APCs and other armored multi-role vehicles.

[torspo[fin]]

thread to compare properties of apcs and other multirole armored vehicles. :)


http://www.army-technology.com/projects/patria/images/patria1.jpg

Patria AMV (ArmoredModularVehicle)
specs:

Length 7.7m
Height over hull 2.3m
Width 2.9m
Track width 2.45m

Weights
Weight 14,000kg to 25,000kg
Power to weight ratio 15kW to 20kW per ton

Engines

Engine power 360kW
Torque output 1,974Nm
Automatic forward gears 7
Reverse gear 1

Performance

Maximum speed >100km/h
Forward slope 60%
Side slope 30%
Step 0.7m
Trench width 2.0m
Swimming speed, weight <22,000kg 8km/h to 10km/h
Fording depth 1.5m
Range 800km
Armour protection 7.62 AP, 30mm APFSDS

more information:

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/patria/

will be in service: 2008 (in Finland)

[capwil]

I'm in the Canadian Forces (reserves) and my company generally gets the use of old rundown multi-million mile deuces from the 60's-70's! Once and a while I'll get lucky and have the use of a LAVIII.

I own several vehicles, of which are two Dodge Spirits (1992, 1993), Dodge Durango (1999 SLT 5.9L , 2000 R/T 5.9L), Ford Taurus 1999 2V 3.0L V6.

My '99 Durango is outfitted with 35" tires, 6" suspension lift w/ bilstein adjustable shocks, full light/bumber guard, light bar with four 5" offroad lights. towing package, custom twin oil filter system, larger oil pan and transmission pan, and a lower temp thermostat. I'm not sure of the fording ability, but it's over 17" for sure (tested on a creek). Plus many other extras. It's definately a multi-role vehicle, but armoured, it is not!

I take it with me whenever I go on base for field exercises. Most of my fellow officers, and NCO's try to travel with me instead of on the 5 ton 6x6. I can go anywhere in the snow. Never had a problem with it (yet). One of my platoon sergeants wants me to cut out a section in the roof and add a turrent.... I laughed.

My company is lucky to see the use of even one LAVIII. Most of the time they're getting repaired, or upgraded to newer standards and/or technologies. Just like our Sea King helicopters, but not that bad...yet.

The only thing I dislike is getting woken up at 3am (after a hevy snowfall) in the barracks by the duty NCO, asking me if I'm able to pull some cars from the parking lot behind the building, onto the road so they can get to their post. Ha.

[British and proud]

When I was in Canada I rented a 2004 Dodge Durango. They are very smooth machines. I know im slightly off topic but couldnt ignore the gud ald Dodge durango.

[torspo[fin]]

nice car that Durango.. i drive drive around in a real tank my self (Fiat punto mk2 -00 :D)
oh yes.. once i noticed that pine tree had fallen down to the road (small forrest road)
so i decided to drive over it.. no problems there.. but the tree was resting on some
electric cables and fonelines.. i think i managed to cut power to several houses nearby..
whoops. dumdidum :rolleyes:


but anyhows.. that Patria AVM is the new model and will be in use in 3 years...

nowadays we go around with thease:

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/xa200/

[British and proud]

Here's the list of armored vehicles in the British army

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/av/index.html

[capwil]

Well, at least the major allied powers use new equipment. We, Canadians, on the other hand, purchase all the second hand equipment. Still, we do have a list of vehicles/wepaons we use at www.dnd.ca

I'll stick with my durango. At least I can trust it over 60mph.

[storstark]

Hägglunds Vehicle's
SEP (Swedish abbreviation for “Splitterskyddad EnhetsPlattform" ) Modular Armoured Tactical System

http://www.haggve.se/Images/high/SEP_W_and_T_pic1.jpg

Background:
The modular design allows the vehicle to be configured for more than twenty different roles including armoured personnel carrier, command post, ambulance, medical vehicle, anti-tank missile system, anti aircraft missile system, mortar vehicle, reconnaissance, forward observation vehicle, nuclear, biological and chemical warfare decontamination centre, mine clearing and mine scattering, recovery and repair, communication post, radar, electronic warfare.

The electric transmission system (the drive shafts have been replaced by cable and the power from the engines is transferred by cable) gives a number of advantages, including volume efficiency, fuel efficiency, reduced life cycle costs, reduced environmental impact and increased stealth characteristics. The engine is decoupled from the final drives allowing flexibility in the placing of systems in the vehicle and also easily allows two engines to be installed instead of one. Batteries are integrated into the electric drive system, which allow the vehicle to be driven silently for several hours with the engines shut down.


Specifications:

Crew: 2
Number of soldiers, APC role: 12 soldiers

Dimensions:
Length: 5.9m
Height, tracked SEP: 1.9m
Height, wheeled SEP: 2.0m

Performance:
Forward speed, tracked SEP: 85km/h
Forward speed, wheeled SEP: 100km/h
Operational life 30 years
Air transportable: Within C-130 envelope

More information:
http://www.haggve.se/stdpage.asp?Pid=12
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/SEP

Some pictures:
http://www.mss.mil.se/photo.php?id=81256&nid=23855
http://www.p4.mil.se/photo.php?id=71998&nid=21409

[torspo[fin]]

Ah. welcome to the forum "neighbor" :)

seems pritty nice gear for the nordic terrain.. kinda similar
to the Patria AVM. Lower characteristics tough.

"mortar vehicle"? hm. this probably means the Patria-Hägglunds
AMOS mortar system i'd recon.

fine engineerin. ;)

[storstark]

Thanks ;)

I suppose they mean the AMOS. It is highly plausible that they will develop a AMOS-SEP, as SEP being probably the no1 prio for the company.



Some pictures of the Humwee-killer :) Galten (RG-32M) now being tested by the Swedish army, to be used in the new Nordic Battle Group.

Porn :P
http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/Galten.jpg
http://www.greenfaces.se/upload/uploads/pict0157.jpg
http://www.greenfaces.se/upload/uploads/pict0158.jpg
http://www.greenfaces.se/upload/uploads/pict0161.jpg
http://www.greenfaces.se/upload/uploads/pict0162_1.jpg
http://www.livgardet.mil.se/photo.php?id=97319&nid=28025
http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/41/14/87/ob463.jpg
http://www.aftonbladet.se/bil/0506/24/NYHETER-24s12-galteninne-645_368.jpg
http://www.aftonbladet.se/bil/0506/24/NYHETER-24s12-galtenNY-665_368.jpg
video: http://www.aftonbladet.se/atv/player.html?catID=10&clipID=1413

Information: http://www.defense-update.com/products/r/RG-32M.htm
http://www.alvis.plc.uk/news/NewsItem.cfm?id=200180

[torspo[fin]]

Some pictures of the Humwee-killer :) Galten (RG-32M) now being tested by the Swedish army, to be used in the new Nordic Battle Group.


jätte bra! :D

[storstark]

Kyllä se on hyvää :)

12min long movie (119MB)
Mirror 1: http://82.182.22.137/test_galten_2skv05.WMV
Mirror 2: http://pannben.csbnet.se/soldf/test_galten_2skv05.zip

The sound quality is really crappy, but it's quite cool anyway.

[SoldierofAmerica]

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/stryker/images/stryker_3.jpg

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/stryker/images/stryker_6.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/stryker/

Key Data
Crew 2 (driver, commander) + 9 troops for ICV: 3 (driver, commander, gunner) for MGS
Dimensions
Length 275in
Width 107in
Height 104in
Fully equipped weight 36,240lb (ICV), 41,300lb (MGS)
Weapons
ICV 0.50-caliber M2 machine gun, MK19 40 mm grenade launcher or MK240 7.62mm machine gun; 4 x M6 smoke grenade launchers
Mobile Gun System M68A1E4 105 mm cannon, M2 0.50 calibre machine gun; 2 x M6 smoke grenade launchers
Performance
Road speed 62mph (100 km/h)
Range 312 miles (502.11 km)
Max trench crossing 6.5ft
Acceleration 50m <8.0sec
Forward Slope 60%
Side Slope 30%
Step Climbing 23in
Air transportability C-130, C-5, C-17
Communications
SINCGARS (Single-Channel Ground and Airborne Radio System) radios
Raytheon AN/TSQ-158 Enhanced Position Location Reporting System (EPLRS)
Squad leaders video display terminal
FBCB2 Computer (Commander)
Navigation Rockwell Collins AN/PSN-11 PLGR precision lightweight GPS receiver
Propulsion
Engine 350hp
Transmission 6 speeds forward, 1 reverse
Transfer case 2 speed
Differentials 4 automotive
Suspension 8 wheel hydropneumatic
Tyres Central tyre inflation system with runflats
Brakes Power brakes with ABS on rear three axles

[storstark]

Intresting with the Remote Weapon Station, same construction as the swedish LEMUR. Too bad that they don't have lika a 20mm automatic cannon installed on it. 0.5 ain't that tough.

[torspo[fin]]

the amphibious capability is necessary for FDF. since we have something like 100 000 lakes here..
it gives huge tactical advantage in Finnish terrain. The AMV is also capable to
carry weaponsystems ranging from machineguns to granade machineguns,
30mm turret to AMOS... tough AMOS takes away the ability to "swim".
Patria AMV can also carry armor against 30mm armour piercing APFSDS (SABOT) rounds.
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/patria/images/patria3.jpg
Patria AMV "Swimming"






Stryker is fine vehicle.. the MGS variant is a "slight" overshoot..
again one case of "everything is big in america" :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/US_Mobile_Gun_System.jpg

hoho.. well.. you dont really know if it works till you test it.
:rolleyes:

[jrj100]

I like the bison its a canadian av not such about APCs or IFVs with wheels i like them 2 have tracks