt better about being so stupid.

/agreed

hes post was pointless and frankly(sp?), it was stupid. but it might have been sarcasm...

jmiester96
11-02-2005, 09:52 AM
jc mac. you are the man. i bow down :cool:

Texas
11-02-2005, 12:03 PM
Alriiiiight..... I haven't what??? You are insane, whoever you are.... Where the hell did that outburst come from, you weirdo? If you weren't such a mongo you'd understand the reasoning behind me posting my reply to PFC after reading texas' comment.
I'm guessing that you're a woman/lefty who wasn't smart enough to reply to my original post so thought you'd have a go at that piss-small little detail so you felt better about being so stupid.
Your funny ....lol Everbody is a Mongo lefty weirdo that doesn't agree with you . Oh boy your funny !:D

stainedeye
11-03-2005, 03:39 AM
shut up this entertaining

as for her seeing combat

who were you fighting
the roman imperialists?
Do enlighten us of your military experience/combat after such a putdown.:)

royal marine
11-04-2005, 04:11 PM
sure thing japseye

i also bow down to js mac, whenever you get a mart arse american twat, nearly all of em, js mac rips em apart

ozzi-solja
11-04-2005, 11:42 PM
oh great, i've come from a muslim bashing in the political forums to a battle of the sexes in the military discussions forum. fan ****ing tastic.

who the hell is this PFC woman. ive back tracked a few pages on this thread and i have a question for (i gather) HER:

do you ever just shut the **** up??
stop your man bashing, you're serving yourself no justice.

as for everyone else, please continue, this is more entertaining than anything else i've read on the politics crap in the last month.

by the way Rmarine, what IS your military experience, i believe you failed to cover that in your response.

righto, im gonna leave before i'm man bashed myself:eek:

stainedeye
11-05-2005, 04:21 AM
We are still waiting Royal Walt Marine! you must have plenty to shoot your mouth off the way you do to those who have/are serving in an Armed Force.Come on do not be shy:o
Or are you just a WALT:eek: :eek:

royal marine
11-09-2005, 02:57 PM
sorry i dont want to give too much information out japseye
the next thing i know you'll be probably dumping me in the back of them van to rape me up the bum you gay tosser:rolleyes:

stainedeye
11-10-2005, 05:26 AM
sorry i dont want to give too much information out japseye
the next thing i know you'll be probably dumping me in the back of them van to rape me up the bum you gay tosser:rolleyes:
just another sad walt who likes to make people think he is a rm:o :o end of mission on you boy go bother someone else.

royal marine
11-10-2005, 03:03 PM
im a royal marine wannabe, pedo

ozzi-solja
11-10-2005, 08:34 PM
im a royal marine wannabe, pedo

yup, wannabe, you walked right into that one son. lets not get all broken hearted though. the argument still continues, whether or not you wish to call each other gays and ****.

where in the hell did that aggrivated chick go? im still waiting for my man bashing

stainedeye
11-12-2005, 02:18 AM
What is the perception of women in the Aussie armed forces ozzi?

Texas
11-12-2005, 03:40 AM
yup, wannabe, you walked right into that one son. lets not get all broken hearted though. the argument still continues, whether or not you wish to call each other gays and ****.

where in the hell did that aggrivated chick go? im still waiting for my man bashing
Disappeared when I blew his or her cover !;)

ozzi-solja
11-12-2005, 04:08 AM
HIS or her cover? wow, i thought i smelled a dyke.

What is the perception of women in the Aussie armed forces ozzi?

quite simple actually, but unfortunately my bandwidth is really low at the moment (i share one 56k landline connection with two other PC's... and both of those dicks are playing miniclip). hopefully tomorrow i can get you an exert from the Australian Army careers page. i states what roles are restricted from women serving (combat roles). the general view is that, stiff, women simply cant serve in combat. all reasons behind this are probably based on pre-1980's women are weaker stereotypes.

unfortuantely they arent sterotypes. every high school Phys Ed student KNOWS that women GENERALLY have lower muscle tone and overall body strength than men, as well as emotional instability when under extreme pressure, and the way males react to womens emotions.

thats all i can bull**** about for now, i'd better sign off before my PC blows up completely... ****ing miniclip i tell ya what

ozzi-solja
11-12-2005, 07:23 PM
ahh, miniclip is gone now, so here it is:

<H3>Gender Restriction

Consistent with an exemption provided for Defence under the Commonwealth Anti-Discrimination Act, women may not be employed in combat roles.

The Direct Combat exclusion which applies to all Armour, Artillery, Infantry and Combat Engineer units and positions, precludes women from being employed in this job type. Combat Engineers are defined as those employed in Combat Engineer Regiments and does not include Construction Units, Engineer Design Units and Facilities Management Units, Geomatic Engineers and Illustrators.
</H3>

Mustaffa Kemal
11-12-2005, 07:30 PM
Woman has no place in battle is very silly to girl in battle . In Pakistani Army ,No woman ever in battle . She stay at home and cook good meal for husband :)

ozzi-solja
11-12-2005, 07:36 PM
lol, you gonna get MAN BASHED for that one:D . where you from Kernal Mustard?

Mustaffa Kemal
11-12-2005, 07:38 PM
lol, you gonna get MAN BASHED for that one:D . where you from Kernal Mustard?
North Kashmir .famos football player ozzie

Mustaffa Kemal
11-12-2005, 07:41 PM
Evrybody must now there place . Woman place is home cooking meal and washing clothe

S.A.S.Warrior
11-12-2005, 07:43 PM
Ahmen!

its not all a mockery though,i do know a girl who became the first female to pass the AS90 course for the Royal Artillery.
She can shove a 43kg shell up the breech of a self propelled gun better than some men can.
I bet she's a great sha.........

ozzi-solja
11-12-2005, 07:52 PM
..umm cook! yeah, thats it. i bet she's a great cook!

North Kasmir hey, used to be a bit of a hot spot last i heard. so, you're a famous footballer? well, i dont follow football, FIFA anyway. im more into Australian Rules Football. a little more rough than 'soccer'.

SASW, i heard of that chick. Australia's got one of their own too. some lady Petty Officer from the RANavy decided to take on the SAS Barrier Entry test. She passed with flying colours, carting a 55kg barrel around with a 70kg pack on her back. apparently she got all Greens and Yellows in the mark book, no reds at all.

but of course, she couldnt enter the SAS, because she was a women. and now she's an advocate AGAINST allowing women in combat roles. go figure?

Mustaffa Kemal
11-12-2005, 08:10 PM
..umm cook! yeah, thats it. i bet she's a great cook!

North Kasmir hey, used to be a bit of a hot spot last i heard. so, you're a famous footballer? well, i dont follow football, FIFA anyway. im more into Australian Rules Football. a little more rough than 'soccer'.

SASW, i heard of that chick. Australia's got one of their own too. some lady Petty Officer from the RANavy decided to take on the SAS Barrier Entry test. She passed with flying colours, carting a 55kg barrel around with a 70kg pack on her back. apparently she got all Greens and Yellows in the mark book, no reds at all.

but of course, she couldnt enter the SAS, because she was a women. and now she's an advocate AGAINST allowing women in combat roles. go figure?
Yes kashmir very not good .indian army very naughty in Kashmir. Allah is merciful

S.A.S.Warrior
11-12-2005, 08:10 PM
what a hypocrite,i hope shes in jail?

Women make great Military Chefs,Military Police,Military Clerks,Army dog trainers but combat is for the boys.
I know most blokes would like to 'shoot the wife' but sticking her in the army's moraly wrong,women shouldnt be getting gunned down or blown up,its not good karma!!!

ozzi-solja
11-13-2005, 04:01 AM
damn straight. i think ive used this example before, but the Israeli army posted mixed units in Gaza once, men and women, and whenever a fire fight took palce, and a woman was wounded, the whole platoon would fall back to cover her. thats just male instincts, you cant blame the chick for that, but still, i shows that having women in combat will hamper the mens' ability to function as a warrior without turning into a complete *****cat

ozzi-solja
11-13-2005, 04:02 AM
oh come on, as if ***** is blotched out. thanks israelingtine.
p-u-s-s-y... as if

royal marine
11-13-2005, 02:55 PM
the thing about the girl passing SAS selection is bull**** and propaganda made by a female MP

Morten
11-13-2005, 03:44 PM
Woman has no place in battle is very silly to girl in battle . In Pakistani Army ,No woman ever in battle . She stay at home and cook good meal for husband :)

haha... that was like the worst post ever and i cant believe that people actually agree with it!

females has weakneses and so do men! saying that a woman cant fight is crap!

ozzi-solja
11-14-2005, 04:17 AM
the thing about the girl passing SAS selection is bull**** and propaganda made by a female MP

what in ****s name are you on about little man. im talking about the Australian Special Air Service Regiment dumbass, how the hell would you know what goes on in there? you read 'The Australian' every damn morining?

Spike
11-14-2005, 08:05 AM
haha... that was like the worst post ever and i cant believe that people actually agree with it!

females has weakneses and so do men! saying that a woman cant fight is crap!
What would you know,you are from Denmark .Home of apologists and quakers and appeasement artists ;)

Morten
11-14-2005, 09:58 AM
What would you know,you are from Denmark .Home of apologists and quakers and appeasement artists ;)

we got women in our military... and let me tell u this! TONS of those are 100x better soldiers than u are... how does the country determine knowledge? Denmark is one of the fastest growing countries in the world on many fields... that cant be ignored! military spoken we have tons of combat experience! we're operating all over the goddam world and have a close relationship with the USA... we also got some of the best pilots (atleast the statistics tell so on the Aviater schools in the USA) (Texas to be precise) though they need combat experience. We use most of our money on the economic and comfort of our country instead of using it on weapons to kill others. :)

Our Special Forces are working in Afghanistan/Iraq with the american Special Forces...

u obviously dont know what u're talking about Spike... almost every post u create shows people that u're a total moron. :P

Spike
11-14-2005, 10:27 AM
we got women in our military... and let me tell u this! TONS of those are 100x better soldiers than u are... how does the country determine knowledge? Denmark is one of the fastest growing countries in the world on many fields... that cant be ignored! military spoken we have tons of combat experience! we're operating all over the goddam world and have a close relationship with the USA... we also got some of the best pilots (atleast the statistics tell so on the Aviater schools in the USA) (Texas to be precise) though they need combat experience. We use most of our money on the economic and comfort of our country instead of using it on weapons to kill others. :)

Our Special Forces are working in Afghanistan/Iraq with the american Special Forces...

u obviously dont know what u're talking about Spike... almost every post u create shows people that u're a total moron. :P
Are you female Morton ?
The last war Denmark fought in was when Nelson bombarded Copenhagen .That took about 5 minutes . Most Danish wars last at least 10 minutes .:D

Morten
11-14-2005, 01:21 PM
Are you female Morton ?
The last war Denmark fought in was when Nelson bombarded Copenhagen .That took about 5 minutes . Most Danish wars last at least 10 minutes .:D

no i am not female.... but i know tons of men who have great respect for female soldiers...

so shut the a-hole...

and wtf? i'm not talking about denmark raging war! we're around the world as a Peace Keeping Force helping others...

royal marine
11-15-2005, 11:29 AM
ozzie you put SAS rather than SASR