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Camouflage Patters, Digital
After the cease of the BDU pattern and everything went digital I wonder why all branches dont integrate to suit the needs and environment of the soldiers. Understandably ACU in Afghanistan has had good reviews but why dosent the Army use the USMC tan MARPAT in Iraq? Along with the army doing new testing on camo the MULTICAM dosent look too bad but nowadays its getting crazy with the USAF tigerstripe and im not even gonna go into the crazy USN Blue digital granted it looks sick wont help much unless your hiding in the ocean.
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11-06-2009, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 13bangbang
After the cease of the BDU pattern and everything went digital I wonder why all branches dont integrate to suit the needs and environment of the soldiers. Understandably ACU in Afghanistan has had good reviews but why dosent the Army use the USMC tan MARPAT in Iraq? Along with the army doing new testing on camo the MULTICAM dosent look too bad but nowadays its getting crazy with the USAF tigerstripe and im not even gonna go into the crazy USN Blue digital granted it looks sick wont help much unless your hiding in the ocean.
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I was talking to a buddy who's in the 173rd. They were issued MULTICAM for their most recent rotation.
When I used MARPAT, it always worked well. BWT in the woods with the Woodland MARPAT was a cinch.
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11-07-2009, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 13bangbang
After the cease of the BDU pattern and everything went digital I wonder why all branches dont integrate to suit the needs and environment of the soldiers. Understandably ACU in Afghanistan has had good reviews but why dosent the Army use the USMC tan MARPAT in Iraq? Along with the army doing new testing on camo the MULTICAM dosent look too bad but nowadays its getting crazy with the USAF tigerstripe and im not even gonna go into the crazy USN Blue digital granted it looks sick wont help much unless your hiding in the ocean.
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BangBang go to www.armytimes.com and Army current events is always there. This article written on the 2nd of November should answer your question on why that isnt happening.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/1...forms_103109w/
Coordination, not sameness, sought in uniforms
By Rick Maze - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Nov 2, 2009 21:41:00 EST
Lawmakers have dropped the idea of making everyone in combat wear the exact same uniform and camouflage pattern.
But out of concern for safety, function and performance, they want more cooperation between the services over ground combat and utility clothing.
The key concern is that U.S. personnel wearing different uniforms in a combat zone raise the risk of friendly fire.
The services raised enough of a fuss about having different needs that lawmakers dropped from the 2010 defense authorization bill a proposed requirement to standardize combat uniforms in the future.
In a report accompanying the defense bill, congressional negotiators agreed that the services may have uniforms that “uniquely reflect the identity of the individual services.” But the report says lawmakers still want uniforms that minimize the risk of mistaken identity and share technological advances and improvements across all services.
Lawmakers also directed the services to establish joint criteria for ground combat uniforms, and expect special operations forces to be covered by the joint standards.
To prod more cooperation in uniforms, lawmakers ordered a quick, 180-day assessment by the Government Accountability Office that will look at what uniforms are now in use, their advantages, similarities and differences.
SNIPER, SO FOR HOW MANY HOURS DID YOU USE MARPAT??  
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11-07-2009, 05:37 AM
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frankly... and coming from a devious foreginer...
I think some of you there just went and got lazy... its friggin common sense that you cant
make a camo which fits to all enviroments no matter how hard you try.
"multicam" works if you are able to pick a spot suited to "multicam".
you folks just went head over heels for the most cost effective solution for certain people.
(that you'll get when you privatize your warfare)
the US general camo scheme is too much influenced by the actual fields you are actually on
making most of them suck everywhere else.

well almost..
anyhows, thats what I think atleast.
the M05 works quite nicely for us
but it does have it's short comings for sure.
(PS. thease here are the old "pickle salad"(as we say) Camos in my sig)
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11-07-2009, 08:21 AM
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SNIPER, SO FOR HOW MANY HOURS DID YOU USE MARPAT??  
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Ouch.
Well weeks unfortunately. But my SDI told me how much better Woodland MARPAT was than the old BDUs in a vegetated area.
Now with my knee, all I can do in the Navy is something that doesn't even require utlities.
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11-07-2009, 08:53 AM
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Just realized my post sounds whiny.
Don't worry Q, I know that wasn't a slight. HAHA I just woke up so I was a bit groggy.
Plus I'm not in a good mood to start so you didn't upset me. I'm supposed to be in SOuth Dakota on a hunt but my mother wouldn't let my father take me due to "the extreme amount of school" I'd miss haha.
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11-07-2009, 09:06 AM
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Just realized my post sounds whiny.
Don't worry Q, I know that wasn't a slight. HAHA I just woke up so I was a bit groggy.
Plus I'm not in a good mood to start so you didn't upset me. I'm supposed to be in SOuth Dakota on a hunt but my mother wouldn't let my father take me due to "the extreme amount of school" I'd miss haha.
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just teasing bro. I know you wanted to earn the title and got hurt. You would have made an excellent devil dog.
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11-07-2009, 09:24 AM
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just teasing bro. I know you wanted to earn the title and got hurt. You would have made an excellent devil dog.
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No worries, bud. I realized I sounded like a huge *****.
What training Co. were you?
Gorilla Golf all the way!
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11-07-2009, 10:40 AM
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No worries, bud. I realized I sounded like a huge *****.
What training Co. were you?
Gorilla Golf all the way!
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I was with Platoon 3058 I Co. 3rd BN all the way. In the small squadbays away from the slimy 1st and 2nd BNs that are close to the 4BN devil pups lol
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11-07-2009, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by wolq
I was with Platoon 3058 I Co. 3rd BN all the way. In the small squadbays away from the slimy 1st and 2nd BNs that are close to the 4BN devil pups lol
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Ah, so you dealt with the Frog voice. You know, they're moving 3rd Battalion over by 2nd BN now.
3rd might make Machines, but 2nd will always make Marines!
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