Join the US-Army as a german.

[usafan]

Hi I am a new member.I have a question.I would like to join the us-army.But I am a german.

I am a 16 years old guy.
I will go about 1 and 1/2 years to school..
I would like to know what opportunities I have at the us-army.Which suppositions I need?
Which education is necessary? What kind of Job can I make as a german?Which educations are vantaged?
Can I make a education in the us-army? I hope you can help me.




Regards,

usafan

[js_mac]

What the bloody hell is wrong with you? Are you not proud of the German military history? I know some Germans who would hang you for treason-talk like that. You need to think before you open your mouth - i can guarantee you that that thought is based on what american films say about their military, whether you realise it or not.
As for answering your question, the state of your english answers that for you.

[usafan]

I hate germany,okay.I love america.So I would join the us-army.Can help somebody?

[torspo[fin]]

I hate germany,okay.I love america.So I would join the us-army.Can help somebody?

i strongly recommend that you go trough those 1 and ½ years of school first
and then ask yourself the same question again...

and maybe think about it like ½ years..
then you'll be in the age of making such decisions.

i have seen this before.. sad cases of young minds too strongly influenced by
american media.

[Jeremy47167]

What the bloody hell is wrong with you? Are you not proud of the German military history? I know some Germans who would hang you for treason-talk like that. You need to think before you open your mouth - i can guarantee you that that thought is based on what american films say about their military, whether you realise it or not.
As for answering your question, the state of your english answers that for you.

Man he's on here asking for help, not your oppinion of how he should feel. As far as that goes it sounds like you should contact a recruiter.

-Jeremy

[Harrington]

ha.. i'm american and i would rather join the German army than U.S.. but i'm still going into Marines

[Tacky]

If you want to join the US military, you'll have to become a legal-resident. This is only to enlist, if you want to become an officer, you will have to be a US citizen.

The US Army will offer you most of the same opportunities as an American citizen. I say most, because many sensitive MOSes and positions will not be open to you.

Educational benefits will also be the same, you will be allowed to attend school, on your own time, while enlisted - but depending on your MOS, the classes you are able to take may be few and far between.

Immigrating can be a pretty long, tedius and expensive process. It cost me tons of money, a lot of time burried in paper work - but in the end, it was well worth it. You have a few years yet, keep your mind open to all opportunities - and don't get snagged down with wanting to do ONE certain thing.

To those of you attempting to slam this individual for wanting to join the US military, perhaps you should take a step back and give the kid a break. There is nothing wrong with wanting to immigrate to another country and serve in their military. While the Germany army is well trained and professional, so is the US Army. He may very well change his mind once he is older, there is no reason to berate him for his dreams at this time. In other words, chill the ***** out.

[Shuriken]

I believe you need a "greencard"(?) to work in the U.S as anything. Including military.(?)

However I must say I am intrigued as to why you would not like to join the german specials. The KSK are one of the greatest military orginisations in the world, at the current moment they are serving in Afganistan (Yes, the germans are involved to those who think they are merely spectators).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1854187.stm

But if you wish to try a foreign military by all means do not let anyone else stop you.

[Ex-USMC]

You can join the US military and NOT be a citizen i met quite a few people (mostly mexicans) with no greencard yet and they were in the US marines... I'm not sure if they were in the process of getting they're green card or not though

[Tacky]

You cannot legally join the US military without legal residency status. That is the law. Have some managed to bypass in the past? Yes. Before 9/11 immigrants were not looked at as strictly as they are now. I would not, however, recommend anyone attempting to join the US military do so illegally. Not only do you gamble your military career, but you also gamble with your chance to become a US citizen.


Citizenship

While there is a statutory requirement that only a United States Citizen may become a commissioned officer, this is not true for enlistment. Certain non-citizens can enlist in the United States Armed Forces. To be eligible to enlist, a non-citizen must:


(1) Entered the United States on a permanent residence visa or has an Alien Registration Receipt Card (INS Form 1-551/I-551 greencard or stamped I-94), and

(2) Established a bona fide residence, and

(3) Established a home of record in the United States.

The visa and/or "greencard" must have sufficient time remaining on it (expiration date) to be valid during the entire term on enlistment. While non-citizens may enlist in the U.S. Military, they are not allowed to reenlist (stay in beyond their first term of service), unless they first become U.S. citizens.

Call any recruiter from any of the five branches (Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Army, Coast Guard) and they will confirm this for you.

The military will NOT help you with your legal resident status or citizenship, but military service can help you expidite your citizenship thanks to a directive from the POTUS after 11 September 2001.

[kraut :-)]

hallo usafan
sag mal was geht mit deinem gehirn?
wenn du in die armee willst dann geh gefälligst in die deutsche armee!
ich glaube du hast zu viele micheal dudikoff filme auf prosieben gesehen.
bist du nicht stolz ein deutscher zu sein?
klar haben wir ein paar schlechte stellen in unsere geschichte aber es ist dein vaterland
ausserdem werden die amerikander keinen in ihre armee aufnehmen der nichtmal stolz auf sein eigenes land ist!
so und jetzt werd mal was erwachsener und komm in 2 jahren wieder wenn du ein paar haare am sack hast.
schönen tag noch

translation:
are you crazy
if u want to join an arm join the german one
i think u to much michael dudkoff movies on tv
arent u proud to be a german?
off course our history is bad at some partsbuts ur homecountry
also i dont the the amricans will let someone join thir army thats not proud of his own country
now
grow a little and come back when you have some hair on your balls

have a nice day

[jmm001847]

First of all This man only asked a question SO BACK OFF of him you panzy's LOL anyway do as tacky said and you'll be fine. NM the panzy's that will always try to put you down :)

[sweetashoney]

Hey Kraut,

nur weil jemand irgendwelche, vielleicht dir utopisch vorkommenden, Traeume hat, muss man nicht gleich so ausfaellig werden. Die von dir benutzte Ausdruckweise muss wirklich nicht sein! Ueberleg doch mal, wie du mit 14/15/16 warst, hast du da nicht mehr von einer rosigen Zukunft getraeumt? Ich schon, naemlich in den Staaten zu leben. Rate mal, was passiert ist! Ich hab meinen Traum verwirklicht!!!

Klar, jeder darf seine Meinung frei aeußern(auch du und ich), aber bitte unterlasse doch diese Ausdruckweise! DANKESCHOEN!!!!

For everyone else: Sorry I was just so mad and couldn't focus on writing in English. In case anyone is interested in what I was saying, feel free to contact me ;)

[kraut :-)]

dam i made a double post

[kraut :-)]

na ja wenn ihr alle nach amiland wollt
bitte
lasst euch nicht aufhalten
ich finds da übrigens auch sehr schön!
florida ist einfach hammer (spring break)
ich finds auch toll das du deinen traum verwirklicht hast
wie biste denn an die green cars gekommen?
mir gehts einfach darum das der gute lieber in die bundeswehr gehen sollte
da wäre er sicher besser aufgehoben
und so schlimm waren meine "ausdrücke" nun auch wieder nicht
bleibende psychische schäden wird er wohl nicht davontragen

ich will gar nicht wissen was hier im forum los ist wenn ein ami sagt er will in die bundeswehr
da war mein post noch freundlich

so
feel free to answer, i like discussions

[blazemonger]

I hate germany,okay.I love america.So I would join the us-army.Can help somebody?

Why do you hate Germany?
Does Germany have no more liberty or something?



Man I'm American and I have respect for Germany's scientists and mathemeticians

[Morten]

a year or so ago i was thinking about leaving and join the american army too...

i dont really know if u really need a greencard to work for the american army! in Iraq a couple of danish soldiers are being transferred to Baghdad (their own decission) and then they work under the american chain of command! :)

u guys really need to understand that this "decission" doesn't neccesarely mean that he HATES hes country... he might just not like how it operates... :/

[Tacky]

a year or so ago i was thinking about leaving and join the american army too...

i dont really know if u really need a greencard to work for the american army! in Iraq a couple of danish soldiers are being transferred to Baghdad (their own decission) and then they work under the american chain of command! :)

u guys really need to understand that this "decission" doesn't neccesarely mean that he HATES hes country... he might just not like how it operates... :/

Yes, you need to be a legal resident to join the US Army as an enlisted member. You need to be a citizen to join as an officer.

We often allow foreign soldiers to attend our schools as well as have them serve under our command in certain circumstances. Many countries do the same for us.

[Zeus185]

i read somwhere the U.S army snaps up people who have served in the British army especially the elite units like the paras royal marines,ect in the CQB by mike curtis(one of the best books iv read by the way)he discoverd that the delta force guys got almost 3 times as much as he got:eek: (he was in the paras and SAS and trained with U.S forces on a few occasions)so i can understand the appeal

[atberlin]

I asked first in german for Kraut.

Lieber Kraut.

Genau wegen Menschen wie dir, möchte ich in die USA gehen und dort zuur US Army. Ich habe schon damals in der Berlin Brigade über drei Jahre gedient. Das Deutschland, dass es heute ist , dass ist nicht mehr meine Heimat. Dieser Anti Amerikanismus geht mir gegen den Strich. Ewig wird etwas vermutet oder behauptet, dass sich nacher als Zeitungsente raus stellte. Hauptsache erstmal raus damit und schön Propaganda machen. Ich mag diese Vereinigung nicht, ich mag diese EX DDR ler nicht. Wegen die steht Deutschland jetzt da, wo es ist. Am Boden.

Was ist an der bundeswehr interessant? Kannst du mir das sagen? Außer das die Bundeswehr geheime Einsätze macht, deutsche KSKler sterben und keiner in Deutschland weiß, dass in Afghanistan deutsche Soldaten sterben? Diese Deutschland und die Regierung ist eine einzige Lüge. Warum meinst du, wurde der Einsatz im Afghanistan vor der neuen Regierungsbildung verlängert? Warum meinst du, wurde das Deutsche Kontingent nun Enduring Freedom unterstellt?

Du weißt sehr wenig Kraut, über dein Land. Ich gönne dir dein Deutschland. Aber ohne mich. Mir fehlt in Deutschland diese Loyalität und die Dankbarkeit zu den USA, für ihre 44 jahrelange Hilfe und Unterstützung. Wo ist sie nur geblieben?



Dear Kraut !

Exactly because of person like you, I would like to go in the USA and join the US Army. I have served even then in Berlin brigade more than three years. Germany that today it is, that is no more my country. This Anti Americanism goes for me against the line. Forever it is supposed a little bit or maintained that it positioned itself after as a canard out. Central issue do first out with it and nicely propaganda. I do not like this union. i dont like east germany.

What is interesting in bundeswehr? Can you say to me this? Except the applications confidential the armed forces do, German KSKler die and nobody in Germany knows that in Afghanistan German soldiers die? This Germany and the government is one single lie. Why do you mean, was the application extended in Afghanistan before the new government education? Why do you mean, was the German contingent subordinated now Enduring Freedom?

You know very littleKraut, about your land. I grant your Germany to you. But without me. I lack in Germany this loyalty and the gratitude to the USA, for her 44 many years' help and support. Where has she only remained?

[sweetashoney]

@Kraut

Sorry, I really need to apologize! I was a little harsh to you in my last post. But I am sure you were able to cope with it;)
I actually had to laugh out loud when I saw that you had added an English translation to your post- that's SO funny(I totally mean it!).
So, what are you doin' at the airport? Are you going to college? No, it's not what it might look like:rolleyes: ... your personal informations just made me a little curious. Since I am a little nosy at some times, I just had to ask you!

@atberlin
It's incredible that you served for the US Army in Germany. I couldn't believe when I was reading it. It must have been a very interesting time in your life! WOW!!! Go atberlin! Good luck in getting into the Army!!!

[kraut :-)]

@sweet honey
well thats no problem i was harsh at that young man too
actually im not workin there anymore at the moment i am working at the butzweilerhof rebuildingone of the oldest airport of germany. it was build 1937
i know why it is so funny (my translation) many errros in it huh?


@atberlin
ersteimal ich WEISS das in afghanistan deutsche soldaten sterben
schon mal was von tageschau gehört?:p
und unsere regirung ist Keine lüge!
sie ist von uns gewählt wie die in deinem tollen amerika
warum das deutsche kontingent unter enduring freedom steht?
das ist ein nato einsatz die truppen dort isaf stehen alle unter nato befehl
die nato ist ein staatenbund in dem auch deutschland ist
warum sollten wir da unten usere eigenen brötchen backen eh?
so lässt sich das leichter organiesieren

und wenn du mal ne regierung sehen willst die viel lügt dann schau dir mal den guten geroge W bush an
hey irak hat massenvernichtungswaffen
wir muessen einmarschieren
waffen?
pustekuchen
ÖL?
bingo!
ich habe nichts gegen amerika und anti amerikanuism ist das produkt von george bush.
jeder deutsche der nicht dumm im kopf ist weiss was die amis alles für uns getan haben.
heim der mutigen land der freien !
sie waren eines der ersten länder mir demokratischer verfassung mit der würdigung der menscherechte.
aber wenn bush so viel mist baut muss er sich nicht wunderen das er sich unbeliebt macht

translation(from now on i only write in english this is too much work)

first off all i KNOW that german soldiers die in afghanistan!
have u heard about news on tv ?
our government is no lie
it has been elected (?) just like the amercan one
germany is under endurinmg freedom because ist a nato mission.. the troops there (isaf) is under nato command
germany is in the nato
so why should we go down there and do our own stuff without allies, hmm?
that way its easier to oranise alll that.

if u want to see a government that lies that look an at george bush
hey irak has weapons of mass destuction
we have to march in
weapons of mass destruction?
hell no
fuel
bingo!

i really like america and antiameranism is the product of george bush
every german that is not completely stupid knows how much america did for us
they where on of the first countrys with a democratic constitution
home of the brave land of the free!
but if bush does so much bull**** he hasnt to wonder why everyone hates him

[Zeus185]

@Kraut

Sorry, I really need to apologize! I was a little harsh to you in my last post. But I am sure you were able to cope with it
I actually had to laugh out loud when I saw that you had added an English translation to your post- that's SO funny(I totally mean it!).
So, what are you doin' at the airport? Are you going to college? No, it's not what it might look like:rolleyes: ... your personal informations just made me a little curious. Since I am a little nosy at some times, I just had to ask you!

@atberlin
It's incredible that you served for the US Army in Germany. I couldn't believe when I was reading it. It must have been a very interesting time in your life! WOW!!! Go atberlin! Good luck in getting into the Army!!!


i women thats nosy.............and here i thought there wasent such a thing:p

[Jim76]

@sweet honey
well thats no problem i was harsh at that young man too
actually im not workin there anymore at the moment i am working at the butzweilerhof rebuildingone of the oldest airport of germany. it was build 1937
i know why it is so funny (my translation) many errros in it huh?


@atberlin
ersteimal ich WEISS das in afghanistan deutsche soldaten sterben
schon mal was von tageschau gehört?:p
und unsere regirung ist Keine lüge!
sie ist von uns gewählt wie die in deinem tollen amerika
warum das deutsche kontingent unter enduring freedom steht?
das ist ein nato einsatz die truppen dort isaf stehen alle unter nato befehl
die nato ist ein staatenbund in dem auch deutschland ist
warum sollten wir da unten usere eigenen brötchen backen eh?
so lässt sich das leichter organiesieren

und wenn du mal ne regierung sehen willst die viel lügt dann schau dir mal den guten geroge W bush an
hey irak hat massenvernichtungswaffen
wir muessen einmarschieren
waffen?
pustekuchen
ÖL?
bingo!
ich habe nichts gegen amerika und anti amerikanuism ist das produkt von george bush.
jeder deutsche der nicht dumm im kopf ist weiss was die amis alles für uns getan haben.
heim der mutigen land der freien !
sie waren eines der ersten länder mir demokratischer verfassung mit der würdigung der menscherechte.
aber wenn bush so viel mist baut muss er sich nicht wunderen das er sich unbeliebt macht

translation(from now on i only write in english this is too much work)

first off all i KNOW that german soldiers die in afghanistan!
have u heard about news on tv ?
our government is no lie
it has been elected (?) just like the amercan one
germany is under endurinmg freedom because ist a nato mission.. the troops there (isaf) is under nato command
germany is in the nato
so why should we go down there and do our own stuff without allies, hmm?
that way its easier to oranise alll that.

if u want to see a government that lies that look an at george bush
hey irak has weapons of mass destuction
we have to march in
weapons of mass destruction?
hell no
fuel
bingo!

i really like america and antiameranism is the product of george bush
every german that is not completely stupid knows how much america did for us
they where on of the first countrys with a democratic constitution
home of the brave land of the free!
but if bush does so much bull**** he hasnt to wonder why everyone hates him

not really anti-americanism it's more anti-bushism, europeans make a difference between americans and there government.

[sweetashoney]

i women thats nosy.............and here i thought there wasent such a thing:p

LOL, you're funny! :-)
Being nosy actually makes you smart;)

[Zeus185]

LOL, you're funny! :-)
Being nosy actually makes you smart;)


ah i see........so gossiping just lets women exercise there mouth too.....i think im begining
to understand :p

[sweetashoney]

ah i see........so gossiping just lets women exercise there mouth too.....i think im begining
to understand :p

Exactly!!!
How did you know? I think you made it to the next level of how to understand women! Way to go!!!:)

[Zeus185]

Exactly!!!
How did you know? I think you made it to the next level of how to understand women! Way to go!!!:)


well i dont mind that.......as long as i dont have to go shoping for five hours with them...........that just scares the hell outa me :eek:

[kraut :-)]

well i dont mind that.......as long as i dont have to go shoping for five hours with them...........that just scares the hell outa me


:D
me too my friend
or waiting for them to dress when going out to a disco:cool:

[TopGun]

I hate germany,okay.I love america.So I would join the us-army.Can help somebody?
We need to get rid of traitors like you who hate their own country.

[GOD]

Was ist es hat erhalten, mit Ihnen zu machen?

[TopGun]

Was ist es hat erhalten, mit Ihnen zu machen?
Er wollte Deutschland verraten. Das kann ich nicht ignorieren.

[kraut :-)]

Was ist es hat erhalten, mit Ihnen zu machen?.
if you like you can say that in english.
i dont know what you mean with that.

[Jim76]

In the past Germans was often useful as mercenaries in foreign armies, a german in US army why not 8) , but request if that's possible to be paid in gold and females usafan xD

[atberlin]

Er wollte Deutschland verraten. Das kann ich nicht ignorieren.


@Topgun

Was soll der Spruch denn? Oh Mann, immer diese Superpatrioten.

[Zeus185]

In the past Germans was often useful as mercenaries in foreign armies, a german in US army why not 8) , but request if that's possible to be paid in gold and females usafan xD



hahahahahahahaha lol :D