your faviorite weapon

[China ownz]

AK-47 it will always kick *** in short range

[Lord Barker]

Prefer FNFAL varient SLR, it 'kicks ***' everywhere.

[rangerzrock]

psg-1 sniper or the dragunov svd sniper or the m4 assault rifle the m4 is lightweight, quite durable, ideal for covert ops. or the mp5a4 smg.probly the m4 but i kinda like the ak just for the power.

[Lord Barker]

psg - 1 is an over glorifyed target rifle, give me an accuracy international L96A1 anyday.

[Bad Rabbit]

H&K G36....it´s the only choice

[rangerzrock]

ahh i don't give a rip i'm a born sniper (mean i'm pretty good on the eye, and i love the sheer stealth of being a sniper) so i pick the psg-1 hands down.

[Jynx]

barrett m82a3 for me sirs

[rangerzrock]

ahh the good ol berretta, for my fav pistol it's probably the .40 USP or the 92FS 9mm

[OldDog]

Anything from a backpack nuke to a piece of broken glass. As long as it gets the job done.

[rangerzrock]

i wun't wanna be in a firefight with a broken peice of glass against a bunch of well-armed terrorists though m8. lol :cool:

[Djwonder]

best rifles --m-4 and m-16...
best hand gun- desert eagle...
best sniper rifle --the scoped m-4 ,,but i like more the famas rifle...
best machine gun---m-60 ,,but the saw gun its more compact and lightweigth.....

[rangerzrock]

best rifles --m-4 and m-16...
best hand gun- desert eagle...
best sniper rifle --the scoped m-4 ,,but i like more the famas rifle...
best machine gun---m-60 ,,but the saw gun its more compact and lightweigth.....


the m-4 is not a sniper it's an assault rifle, for sniping it wun't even come close to a psg-1 or a svd or a mgar and many others. did you find out what an m4 was? it doens't even come close to being a sniper, not even one with a scope, :cool:

[sealteam6]

Anything from a backpack nuke to a piece of broken glass. As long as it gets the job done.


Very true, but as for a favorite i quite like the 8 in guns the old american battleships use to have, what a cool thing it must have been to see targets 25 mi away getting vaporized....

[rangerzrock]

ahhh heaven lol jk :cool:

[CanadianSoldier]

Armament:
Missiles: TOW 2A and 2B
Propulsion: 2 stage, solid propellant rocket motor
Penetration: TOW 2A ERA + 1 metre of armour
Rate of fire: 2 rounds per minute

Specifications:
Length: 1.32m (missile in case)
Maximum Range: 3750 metres :eek:

What? It's a weapon lol ;)

[soulchild]

A deep bunker outfitted with lots of ICBM's

[torspo[fin]]

hm..

SS-18 Mod 4 -
(natocode SATAN, Russian mirv ICBM carrying atleast 10 nuclear warheads)

:D


no really. i like airsoft guns cos they dont hurt people. ;)

[royal marine]

best handgun-----------------desert eagle.....(blows big holes)
best sub-machine gun----------------------SLR used by brits in the falklands
best sniper rifle-----------------------------i cant remeber the name but has infrred scope
best machine gun---------------------------GPMG

[torspo[fin]]

well.. if id have to choose my favorites from
that field.. hm.

older guns:

Mosin Nagant M28 "pystykorva" &
Suomi K31 SMG

tools of the legendary Simo Häyhä,
the most succesful sniper in the world
(over 500 kills during the winterwar).

modern arms:

handgun: Glock
Assault rifle: RK-95
Sniper rifle: Sako TRG-22
MachineGun: PKM

[rangerzrock]

best pistol: USP .40 It has blowback from hell but it rocks
best assault rifle: M4
best sniper rifle: PSG-1
best missile: Tomahawk

[Harrington]

handgun: mark23
Assault rifle: OICW
Sniper rifle: m82a1 or sr-25
MachineGun: SAW
smg: hk5

[sealteam6]

Actually the coolest weapon ha to be the gun that the germans used to shell sevastopol, russia during WWII. this bad boy had a 800mm barrel and a range of something like 200 km. everytime it was fired, the barrel expanded from the heat :o

[torspo[fin]]

Actually the coolest weapon ha to be the gun that the germans used to shell sevastopol, russia during WWII. this bad boy had a 800mm barrel and a range of something like 200 km. everytime it was fired, the barrel expanded from the heat :o

yep.. that sure was a bigone.

http://www.aopt91.dsl.pipex.com/railgun/images/Railguns/Dora/doracol.jpg

try to sling this gun :D

[capwil]

Hate to say it, but after using several hand-me-down weapons, and vehicles (...reserves...), the best weapon of all, would be my hands. Without those I'd be useless! Unless, by some miracle my toes all grew a few inches longer!

[royal marine]

yeah the best old weapon was probably the m1 garand or the gewehr used by krauts, the m4 aint good by the way ranger

[sealteam6]

the gweher is kinda nice

But you are right the m4 is so damned lite!

[best_ranger]

fav pistol: 92fs berreta
fav sniper: dragunov svd
fav assault rifle: m4 or the german stg 44 (the m4 may be light but it still kicks ***)
fav missile: chee, the v2 rocket was one hell of a classic
fav fighter: fa18 another classic
fav bomber: b-52 stratofortress old but still kickin ***
fav machine gun: give me a good ol browning anyday
fav sub-machin gun: hmmm either an mp5sk compact or the good ol trusty uzi

[royal marine]

best ranger that has to be your worst post ever

the dragunov marksmanship rifle was rubbish and proved rubbish in the 1st gulf war
the M4 is not supposed to be good,its supposed to be light and okay for urban combat (just like the STEN gun
now i dont know if youre just dumb or an argument starting twat because that V2 rocket killed a lot of brits in WW2 and to mention it, touches our nerves a lot and if you said that in front of a brit who sufered from it he wont be too happy
the b52 is old and crappy comapred to the stealth bombers nowadays
the browning 30cal light machine gun is **** aswell compared to the GPMG and MINIMI light machine guns
who would have an MP5SK when you can have something much more powerful and accurate like the M16 or SLR
and the UZI is dated and crap comapred to SLR and M16 aswell

so overall that post was total and utter BULL****

[Tacky]

The Dragunov SVD is not a sniper rifle .. it's a DMR.

As for comparing the MP5 with the M16 .. apples and oranges. An MP5 has its uses.

M4 works fine for me, puts my targets down.

You need to relax, Cadet - he has his opinions (they obviously aren't based on experience) and you have yours (which are also not based on experience).

[Grimes]

ooooh, guns :D .

close quaters combat- pistol-colt .45, shotgun 12 gauge buckshot
fav rifle- Ar 15
fav machine gun- S.A.W.
fav sniper - u.s. army m-24

[royal marine]

i have cadet experiences with most of those rifles...but obvoisly not shooting someone just war games

and is i have said before which regiment did you serve in tacky?

[M4M203]

my fav. weapon if the OCSW (Objective Crew Served Weapon), its not on the battlegrounds yet but it is 10x's deadlier than any other heavy machine gun and its only around 40 lbs w/ tripod and ammo compared to the .50 cal which is around 110 lbs...it can also shoot grenades..

Some info:

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/ammo/edwards.pdf

[royal marine]

surely that weapon must be used for suppresing fire only

[M4M203]

no not just suppressing because if the enemy is hiding behind a wall we wouldnt need to be shooting at them keeping them from peaking up, because we have bullets that will explode over the wall killing the enemy.

[royal marine]

yeah but the SLR assult rifle could fire through walls aswell so whats the point in that weapon

[M4M203]

You wouldnt have to use as many shots, it would be more accurate, SLR couldnt fire threw any wall now lol, lets say a very thick one then the OCSW comes into hand, as in any othere machine gun could really fire through a wall thats easy to penetrate,
but for right now im stopping the arguments between us royal and just have normal convos u can disagree or w/e but its getting old and not gettin any of us any where...ok?

[Balic]

the dragunov marksmanship rifle was rubbish and proved rubbish in the 1st gulf war

O yeah?

now i dont know if youre just dumb or an argument starting twat because that V2 rocket killed a lot of brits in WW2 and to mention it, touches our nerves a lot and if you said that in front of a brit who sufered from it he wont be too happy

What about that 800mm gun that is Torspo's favorite gun, it also killed alot of people, what about ALL those weapons, they where all used to kill people, but because it weren't Brits it doesn't matters? Thats kinda sick...If thats his favorite weapon what does it matters?

the b52 is old and crappy compared to the stealth bombers nowadays

Still the B-52 carries ALOT more bombs...
Its not crappy, it saved alot of soldiers in Vietnam till now
The Stealth-bomber is not as ''stealthy'' as people say
The cost of one of those things is 2000 million dollars, so they can't make many of them
+ it doesn't do its job any better than the B-52.

Overall its kinda useless of rits price...

And why are you comparing the M16 with a MP5?
They are 2 totally different guns, he didn't say its the best he said its his favorite, so why comparing it with other weapons, you just don't get the point of the topic...

so overall that post was total and utter BULL****

Actually, I think your post is total and utter BULL****, as you confuse the best weapon topic with favorite weapon topic.

My favorite weapon is the Diemaco C7 because thats the only one I have handled, and I'm sure most of you guys didn't handle to guns that you say are ''crappy'' or ''pieces of ****''

And I also don't think that when you are in front of a bunch of Iraqi insurgents armed with RPG's and AK's you handle them with anything from a back packed nuke to a piece of glass , don't say things like that if you don't know where you are talking about...
And what kind of people want to nuke there enemy...

[royal marine]

well you totally read my post wrong didnt you ya **** end
get some english lessons mate

[Balic]

You are the one misunderstanding the whole topic...

I wonder how old you are, can't yu discuss in a mature way or something, I highly doubt you are in the army or will ever be allowed in the army with that attitude...

[royal marine]

so then what kind of attitude have i given you the impression of

if i went to a recruiting office and talked politely and all that wussy **** then i would be turned down cos i would be too much of a poof to join


i act aggressive in my posts which is what the army needs,as in aggression towards the enemy of course

[Balic]

Hahaha, the army doesn't want rambo-wannabe morons, and yes, also the US Army, with that aggresive attitude you are coming nowhere, calling somebody a ''**** end'' becuase he didagrees with you is the lowest of the lowest, yes, even if yu want to join the US Army, cange your attitude, you sound very immature... (Don't tell me you are older than 16)

Ad as long you haven't encountered an enemy yet, you are not allowed to say ''i act aggressive in my posts which is what the army needs,as in aggression towards the enemy of course'''

Remember that 98% of all soldiers can't shot a human being when they see eachother, 1% are pshyco's, 1% is something else, there is a good change you are one of those 98%.

[storstark]

Well, I guess it is the RBS56, also known as BILL2. Have fired 3 live-missiles (30000USD each). Damn cool smashing a old tank with it :) The downside was that it was a bit heavy running around the swedish woods with the system.

[Nord-West]

AN-94 Abakan. 5.45 mm, russian.

First 2 snapshot - 1800 snapshot/min rate of far.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/an94-1.jpg

[torspo[fin]]

Well, I guess it is the RBS56, also known as BILL2. Have fired 3 live-missiles (30000USD each). Damn cool smashing a old tank with it :) The downside was that it was a bit heavy running around the swedish woods with the system.

shh! dont yell so loud ;)

i have seen thease from vid... yep.. they are quite "effective"

[jmm001847]

psg-1 sniper or the dragunov svd sniper or the m4 assault rifle the m4 is lightweight, quite durable, ideal for covert ops. or the mp5a4 smg.probly the m4 but i kinda like the ak just for the power.


A great combination is The PSG-1 and M4 that way there you can preform two tasks at once and not run from the enemy to snipe at them just pull your M4 off your shoulder and start taking them down. :cool:

[Pappy]

One problem with the PSG-1 is that it ejects its shells quite a good distance. This makes policing up your shells quite the task. If you're not worried about leaving them behind, then it's a great semi-auto sniper rifle.

[royal marine]

no every serving british soldier except a few has reported to fire at the enemy so i dont know where you got that from mate

[Pappy]

no every serving british soldier except a few has reported to fire at the enemy so i dont know where you got that from mate

What in the world are you even talking about? How does this have any relevance whatsoever?

[royal marine]

how about you move your finger and look for the person im replying to

[Pappy]

How about using the quote feature when replying to a post not directly above yours.

[Common Sence]

Tsar Bomba.....for it's impressiveness.

[Zekos]

Lol ASKUDFALIUDHFSJDF

[Pappy]

"What's your favorite weapon?"

"I don't know, it's a toolbox. You pick the tool for the job."

:D

[Pathfinder UK]

best handgun-----------------desert eagle.....(blows big holes)
best sub-machine gun----------------------SLR used by brits in the falklands
best sniper rifle-----------------------------i cant remeber the name but has infrred scope
best machine gun---------------------------GPMG

The SLR is not an SMG. Do you actually know what an smg is? The SLR stands for self loading rifle and is a 'rifle'.

Favourite Handgun : Browning Hi power
Favourite SMG : MP5 A4 (navy trigger groupings)
Favourite assault rifle : AK47/ M4a1/ Steyr Aug
Favourite sniper rifle : L96A1

[Tacky]

Favourite sniper rifle : L96A1

AI makes an outstanding SWS.

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/408/psg9019ye.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This is my PSG90, which is the Swedish version. I love it

[cadetjohnson]

pistol: beretta
Assualt rifle: m16m203, m4scoped, mp5
Explosive: um....anything that goes boom
Anti-tank: law

[storstark]

AI makes an outstanding SWS.
This is my PSG90, which is the Swedish version. I love it


Yep, nice weapon :)

http://www.soldf.com/images/t_psg90_2.jpg (http://www.soldf.com/images/s_psg90_2.jpg)

http://www.soldf.com/images/t_psg90_3.jpg (http://www.soldf.com/images/s_psg90_3.jpg)

[Common Sence]

Hope no one threw this one out there already.

I just watched a docu. on it the other day and it was amazing.

The EUROFIGHTERTYPHOON.

...explains some strange lights in the sky being able to move around the way it does.

[Morten]

M4 with all the gadgets :D

[Beagle]

Lr-300 Parker, with Tac light and ACOG sight

Also Desert eagle the lovliest handgun around :)

Though if there not available a hot cup of tea will do me :D

Beagle

[Texas]

Hope no one threw this one out there already.

I just watched a docu. on it the other day and it was amazing.

The EUROFIGHTERTYPHOON.

...explains some strange lights in the sky being able to move around the way it does.

I've been watching that thing screaming around the place over at Warton(BAE Factory) , for a few years now . I stop the vehicle and just stare . I think its just unbelievable ,something about the noise and the speed . They really have put it through its paces ! Be interesting to see how it does for real .

[Zekos]

ive never heard of it, please decribe

[Common Sence]

Google it. Info all over the place.

[Common Sence]

0-moch 1 in 30 seconds.

Hold your head back folks'

[razputin]

hello ...new here anyways any1 heard of the SAR 21 ASSUALT RIFLE??? HUH??? HUH!!?!?! well if ur intrested go look it up http://www.mindef.gov.sg/army/main.htm its the singapore army website.And as u might haf guessed iam from singapore:p

[RMCommando]

M4A1 Navy Commando with tactical equipment for sure.

[master101]

the best guns 2 me are umm
the best assult rifle is ak 47 m16 m4
sniper rifle psg1 and the 50 cal (dont know name)
hand gun 45 desert eagle
heavy machine gun m6o saw
best smg is the h&k gun dont know name
best shotgun is the 1 the 82 use or i think its them\
best heavy weopon is bazoka and the m67 and rpg7
best knife i know its not a gun is a kbar

[onep0int]

M4 with Surefire quadrail and tactical light and vertical grip system. Aimpoint comp M3 with an Aimpoint 3X Mag (for those 500+ yard shots;) ), GG&G back up rear and front flip up iron sights, First Samco pistol grip with storage compartment, Vltor collapsable stock, and Surefire suppressor. DAMN!!!! Now thats an assualt rifle!!!!


The best pistol hands down is the 1911.

[razputin]

hmmmmm i jus found out that the sar 21 has like a whole load of different varients and recently the singapore army has been churning out new stuff thats made and is all singapore ill try 2 get a few pics. heres some the one wif the guy running up a hill wif a tank is the shrpshooter veriant i think the others just a normal one wait errrrrmmmm theres no tank in the other pic

[Lenin]

fav assault rifles : AK74-105 Bulgarian varaiant
fav sniper rilfe : SVD Dragunov latest model
fav smg : MP5
fav handgun : MR Desert Eagle (USA)

[Delta Wannabe]

My ideal combat load would be:
M4-a1 SOPMOD 5.56mm
M1911a1 .45 cal.
4 Mark 67 frag grenades
RPG rocket Launcher
Wih A-10's and Little Birds providing air support

[Jim76]

The Tromblon own all http://www.gros-delettrez.com/images/perso/phare/LOT/magie/122.jpg

[Zekos]

M4, simple and it gets the job done

[Zidane]

M1903A4 Springfield.....

[Exo1]

Stwyer, Barret & Mp5.....

[jrj100]

id say the SA80 would be my fav small arm,yeah ive heard the stories but i found it fine in the gulf.next would be the javlin ant-tank weapon its kick ***,hand gun would be the desert eagle without a doubt:cool: :cool:

[Exo1]

id say the SA80 would be my fav small arm,yeah ive heard the stories but i found it fine in the gulf.next would be the javlin ant-tank weapon its kick ***,hand gun would be the desert eagle without a doubt:cool: :cool:

Did they fix the carbon scoring round that was cloggin the SA80 after one mag fire.... I heard the RM Commandos used M16s & H&Ks cos of this. that was a long time ago though... The bullpump design is the best I think for an Infantry weapon...

[jrj100]

Did they fix the carbon scoring round that was cloggin the SA80 after one mag fire.... I heard the RM Commandos used M16s & H&Ks cos of this. that was a long time ago though... The bullpump design is the best I think for an Infantry weapon...yeah that was the 1st version they upgraded 2 the
A2 but its still a pain in the arse aparantly,but i found it fine some lads said it would jam if it got sand in it:rolleyes: not good when your on a beach 2000 miles long and 2000 miles wide and theres iraqis with AKs attacking ya ,the SAS use M16s and MP5s 2

[iranrule]

irans AK 47 best 1

[Exo1]

yeah that was the 1st version they upgraded 2 the
A2 but its still a pain in the arse aparantly,but i found it fine some lads said it would jam if it got sand in it:rolleyes: not good when your on a beach 2000 miles long and 2000 miles wide and theres iraqis with AKs attacking ya ,the SAS use M16s and MP5s 2

Sands a real problem for all weapons, but to be honest, even cleaning all excess oil of the firing rails and block, the grating effect on the parts will cause more jams over time due to damage to moving parts internally. Stwyer has a poly something film to counter this on the firing slide and block..... Mp5 is a great short range weapon, and very accurate on single and most imporantly automatic.... I would go for the Stwyer over the M16 cos of its versitility in all terrains, underwater usability, and record on jams.... I loaded up 5 mags with quater charge blanks (the carbon scoring is 8 times worse then a live round), and no jams until Mag 5.

[trig009]

any one else want to try the STEYR AUG A3, i am looking forward to trying this. with all the options and reports of reliability, not to mention the 680-800 rounds per min.

[SniperAlpha1]

The Steyr is reliable but so is the M-16/M-4. Most assault weapons today are of the sanme reliablitity. When someone deisgns a new weapon (remember, This isn't my opinion, this is a fact) The M-16 is the mark to strive for. It set the standard for an industry for 40 years. It's one hell of a weapon and that's why it's still in use after all this time.

[Exo1]

The Steyr is reliable but so is the M-16/M-4. Most assault weapons today are of the sanme reliablitity. When someone deisgns a new weapon (remember, This isn't my opinion, this is a fact) The M-16 is the mark to strive for. It set the standard for an industry for 40 years. It's one hell of a weapon and that's why it's still in use after all this time.

I prefer the Bullpump design of the Styer, and to be honest, the M16 went through a bad patch in vietnam, too much metal in it... the upgrades lifted the design and performance of the weapon, but to say its setting the mark for 40 years is certainly open to debate.... Back to the 60s, my money would have being on the FN as an assault rifle....

[jmm001847']

Poodle shooter
Glock
PSG-1

[Exo1]

Poodle shooter
Glock
PSG-1


Have fired loads of weapons, the Styer and the MP5 are the ones I was most at home with..... perverabally speaking of course....

[jrj100]

Have fired loads of weapons, the Styer and the MP5 are the ones I was most at home with..... perverabally speaking of course....

mp5 now your talking..... SAS anti-terror weapon of choice.... close quarter stuff .....cant beat it

[SniperAlpha1]

mp5 now your talking..... SAS anti-terror weapon of choice.... close quarter stuff .....cant beat it

Expensive as hell. Almost as much as an assault weapon. That's why HK introduced the UMP. cheaper and fires a harder hitting round.

[Texas]

AK-47 it will always kick *** in short range
I prefer to use my nut . Works every time ;)

[jmm001847']

Yeah UMP is my dads fav. I have never actually fired these weapons but they appeal to me ;)

[high_iq]

the electric laser tank. 3 big guns, no rechanging, no limit on distance it can travel, unlimited range, unlimited fire power. this is no joke either!

[torspo[fin]]

the electric laser tank. 3 big guns, no rechanging, no limit on distance it can travel, unlimited range, unlimited fire power. this is no joke either!

wow. that most be as super as your iq. any links? :D



hmh.. i was thinking of buying Arsenal sar-m1 (http://www.teraasekeskus.com/tuotteet.asp?osasto=kivaarit&pageOffset=&ID=1821). im kinda broke now tough.. well perhaps someday.

anyhows.. the m-16 style rifles are generally good.. only drawback i have heared
is that it eats its own muzzlegasses.. (shooting them back to the lock.)
which the modern AK-based weapons dont do. oh well..
the bad performance in vietnam was perhaps partly due the wrong kind
of ammunation used.. (wrong kind of powder doesnt burnout properly and makes the
weapon jam after limited shots, whiles the vietnamease had AK's.. which most times
shoot everything out what they "ate")

i still think the Sako RK-95 (m95 (http://guns.connect.fi/gow/m92psotr.jpg)) is the best AR there is.. unfortunately its not being produced anymore..
second in line would perhaps be Valmet M82 (http://www.planetrainbowsix.com/modvault/mods/files/resources/Valmet%20M82%20rifle%20pic2%20(Finland).jpg) :D
always going with the homemade stuff am i not?

well G36 is very very nice.
so is AK5..


*ps.. a good american? site about valmet weapons (http://www.valmetweapons.com/).

[onep0int]

mp5 now your talking..... SAS anti-terror weapon of choice.... close quarter stuff .....cant beat it

They may want to look into the 10 inch barreled M4s. Just incase the bad guys are wearing body armor (which can easily stop a 9mm) the 5.56 rounds will rip right through it. And if for some reason you find your self in a situation where you'll need to make further shots, you can always carry a 16 inch barrel with you and switch out.;)

[jrj100]

yeah i had a look at one of those once not bad i have 2 say .....not bad at all:D http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Carbine

[jmm001847']

Well id just carry the 16 inch and a thermal scope iinstead of carrying the 10 inch around to you always got a secondary weapon and i dont think theres body armor around that will stop a bullet to the face (Deagle)

[onep0int]

yeah i had a look at one of those once not bad i have 2 say .....not bad at all:D http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Carbine


Yeah thats the 16" barrel. Check this out.

http://www.dpmsinc.com/images/RFA2-KIT.jpg


This is what I mean by a replacement for the MP5. Our SEALs have already begun shifting out of the MP5 to this version of the M4. Carry an extra 16" barrel and you have the ability to for both extreme close quarters (with the 10") or firefights up to 800 yards (16").

The one in the picture is made by DPMS. I'm sure our military is using modified Colts.

[onep0int]

Well id just carry the 16 inch and a thermal scope iinstead of carrying the 10 inch around to you always got a secondary weapon and i dont think theres body armor around that will stop a bullet to the face (Deagle)

The Desert Eagle is not well suited for combat. It's way to large and bulky. It's a hell of a hunting pistol though. If you're looking to take .50 pistol into combat check out the Model 1. In design it's exactly like a 1911. But shoots a .50.

http://www.guncrafterindustries.com/model1_50gi.shtml

[jrj100]

Yeah thats the 16" barrel. Check this out.

http://www.dpmsinc.com/images/RFA2-KIT.jpg


This is what I mean by a replacement for the MP5. Our SEALs have already begun shifting out of the MP5 to this version of the M4. Carry an extra 16" barrel and you have the ability to for both extreme close quarters (with the 10") or firefights up to 800 yards (16").

The one in the picture is made by DPMS. I'm sure our military is using modified Colts.
nice........makes sense to have the option of the 16" barrel:D covers your arse if circumstances change quickly

[jrj100]

The Desert Eagle is not well suited for combat. It's way to large and bulky. It's a hell of a hunting pistol though. If you're looking to take .50 pistol into combat check out the Model 1. In design it's exactly like a 1911. But shoots a .50.

http://www.guncrafterindustries.com/model1_50gi.shtml

the desert eagle ......well what can i say :D :cool:

[onep0int]

nice........makes sense to have the option of the 16" barrel covers your arse if circumstances change quickly

Yeah that's the thinking behind it. That little M4 is the cutest damn little thing I have ever seen though lol.


the desert eagle ......well what can i say

I've shot an Eagle before, they're pretty nice I just can't see it being used in a combat situation it's way too big. Now for hunting hogs.... :D

[jrj100]

:confused: wastnt the Desert eagle used by American GIs in the 1991 gulf conflict:confused:

[SniperAlpha1]

Don't think so. The Deagle is way to heavy of a gun to carry into combat. 'Sides, There's no need for a back-up weapon to be that powerful.

[Exo1]

Yeah that's the thinking behind it. That little M4 is the cutest damn little thing I have ever seen though lol.




I've shot an Eagle before, they're pretty nice I just can't see it being used in a combat situation it's way too big. Now for hunting hogs.... :D


The Desert Eagle IDF version is the .5.... developed by the IDF for Military use, which shows the ingraned belief in overkill by the IDF... its a silly soliders weapon.... too big.... too powerful and not applicable to any military application.... A 9mm sidearm for close quarter is all thats required..... your main assault weapon jams as you go through the door.... bang.... drop to one knee and before you knee hits the ground, you have your side arm in the firing position to fire..... and let your flanking man take the lead, while you clear your main weapon and take over his position..... what is needed is an accurate high velocity weapon of 9mm calibre as a side Arm, heard the Glocks clog in sand.... like em otherwise.... I would say something like the Baretta or any of the all weather semi auto pistols would do.... Brownings are ok too as they are very reliable, but need an experienced handler...

[jrj100]

Don't think so. The Deagle is way to heavy of a gun to carry into combat. 'Sides, There's no need for a back-up weapon to be that powerful.
thanks....dont know why i throught it was used in desert storm:confused:

[Exo1]

thanks....dont know why i throught it was used in desert storm:confused:


If memory serves... the desert Eagle was upgraded to .5 around that time. if I remember correctly it got some advertising around that time.... think that might have given the impression of a service link to it.... Only if its close quater fighting with a buffalo...:D

[Zidane]

Did you know the average life span of a flamethrower person/tank is like...10 seconds. Because as soon as they use it. Sniper or Sharpshooter n ****'s all "OIC!" and then...BOOM HEADSHOT!

[torspo[fin]]

Did you know the average life span of a flamethrower person/tank is like...10 seconds. Because as soon as they use it. Sniper or Sharpshooter n ****'s all "OIC!" and then...BOOM HEADSHOT!

oh yes.
multikill/rampage
score 200
1up

the princess is in another castle.

[onep0int]

The Desert Eagle IDF version is the .5.... developed by the IDF for Military use, which shows the ingraned belief in overkill by the IDF... its a silly soliders weapon.... too big.... too powerful and not applicable to any military application.... A 9mm sidearm for close quarter is all thats required..... your main assault weapon jams as you go through the door.... bang.... drop to one knee and before you knee hits the ground, you have your side arm in the firing position to fire..... and let your flanking man take the lead, while you clear your main weapon and take over his position..... what is needed is an accurate high velocity weapon of 9mm calibre as a side Arm, heard the Glocks clog in sand.... like em otherwise.... I would say something like the Baretta or any of the all weather semi auto pistols would do.... Brownings are ok too as they are very reliable, but need an experienced handler...

You beat me to it lol!

I prefer a .45, I hear the Marines and the Army are going back to it. Possibly the HK45. I've heard there has been a number of problems with the M9 (9mm Baretta) out in Afgan and Iraq with sand getting into it. I've never been a fan of the M9 though. Then again I'm extremely picky lol I love my 1911s.

[Exo1]

Did you know the average life span of a flamethrower person/tank is like...10 seconds. Because as soon as they use it. Sniper or Sharpshooter n ****'s all "OIC!" and then...BOOM HEADSHOT!

I agree on the 10 second bit, but a sniper will never go for head shot.... its always torso cos of accuracy levels at the operational distances... another reason for large calibre rifles... hit him in the torso and let the round make minced meat of his insides.... A lad from another Irish Battalion bordering on my patrol area when I was in went to Lebannon with IrishBatt and was killed by a Hezbollah sniper using a .5 rifle from half a mile away.... entry through the shoulder socket across his torso, he was dead before he hit the ground...

[jmm001847']

yes headshots are to risky. Most squads have there own sniper and if you miss then because your going for head shot then they get to cover an blow you away

[jmm001847']

ohh i was just jokin bout the deagle heh id want a sidearm that i can get out in less than .5 secs if needed i think deagles way to big to pull out in that ammount of time :D

[Exo1]

You beat me to it lol!

I prefer a .45, I hear the Marines and the Army are going back to it. Possibly the HK45. I've heard there has been a number of problems with the M9 (9mm Baretta) out in Afgan and Iraq with sand getting into it. I've never been a fan of the M9 though. Then again I'm extremely picky lol I love my 1911s.

Haha!!.... good stuff man...:D yea, the H&Ks make good weapons.... Normal 45 auto, fair enough, but those suped up magnam rounds are not my cup of tea.... its two hard to handle when you have like .5 of a second to aim and fire... Normal hollow points are suitable at close quarter...

[Exo1]

yes headshots are to risky. Most squads have there own sniper and if you miss then because your going for head shot then they get to cover an blow you away

Yea, its a real possibility alright... one thing is that SubCalibre rifles will on majority of cases take an enemy down on first shot to torso.... Head shots are never done by snipers.... too risky cos Cover is revealed..... its shot and move...... or if its long range, shot and retire from field.....

[Zidane]

I agree on the 10 second bit, but a sniper will never go for head shot.... its always torso cos of accuracy levels at the operational distances... another reason for large calibre rifles... hit him in the torso and let the round make minced meat of his insides.... A lad from another Irish Battalion bordering on my patrol area when I was in went to Lebannon with IrishBatt and was killed by a Hezbollah sniper using a .5 rifle from half a mile away.... entry through the shoulder socket across his torso, he was dead before he hit the ground...

I know...Unless it's like...a dude looking out a window or somethin...

[Nightflyer]

Hey Exo..
9mm is always an effective side arm. I would prefer it over all others.... still the D Eagle has to be fun to practice with ... .357, .41 .44 and what I would prefer is the .50cal semiauto pistol in black finish with a big bang (to big for the field) only for practice. With a integral lazer scope mount grooved into it's top. Six to ten inch barrel length to cut down on flash and kick. Fast sleek and scaled down compared to the mags.. to do serious damage. Keeps the day from being boring. ;)

[SniperAlpha1]

9mm tends to over penetrate on fleshy targets, This makes it a burden in an urban enviroment. It doesn't have the stopping power to get through even the lightest or ballistic defense. The .45 ACP tends to hit and tumble. Causing a **** load more damage.

[jmm001847']

Hey Exo..
9mm is always an effective side arm. I would prefer it over all others.... still the D Eagle has to be fun to practice with ... .357, .41 .44 and what I would prefer is the .50cal semiauto pistol in black finish with a big bang (to big for the field) only for practice. With a integral lazer scope mount grooved into it's top. Six to ten inch barrel length to cut down on flash and kick. Fast sleek and scaled down compared to the mags.. to do serious damage. Keeps the day from being boring. ;)

LOL if I had the $ id look for a place that would be able to do that for me. Well if I was old enough to purchase it in the first place.

[Zidane]

Oooooh Snap.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Desert-Eagle-chrome-p1030142.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/M60iraq2003.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Garand.jpg

[onep0int]

[QUOTE=Zidane;26779]Oooooh Snap.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/M60iraq2003.jpg

[QUOTE=Zidane;26779]


That one is a Navy Individual Augmentee (Sailors supporting Army or Marine Corps units on the ground) as a gunner. :D I've seen the picture on navy.mil
somewhere. Either a Master at Arms, or a SeaBee I forget which of the 2.

[onep0int]

Haha!!.... good stuff man...:D yea, the H&Ks make good weapons.... Normal 45 auto, fair enough, but those suped up magnam rounds are not my cup of tea.... its two hard to handle when you have like .5 of a second to aim and fire... Normal hollow points are suitable at close quarter...

Yeah I like the .45 ACP 1911 pistols. I'm not too crazy of the magnum rounds except a .44 for hunting. I am curious about the new .454 though, but also for hunting.

[Nightflyer]

Z.........You got it right .Dude.

[Nightflyer]

LOL if I had the $ id look for a place that would be able to do that for me. Well if I was old enough to purchase it in the first place.

Not to bad....young Dude. Good stuff. Nothing wrong with a little flash and kick.Lol

[Zekos]

how about a big stick with a nail in it;)

[Jim76]

the Luger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0313JbAauk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJZnAMIHsgU

the M60

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYXsKPdGf4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaPcWoxm288

and the Famas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRv0zj4O2kQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR72-ZBjxzw

I don't use weapons and I don't know if they are good or bad but I like them :p

[jrj100]

the M60

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYXsKPdGf4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaPcWoxm288


didnt they upgrade the M60 cos of the barrel over-heating??

[jrj100]

the M60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaPcWoxm288


no wonder fish stock piles are running low:D

[Exo1]

the Luger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0313JbAauk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJZnAMIHsgU

the M60

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYXsKPdGf4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaPcWoxm288

and the Famas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRv0zj4O2kQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR72-ZBjxzw

I don't use weapons and I don't know if they are good or bad but I like them :p

Feckin Fish Stock???... What about the birds.... I bet the seagulls have helmuts when flying over France....:D The Famas is a good weapon.... I know some Legionairres who like em alot.... they know there stuff... Never fired it myself.....

Remember doing the Aerial Roll on the GPMP, and when the drone went over, 200 rounds went ahead and man it was great.....

[Exo1]

I know...Unless it's like...a dude looking out a window or somethin...
No lad... if you have a full siloutte at a window, its still a torso shot, cos remember the power of a sniper rifle.... concrete is not an issue, especially for .5 models.... A good soldier on house to house will always fire out from a window 3 foot away from a window in a structure setting. His bobbing around makes counter fire and sniper shot very difficult.... its an old SF trick passed onto our regular training...

[Exo1]

Hey Exo..
9mm is always an effective side arm. I would prefer it over all others.... still the D Eagle has to be fun to practice with ... .357, .41 .44 and what I would prefer is the .50cal semiauto pistol in black finish with a big bang (to big for the field) only for practice. With a integral lazer scope mount grooved into it's top. Six to ten inch barrel length to cut down on flash and kick. Fast sleek and scaled down compared to the mags.. to do serious damage. Keeps the day from being boring. ;)


Hey Nightflyer.... I hear what your saying about the Desert Eagle, the IDF .5 and the American Smaller Cal versions are fun to shot privately, but are too clumsy for effective close quarter use.... You need a small barrel auto, 9mm 45cal with 25 metre zero accuracy.... this should be very accurate and low jams... Some Glocks meet that but I would go for the Cig myself... Overpentrating wounds from 9mm ammo is down to the hollow point round, not the weapon... to be honest, if a bad guy gets a messy chest cos he wants to kill me, I would not lose sleep over it.... Hollow points rarely have exit wounds thus reducing the effect of an exploding wound, and ensuring nobody gets hit in the background of the shot... accidently shooting a civilian is everybodies nightmare.... Never had it myself but I could only imagine.... horrific....

[jrj100]

Feckin Fish Stock???... What about the birds.... I bet the seagulls have helmuts when flying over France....:D The Famas is a good weapon.... I know some Legionairres who like em alot.... they know there stuff... Never fired it myself.....

Remember doing the Aerial Roll on the GPMP, and when the drone went over, 200 rounds went ahead and man it was great.....
lol yeah forgot about the seaguls:D ,,,the famas is good mate...fired it in canada...GPMG...nothing like em

[Exo1]

lol yeah forgot about the seaguls:D ,,,the famas is good mate...fired it in canada...GPMG...nothing like em

Yea, the old reliable GPMG.... saw 1000 rounds fired out of one with relative accuracy, and the barrel was red hot.... literally... changed it hot, and resumed in less then 1 minute..... was sure it was going to melt the firing block face including the firing pin tip.... and guide rods.... but no... it was like an aul *****... it just kept on going.....:D

[torspo[fin]]

Oooooh Snap.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/M60iraq2003.jpg


uuuh lol..

http://tietokannat.mil.fi/kalustoesittely/media/1084858632_ITKK.jpg

[Youngin_Runnin&Gunnin]

I LIKE THE G36K
and the Ak-47 GP 30

[Exo1]

;27094']uuuh lol..

http://tietokannat.mil.fi/kalustoesittely/media/1084858632_ITKK.jpg


HAHA... Thats big boy school!!.....

[jrj100]

;27094']uuuh lol..

http://tietokannat.mil.fi/kalustoesittely/media/1084858632_ITKK.jpg
thats kick arse tor.....30mm???

[torspo[fin]]

thats kick arse tor.....30mm???

the caliber is 12,7 (.50) and the rate of fire is about 13 per second.
country of origin being (suprise) Russia.

also known as NSV (http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg02-e.htm)

[Exo1]

;27161']the caliber is 12,7 (.50) and the rate of fire is about 13 per second.
country of origin being (suprise) Russia.

also known as NSV (http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg02-e.htm)

Yea, I like it, slower firing rate allows for recoil discharge, thus greater accuracy....

[jrj100]

;27161']the caliber is 12,7 (.50) and the rate of fire is about 13 per second.
country of origin being (suprise) Russia.

also known as NSV (http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg02-e.htm)
Afghan fighters were left hundreads of them when the soviets left.....i think?....if its the same gun:confused:

[Exo1]

Afghan fighters were left hundreads of them when the soviets left.....i think?....if its the same gun:confused:

Wouldnt suprise me, I heard they used Russian POWs as trainers, converted them to Islam and married them off into their tribes..... ****e..... Russian Osma.... Scary.....

[jrj100]

Wouldnt suprise me, I heard they used Russian POWs as trainers, converted them to Islam and married them off into their tribes..... ****e..... Russian Osma.... Scary.....
no good at all.....boris bin ladden:eek:

[Exo1]

no good at all.....boris bin ladden:eek:
Even Scarier... a Russian who doesnt drink vodka??....

[torspo[fin]]

Even Scarier... a Russian who doesnt drink vodka??....

Russian without vodka? umm.. letsee. no.
thats impossible. :D

[jrj100]

;27440']Russian without vodka? umm.. letsee. no.
thats impossible. :Dthats right torspo......impossible ...its vodka on cornflakes in Russia:D

[Exo1]

;27440']Russian without vodka? umm.. letsee. no.
thats impossible. :D

Yea, your right, no amount of brainwashing could part them from their vodka.... its like parting an Irishman from his Guinness.... IMPOSSIBLE!!!.....:D

[wise-guy]

rifle m16 with a scope
machine gun mag
sub machine gun p90
anti-tank at-3 sagger 2nd gen 4000 m max.rang
sniper Dragunov SVD
mortar M240- 240mm
howitzer FH-70 - 155mm

[Exo1]

rifle m16 with a scope
machine gun mag
sub machine gun p90
anti-tank at-3 sagger 2nd gen 4000 m max.rang
sniper Dragunov SVD
mortar M240- 240mm
howitzer FH-70 - 155mm

Your useing the P90 now??... When did this happen?... M16s for sure, but never saw your boys with the P90. Thought US Special Ops units were the only ones with those??.... Whats the weapon like to use??

[jrj100]

I didnt know theyd upgraded the Sagger:confused: :confused:

[Kaibil1944]

mmmmm , for me its the Galil Israeli main assault rifle, great gun just great for any circustances.

[wise-guy]

Your useing the P90 now??... When did this happen?... M16s for sure, but never saw your boys with the P90. Thought US Special Ops units were the only ones with those??.... Whats the weapon like to use??

me no i use go ol m16
yeah the jaguar units its like the swats they use p90 and some of the inner security force uses the french FAMAS but mostly m16.

I didnt know theyd upgraded the Sagger :confused: :confused:

we don;t use it , but its my fav weapons cuz it can destroy merkava 4 .


and we don;t use mortar M240- 240mm , its the biggest mortar in the world i think
http://www.lebaneseforces.com/images/weapons/240mm.jpg

[onep0int]

Your useing the P90 now??... When did this happen?... M16s for sure, but never saw your boys with the P90. Thought US Special Ops units were the only ones with those??.... Whats the weapon like to use??

FN works with alot of foreign armies I wouldn't be surprised if the Lebanese Army is using it. I know our Special Ops can use it, but I don't think we actually use it much. With the 7 and 10 inch barreled M4s we really have no use for it. Plus I've heard the terminal effect of the round is that of a .22 Mag.

[jrj100]

If i lived in Leb...i wouldnt mind seeing some of those IDF tanks smoking for sure.....not after what looked like complete carpet bombing of the south.....it looked like a seen from Berlin 1944....not surgical strikes...cluster bombs in popualted areas???....whats that about ......discraceful...damaged the people more the Hezbolha....:rolleyes:

[Exo1]

me no i use go ol m16
yeah the jaguar units its like the swats they use p90 and some of the inner security force uses the french FAMAS but mostly m16.



http://www.lebaneseforces.com/images/weapons/240mm.jpg


Right, so your close quarter teams use it.... The Famas is a good weapon... so some French Foreign Legionairres who swear by it...

Onepoint, hear ya on the effectiveness.... To be honest, I heard it packed a punch.... I must have being wrong so....

[wise-guy]

what is the weapons used in ur country Exo1

[torspo[fin]]

what is the weapons used in ur country Exo1

they use thease (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as20-e.htm) among others..

[Exo1]

what is the weapons used in ur country Exo1

Yes, Torps is right, we use the Styer AUG as our main assault rifle..... Its a modified version, factory model have it on full auto only. Our Army Engineers installed an ELO in the trigger, which allows for single shot use aswell, better for firefights, and very easy to switch to auto in the blink of an eye. Its hte best assault rifle I ever used..... a real reliable piece of kit...

For our Regular work when I was there, we used the GPMG 7.62 Fire Support Weapon, Vickers .5 inch Heavy Machine Gun, Browning Automatic Pistol (BAP). Oh we use the A84mm Gustav which was being phased out by the Milan when I left. Talk of the LAW being bought aswell?... dunno where that went... We would have used alot of the field weapons in Lebannon (IrishBatt, UNIFIL), when we were there. Your colleagues who worked alongside us would know the above...

[onep0int]

Yes, Torps is right, we use the Styer AUG as our main assault rifle..... Its a modified version, factory model have it on full auto only. Our Army Engineers installed an ELO in the trigger, which allows for single shot use aswell, better for firefights, and very easy to switch to auto in the blink of an eye. Its hte best assault rifle I ever used..... a real reliable piece of kit...

For our Regular work when I was there, we used the GPMG 7.62 Fire Support Weapon, Vickers .5 inch Heavy Machine Gun, Browning Automatic Pistol (BAP). Oh we use the A84mm Gustav which was being phased out by the Milan when I left. Talk of the LAW being bought aswell?... dunno where that went... We would have used alot of the field weapons in Lebannon (IrishBatt, UNIFIL), when we were there. Your colleagues who worked alongside us would know the above...

The Styer AUG is a very reliable and accurate rifle. I have shot it (a semi automatic version) however I have found it to be uncomfortable in the sense of where the magazine goes. It takes some getting used to. I'm glad your engineers modified it into semi auto as well. I can only imagine that a rifle that is purely fully automatic is mostly useless. Organized units don't pray and spray lol. Semi automatic has many uses. Infact most of my friends that have been to Iraq and Afgan have said they used their weapons in semi auto more than any other mode (auto, 3 round burst).


Browning Automatic Pistol (BAP)

Thats the Browning Hi Power isn't it? Hell of a design!!!

[Apache7]

Yes, Torps is right, we use the Styer AUG as our main assault rifle..... Its a modified version, factory model have it on full auto only. Our Army Engineers installed an ELO in the trigger, which allows for single shot use aswell, better for firefights, and very easy to switch to auto in the blink of an eye. Its hte best assault rifle I ever used..... a real reliable piece of kit...

For our Regular work when I was there, we used the GPMG 7.62 Fire Support Weapon, Vickers .5 inch Heavy Machine Gun, Browning Automatic Pistol (BAP). Oh we use the A84mm Gustav which was being phased out by the Milan when I left. Talk of the LAW being bought aswell?... dunno where that went... We would have used alot of the field weapons in Lebannon (IrishBatt, UNIFIL), when we were there. Your colleagues who worked alongside us would know the above...So you use British weapons then???.....best for the job aint they!!!

[torspo[fin]]

So you use British weapons then???.....best for the job aint they!!!

while L85A2 is accurate.. (and it has that to thank due to the 4X SUSAT and the bullup desing in general)
it totally sucks in another measures. its nowhere near the capability of the Steyr.
and its nowhere near our RK aither.. the thing is that.. well..
its just bad what ive heared.. granted.. i have not shot one my self but
when its said allaround that the ****ing handle can bruise your arm
and the top cover is badly made and you can actually brake the thing by dropping it...
well thats just very sub standard.

[Exo1]

The Styer AUG is a very reliable and accurate rifle. I have shot it (a semi automatic version) however I have found it to be uncomfortable in the sense of where the magazine goes. It takes some getting used to. I'm glad your engineers modified it into semi auto as well. I can only imagine that a rifle that is purely fully automatic is mostly useless. Organized units don't pray and spray lol. Semi automatic has many uses. Infact most of my friends that have been to Iraq and Afgan have said they used their weapons in semi auto more than any other mode (auto, 3 round burst).




Thats the Browning Hi Power isn't it? Hell of a design!!!



Yea, single shot is so important in fire fight... Its accuracy is great, and reliable too...

The browning we use has the same stopping power as the MP5 upto 30 yards.... Its a good weapon, but has had its day, theres an upgrade going through..... dunno what the replacement weapon will be yet...

[Exo1]

So you use British weapons then???.....best for the job aint they!!!

If you are referring to the Vickers .5 Heavy Machine gun, then yes we do and yes, they are very effective as a heavy machine gun, reliable to, not many jams.... The browning is good, but has had its day, dunno what the upgrade will be though....

[Jim76]

training Famas launcher, oops lol :D
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xehm6_tirflg

[Exo1]

training Famas launcher, oops lol
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xehm6_tirflg

Haha.... Great one Jimbo....:D I remember taking my first shot with a FN many many years ago... I didnt have it tucked into my shoulder and bang feckin rifle butt hit me in the face.... man.. I was like your lad there.... feeling silly and bruised... :D

[Jim76]

Poor guy, a great moment of loneliness for him :s

[jrj100]

training Famas launcher, oops lol :D
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xehm6_tirflg
Nice one Jim.......funny stuff...thats going to sting in the morning:D