View Full Version : Hooah! I'm In!
SniperAlpha1
09-05-2007, 06:23 PM
I joined the Army Reserves until I graduate College. I am serving with a SMP and joined a Psy Op unit! I'll go to Airborne and Ranger school in the summer and Join Ranger Battalion after I graduate. Hooah!
Fireball
09-05-2007, 06:32 PM
I joined the Army Reserves until I graduate College. I am serving with a SMP and joined a Psy Op unit! I'll go to Airborne and Ranger school in the summer and Join Ranger Battalion after I graduate. Hooah!
Congrats! Best of luck to yah! :D
Tacky
09-05-2007, 08:49 PM
I joined the Army Reserves until I graduate College. I am serving with a SMP and joined a Psy Op unit! I'll go to Airborne and Ranger school in the summer and Join Ranger Battalion after I graduate. Hooah!
It doesn't quite work like that, hard charger.
Your unit isn't going to send you to Ranger school without you having some time in, and probably some deployments... slots are hard to get. Airborne you might be able to swing. You certainly won't do both courses in one summer as Rgr itself takes about 3 months in total.
You also won't be able to just "Join" the Ranger Regiment (Not battalion, you aren't assigned a battalion until you pass RIP). You'll have to try and get a RIP slot in your contract, which is almost impossible when switching from Reserves to active duty. If you wanted to be a Ranger, you've put a pretty hard clamp on yourself by joining the Reserves.
Did your recruiter tell you you'd be able to do all of that? <sigh>
SniperAlpha1
09-05-2007, 08:53 PM
Well I asked him If it was RIP when He told me, he really didn't answer me and just said that I would go to Ranger Battalion (Training?) He also told me that going airborne and Ranger School would be simple between terms. And finally, He said that SMP kept me in the states even if the unit deploys. Tacky, any input would be great. I want to get the facts straight.
And No, training would take place different summers.
Nightflyer
09-05-2007, 08:58 PM
I joined the Army Reserves until I graduate College. I am serving with a SMP and joined a Psy Op unit! I'll go to Airborne and Ranger school in the summer and Join Ranger Battalion after I graduate. Hooah!
Dude, good job......When do you leave for boot and Ait?
They have Army Airborne Ranger 75 Reg School during the summer? Awesome. Where ?
Ft. Benning; Ft. Lewis; Ft Stewart; HAAF; Hunter Army Air Field. Awesome. I Knew you had in you......Maybe one day.....will run into each other at Hunter Army Airfield and you'll be on board one of our blackbirds.......Good luck. Rangers lead the way.....
Nightflyer. Highspeed.
Army Aviation. Air Assualt.
Black berets forever.
I joined the Army Reserves until I graduate College. I am serving with a SMP and joined a Psy Op unit! I'll go to Airborne and Ranger school in the summer and Join Ranger Battalion after I graduate. Hooah!
Congradulations Snips.. great to see your starting your journey.... As Uncle Tacky has pointed out, going from a reserve Psy Op unit to Army Rangers is a very difficult task.. but I wish you luck in it... Dont forget youre in a good unit as a reservist and theres ALLOT of speciality areas that you can get into as a full timer that would directly support Special Forces... Psy Ops are specialist in their own right you know....
Well, Im sure Tacky will help ya out on advice cos I never travelled the US Military road myself, but I do wish you well..:)
Regards
Exo..
SniperAlpha1
09-06-2007, 04:27 PM
I'm hoping Tacky can help. My Recruiter said that going Airborne is required for PSYOP so Ranger school isn't that difficult to pull off. After I graduate, I can Terminate the 6 year Reserves contract for a 4 year RIP active duty Contract.
And Thanks!
MSG Glenn
09-06-2007, 05:13 PM
As a 37F you'd probably be assigned to Regiment. That's home for a lot of specialty MOSs like dog handlers & Recon.
SniperAlpha1
09-06-2007, 05:46 PM
I don't plan on staying a 37F, Reserves don't have combat arms so this is the best choice for my skills.
I have a strong background in Latin, allowing me to learn languages easily. Not only that They were impressed with my 6 month paid internship with the Cleveland Clinic Psych Department.
Tacky
09-06-2007, 06:58 PM
Airborne isn't difficult to get since CAPOC has an abn designation.
Ranger school is a different story, whether or not you'll get to go will depend on a lot of factors. Chances are slim you'll see it within the first two to four years of your Reserve enlistment, or without at least one deployment. I'm not saying it isn't possible, but it's unlikely. That's no big deal, though. Any MOS can go through Ranger school now, so now or later .. you can get it.
The problem with jumping from Reserves to Active is that you'll then be prior service. The RIP contract isn't open to prior service. There are ways around it, but it's a pain in the ***. You also have to get your Reserve component to release you so you can go active, which can sometimes be a pain. I notice he left that tidbit out.
You haven't choosen a bad MOS, but just remember you'll have to reclass to another MOS to get into the 75th Regiment even if you can get around the contract.
I don't want to dissuade you, I just want you to be prepared to have to fight to get what you want later.
I'm in a rush now, but I'll give you some more info later.
SniperAlpha1
09-06-2007, 07:06 PM
Thanks, The Idea is that they help pay for school, and Reserves let me do that, I'll look into it, but the ultimate goal is to get a shot at RIP.
Thanks Tacky
SniperAlpha1
02-08-2008, 10:33 PM
An Update: Since My Parents did not sign and told me to wait until I was 18, I pursued other options since my path was not cement and qualified for a NROTC (Marine Option) scholarship, so I will be a jarhead instead.
As far as I can tell, Army and Marine Infantry don't differ that much... can anyone verify that?
Nightflyer
02-09-2008, 01:05 PM
An Update: Since My Parents did not sign and told me to wait until I was 18, I pursued other options since my path was not cement and qualified for a NROTC (Marine Option) scholarship, so I will be a jarhead instead.
As far as I can tell, Army and Marine Infantry don't differ that much... can anyone verify that?
I can tell you this...My friend is a Marine..We equally have the same confidence and pride in our work and soldier skills...I take great pride and always felt it's an honor being Army Aviation. Awesome...Being a Marine is an honor.The few The proud The Marines.Congrads,You have leadership skills ..You deserve it.....so whats next? Marine Recon?
Spc. Nightflyer.
Army Aviation.
Black berets forever.
Tacky
02-09-2008, 05:38 PM
An Update: Since My Parents did not sign and told me to wait until I was 18, I pursued other options since my path was not cement and qualified for a NROTC (Marine Option) scholarship, so I will be a jarhead instead.
As far as I can tell, Army and Marine Infantry don't differ that much... can anyone verify that?
There are some difference between Army and Marine Infantry. One isn't better than the other, however. You'll have less opportunities in the Corps in terms of varying assignments simply because of the size, but as long as you're happy with being a Marine - you'll have no problems with Corps life.
You deserve it.....so whats next? Marine Recon?
What's next for him is getting through college. Looking beyond that is pointless and will distract him from his 50m target.
Nightflyer
02-09-2008, 06:37 PM
What's next for him is getting through college.
I know that's right. It's true. Good stuff...I know exactly where your coming from...
HumbleOne
05-15-2008, 01:31 PM
What's next for him is getting through college. Looking beyond that is pointless and will distract him from his 50m target.
What is 50m? Sorry, I'm new. Any links for definitions of these numbers?
MSG Glenn
05-16-2008, 01:49 PM
What is 50m? Sorry, I'm new. Any links for definitions of these numbers?A target that is 50 meters away from you. 50m = 50 meters, about 150 feet or so.
Thanks, The Idea is that they help pay for school, and Reserves let me do that, I'll look into it, but the ultimate goal is to get a shot at RIP.
Thanks Tacky
Good luck with College Snips and your reserve training....
Exo..
SniperAlpha1
05-16-2008, 04:37 PM
Good luck with College Snips and your reserve training....
Exo..
I'm actually going in with the Corp, Ex. I think that its a better fit for me.
I'm actually going in with the Corp, Ex. I think that its a better fit for me.
In that case.... SEMPRE FI!!!....:cool:
HumbleOne
05-20-2008, 10:07 AM
A target that is 50 meters away from you. 50m = 50 meters, about 150 feet or so.
Thanks Glenn, I thought it was a MOS
Tacky
05-20-2008, 02:02 PM
I'm actually going in with the Corp, Ex. I think that its a better fit for me.
Corps. It isn't USMC Inc (which would be "Corp")
SniperAlpha1
05-20-2008, 02:46 PM
Thank you Tacky, lol. I was at work and only have a 10 minute lunch break. I was kind of rushing.
Nightflyer
05-20-2008, 08:01 PM
Thank you Tacky, lol. I was at work and only have a 10 minute lunch break. I was kind of rushing.
Attention to detail. If you want that promotion. The Army and the Corps.
Spc. ~ Nightflyer ~ Spec 4 Mafia
SniperAlpha1
06-19-2008, 09:18 AM
An Update: I am going into the Platoon Leader Course.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platoon_Leaders_Course
I think I am going to go into the Junior/Senior Program instead of the combined, just as a personal preference. I can't wait, so its back to full out training so I can max the Marine Corps Physical Fitness Test: 18 minute 3-mile, 20 Pull-Ups and 100 sit-ups in 2 minutes.
An Update: I am going into the Platoon Leader Course.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platoon_Leaders_Course
I think I am going to go into the Junior/Senior Program instead of the combined, just as a personal preference. I can't wait, so its back to full out training so I can max the Marine Corps Physical Fitness Test: 18 minute 3-mile, 20 Pull-Ups and 100 sit-ups in 2 minutes.
Looks good Snips.. congrats... Im sure you will do well, keep paced and stay cool!!.. Like Uncle Exo!!...:D
Exo...
SniperAlpha1
07-29-2008, 06:15 PM
An update: I took my ASVAB for real. Scored a 95 and chose my MOS: 0203, Ground Intelligence Officer. With luck I'll lead a Scout/Sniper Platoon.
jrj1000
07-29-2008, 06:50 PM
An update: I took my ASVAB for real. Scored a 95 and chose my MOS: 0203, Ground Intelligence Officer. With luck I'll lead a Scout/Sniper Platoon.
I missed this thread before...hats off to you Snipes...good lad...i knew you would have a great future...even years back..
congrates once again mate....brilliant:cool:
SniperAlpha1
07-29-2008, 06:54 PM
Thanks. I'm excited. I wanted to go Infantry, but I also wanted some Intel experience. I get to lead a combat platoon, whether scout/sniper or Battalion Reconnaissance, see combat, but also serve the CO's staff with up to date Intel. It's a good fit for me.
MSG Glenn
07-30-2008, 07:04 AM
Congratulations, AS! When do you leave for active duty? Which are you going to - OCS or PLS?
Sounds like you picked an interesting MOS.
Armygirl4Ever
07-30-2008, 08:11 AM
An update: I took my ASVAB for real. Scored a 95 and chose my MOS: 0203, Ground Intelligence Officer. With luck I'll lead a Scout/Sniper Platoon.
Awesome...my husband's last u nit was a Scout unit and I'm rather partial to them now..
Good luck!
jrj1000
07-30-2008, 06:00 PM
Thanks. I'm excited. I wanted to go Infantry, but I also wanted some Intel experience. I get to lead a combat platoon, whether scout/sniper or Battalion Reconnaissance, see combat, but also serve the CO's staff with up to date Intel. It's a good fit for me. The bill gives you room to do both snipes?..i guess you get the best of both worlds..well done again mate
scconwill
07-30-2008, 06:14 PM
I joined the Army Reserves until I graduate College. I am serving with a SMP and joined a Psy Op unit! I'll go to Airborne and Ranger school in the summer and Join Ranger Battalion after I graduate. Hooah!
No Ranger school during the summer my friend. Now as for Airborne yes but not Ranger. I'm going to Airborne School next summer, and after I graduate I'm fighting to get a slot in Ranger school. Well good job and keep charging hard.
MSG Glenn
07-31-2008, 07:39 AM
I'm not sure Cadets can go to Ranger School, Samuel. For one thing it's 62 days long & there's no wiggle room to be put back to the next class if you fail a portion. Sometimes the RS students have to wait a month before they can join a class in progress or the next beginning class. That would certainly cut into your college time. Then what's to say your class will begin as soon as school lets out for the summer? There may be as much as a month in holdover. Then you have to take the Pre- Ranger course before starting RS.
I don't want to dash your hopes but you'll be given the opportunity to attend right after commissioning. Just that much more time to prepare yourself. It's a 62 day kick in the nuts so you'll have to be in the best shape of your life. My son started preparing over a year before he even joined the Army with the anticipation of the possibility of going into the 75th Regt. He's glad he did because he made it through RS the first time & still it was rough for him. He saw studs get kicked out or dropped on request by the dozens.
scconwill
07-31-2008, 11:46 AM
I'm not sure Cadets can go to Ranger School, Samuel. For one thing it's 62 days long & there's no wiggle room to be put back to the next class if you fail a portion. Sometimes the RS students have to wait a month before they can join a class in progress or the next beginning class. That would certainly cut into your college time. Then what's to say your class will begin as soon as school lets out for the summer? There may be as much as a month in holdover. Then you have to take the Pre- Ranger course before starting RS.
I don't want to dash your hopes but you'll be given the opportunity to attend right after commissioning. Just that much more time to prepare yourself. It's a 62 day kick in the nuts so you'll have to be in the best shape of your life. My son started preparing over a year before he even joined the Army with the anticipation of the possibility of going into the 75th Regt. He's glad he did because he made it through RS the first time & still it was rough for him. He saw studs get kicked out or dropped on request by the dozens.
We can't go during school but we can secure a slot after we get our commission. As for the training Ill have gone to Airborne School, Officers Basic, and all this on top of being a member of the Ranger Challenge team for 4 years I am most confident that I'll be in shape for Ranger School
MSG Glenn
07-31-2008, 01:22 PM
Samuel,
It's a fact that any kind of basic training including OBC is not enough to get Ranger ready. Those who are in the 75th Ranger Regt. can attest to that. They also think Airborne School PT is a joke.
Those that succeed in RIP & Ranger School have to do additional PT on their own time just to meet the Ranger minimums before they're even tested for a seat in RS.
The minimums on the standard Army APFT have been increased to 80%. The Darby Queen obstacle course will tax every muscle in your body as well as your cardio. The 12 mile march with a 35 lb. ruck plus all of your equipment isn't a Sunday stroll.
Almost every day the Rangers in the 3rd Batt. run up Cardiac Hill at an extremely fast pace.
Now granted you won't have to go through RIP & you won't be able to get into the 75th Regt. until you're at least a 1LT & performed as a PL in an extraordinary manner but if you want to get through Pre-Ranger just to qualify for Ranger School you'll really have to be in the best shape of your life. It's best to be able to max out the PT test because you won't be taking that test in Pre-Ranger or RS under ideal conditions. There are no re-tests if you fail. You might be sent back to the next class but there are no guarantees. Part of your grades will come from your fellow students.
Mind you I'm not criticizing but just stating a fact . I want you to succeed & the only way to do that is for you to start right now. It could take a couple of years to be able to max the Ranger PT test.
My son's been out of the 3rd Ranger Batt for a couple of months & he still runs nearly every day, as well as weight work, Judo & lots of other physical activities. He has that so ingrained in him that he gets nervous if he cant do his daily PT which takes a good 2 hours. At this time he's in his element because he & I are training a young man in our Judo club for entry into the Marine Corps this fall. We're training him to Ranger standards so there will be no doubt in anyone's mind that he can make it through bootcamp & the Crucible, and we're shooting to have him make Recruit of the Cycle.
Now that my son is in a Reserve unit he wants to get a 300 score on the PT test next month. He said if he doesn't then he'll even extend his training day.
That's the kind of attitude you'll need to pass RS.
scconwill
07-31-2008, 03:06 PM
Samuel,
It's a fact that any kind of basic training including OBC is not enough to get Ranger ready. Those who are in the 75th Ranger Regt. can attest to that. They also think Airborne School PT is a joke.
Those that succeed in RIP & Ranger School have to do additional PT on their own time just to meet the Ranger minimums before they're even tested for a seat in RS.
The minimums on the standard Army APFT have been increased to 80%. The Darby Queen obstacle course will tax every muscle in your body as well as your cardio. The 12 mile march with a 35 lb. ruck plus all of your equipment isn't a Sunday stroll.
Almost every day the Rangers in the 3rd Batt. run up Cardiac Hill at an extremely fast pace.
Now granted you won't have to go through RIP & you won't be able to get into the 75th Regt. until you're at least a 1LT & performed as a PL in an extraordinary manner but if you want to get through Pre-Ranger just to qualify for Ranger School you'll really have to be in the best shape of your life. It's best to be able to max out the PT test because you won't be taking that test in Pre-Ranger or RS under ideal conditions. There are no re-tests if you fail. You might be sent back to the next class but there are no guarantees. Part of your grades will come from your fellow students.
Mind you I'm not criticizing but just stating a fact . I want you to succeed & the only way to do that is for you to start right now. It could take a couple of years to be able to max the Ranger PT test.
My son's been out of the 3rd Ranger Batt for a couple of months & he still runs nearly every day, as well as weight work, Judo & lots of other physical activities. He has that so ingrained in him that he gets nervous if he cant do his daily PT which takes a good 2 hours. At this time he's in his element because he & I are training a young man in our Judo club for entry into the Marine Corps this fall. We're training him to Ranger standards so there will be no doubt in anyone's mind that he can make it through bootcamp & the Crucible, and we're shooting to have him make Recruit of the Cycle.
Now that my son is in a Reserve unit he wants to get a 300 score on the PT test next month. He said if he doesn't then he'll even extend his training day.
That's the kind of attitude you'll need to pass RS.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying its going to be easy, but I am going out on a ****y branch and saying I can do it. I do feel I have about 6 or 7 years before I get a chance to take a stab at it. I scored a 276 on my APFT last month and that is good for the only thing I have been doing this summer is my football work out (basically concentrating on agility and strength), swimming, and boxing. I also scored that after getting my nose broke and my face cut up after a boxing match. Just like your son is doing his best and giving it his all I am too.
MSG Glenn
07-31-2008, 05:08 PM
Good for you, Samuel! You'll have to keep up with that pace & even improve. Keep on doing athletics. Boxing is good because you might be able to get on an Army Combatives team. On my son's team he had boxers, wrestlers, Muy Tai, BJJ, karate, & he with Judo, karate & wrestling. They cross-trained & everyone contributed their expertise.
Attitude is everything. Those that have doubts about their ability to get through Ranger School, or any other endeavor for that matter, usually prove themselves right.
Do you have Infantry locked in? I'm not sure about MOS allocations for ROTC graduates. If so then good deal. My MOS for most of my Army career. I had to break away for a commo MOS to become a 1SG but came right back to Airborne Infantry as soon as I could.
scconwill
07-31-2008, 08:07 PM
Good for you, Samuel! You'll have to keep up with that pace & even improve. Keep on doing athletics. Boxing is good because you might be able to get on an Army Combatives team. On my son's team he had boxers, wrestlers, Muy Tai, BJJ, karate, & he with Judo, karate & wrestling. They cross-trained & everyone contributed their expertise.
Attitude is everything. Those that have doubts about their ability to get through Ranger School, or any other endeavor for that matter, usually prove themselves right.
Do you have Infantry locked in? I'm not sure about MOS allocations for ROTC graduates. If so then good deal. My MOS for most of my Army career. I had to break away for a commo MOS to become a 1SG but came right back to Airborne Infantry as soon as I could.
I love boxing and wrestling. I've been boxing since I was 16 so I have had my *** kicked my fair share of times hahaha.
Yea Attitude is everything. I know that I have a good chance of going to ranger school, but if I don't get in I'm not going to cry about it. I'll just train harder and I'll strive to be the best officer in my Airborne or Infantry BN.
I half to pick 5 MOS's 3 that half to be in combat arms. All of mine are combat arms and there are usually a lot of openings for infantry. This coped with my evaluations that I will get my senior year will depend on where I go.
MSG Glenn
08-01-2008, 03:42 PM
In my experience Infantry has been the top choice of most officers nearing commissioning so you'll really have to excel in ROTC.
Always strive to be the best officer in the best unit in the best Army in the best country in the world & you'll have no problems.
When you get your commission listen to your PSG. He's been around a while & knows the Army & it's procedures. Those that don't listen to their PSGs will usually get a strip torn off their backsides by the company commander!
scconwill
08-01-2008, 04:34 PM
In my experience Infantry has been the top choice of most officers nearing commissioning so you'll really have to excel in ROTC.
Always strive to be the best officer in the best unit in the best Army in the best country in the world & you'll have no problems.
When you get your commission listen to your PSG. He's been around a while & knows the Army & it's procedures. Those that don't listen to their PSGs will usually get a strip torn off their backsides by the company commander!
Yea the sad thing is most cadets in all the 8th bergade are opting for Corps of Engineers, Medical, and Military Police. In the past few years there has been a greater push by the Army for cadets to choose a more tecnical feild instead of a combat arms related field.
Marine4Life
08-02-2008, 10:21 PM
In my experience Infantry has been the top choice of most officers nearing commissioning so you'll really have to excel in ROTC.
Always strive to be the best officer in the best unit in the best Army in the best country in the world & you'll have no problems.
When you get your commission listen to your PSG. He's been around a while & knows the Army & it's procedures. Those that don't listen to their PSGs will usually get a strip torn off their backsides by the company commander!
I want to be a pilot. If I can't fly then I want to be an air traffic controller. I was told by my uncle to do the exact same thing you said to do MSG. He said he saw many a Lt. get a good thrashing for not listening to his PSgt or his NCO's.
Fireball
08-03-2008, 09:21 AM
Yea the sad thing is most cadets in all the 8th bergade are opting for Corps of Engineers, Medical, and Military Police. In the past few years there has been a greater push by the Army for cadets to choose a more tecnical feild instead of a combat arms related field.
I don't know if what you say is true....however, going out on a limb, but to me that would make sense to let the guys who have lived and breathed combat from day 1 handle it... it just reminded me of a few conversations I have been in on where I have heard from several Soldier's the frustration they have with Officer's straight out of training and they are actually overwhelmed by the combat zone and pretty much put everything on the enlisted side to deal with because it isn't like in the text book they read. Does that make sense... however, most technical fields don't have such a grand transition. Tech is pretty much by the book - for the most part.
scconwill
08-03-2008, 12:33 PM
I don't know if what you say is true....however, going out on a limb, but to me that would make sense to let the guys who have lived and breathed combat from day 1 handle it... it just reminded me of a few conversations I have been in on where I have heard from several Soldier's the frustration they have with Officer's straight out of training and they are actually overwhelmed by the combat zone and pretty much put everything on the enlisted side to deal with because it isn't like in the text book they read. Does that make sense... however, most technical fields don't have such a grand transition. Tech is pretty much by the book - for the most part.
That the point before we were so strapped for officers would have a good bit of time with there unit before being deployed. Now new officers are being throw straight into combat. That is why my unit pushes everybody who is going into combat arms to go to Airborne School, Ranger, ect. But it is true the Army is currently pumping tons of money into engineering and medical programs. Hell all you half to say is you want be a nurse and the Army will contract you out fast.
SniperAlpha1
08-19-2008, 07:24 PM
I leave for MEPs tomorrow and I'm psyched! Physical and Swear in is on Thursday so my journey officially starts.
OORAH
jrj1000
08-22-2008, 06:00 AM
I leave for MEPs tomorrow and I'm psyched! Physical and Swear in is on Thursday so my journey officially starts.
OORAH
Great news snipes...and so it begins:cool:..good luck mate..not that i think you will need it:cool:
I leave for MEPs tomorrow and I'm psyched! Physical and Swear in is on Thursday so my journey officially starts.
OORAH
Good luck Snips, USMC will have one squared away recruit!!...:)
Sempre Fi!!...
Exo..
SniperAlpha1
12-08-2008, 11:03 AM
OK guys, just wanted to give you an update:
My last final is Friday night so there was no sense of leaving school at 9:30 to get home at 1 in the morning, so I'm going to spend the night and wait until Saturday, but my recruiter calls me and lets me know that this is the weekend my reserve unit is drilling, so he's coming down here to take me to meet my reserve unit and CO.
I'm excited to meet the guys I'm going to be working with for three years. But the main reason I'm going is to learn my role as both an enlisted Marine for my sophomore year, and an Officer in the same unit in two years. I chose 0311 to be my reserve MOS-Infantry. But I will be competing for a Ground Intelligence Officer slot in TBS after I graduate and head to active duty.
I can't wait for boot, but I'm a bit hesitant about OCS, apparently its much more difficult than Boot, but for the time being, I'll keep my eyes on the 25 yard target.
Oorah, just wanted to give you guys and update.
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