
10-25-2005, 06:34 AM
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Hello. who thinks the media had no business in a warzone?
Am I the only one that thinks this?
free-market capitolist party(i had to make up a party since I don't know anything about politics)
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10-25-2005, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by blazemonger
free-market capitolist party(i had to make up a party since I don't know anything about politics)
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Originally Posted by blazemonger
Am I the only one that thinks this?
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I never liked the idea of having journalists everywhere in Iraq. They always skew things somehow. They get in the way, compromise confidence in the armed forces, and give out information usable by the enemy.
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10-25-2005, 03:24 PM
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I bet you everything I have that if we didn't have journalists in Iraq that you guys would have been able to complete the mission a long time ago, and casualty rate would have been much lower.
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10-25-2005, 06:50 PM
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That's probably not too far from the mark.
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10-25-2005, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by blazemonger
I bet you everything I have that if we didn't have journalists in Iraq that you guys would have been able to complete the mission a long time ago, and casualty rate would have been much lower.
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I'm not sure the casuality rate would have been lower. But there would be more chance of the job reaching a more favourable conclusion sooner.
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10-25-2005, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas
I'm not sure the casuality rate would have been lower. But there would be more chance of the job reaching a more favourable conclusion sooner.
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If it reaches such a conclusion sooner, Isn't that going to spare lives? Look at how many US troops died last week- 25. If it ended a week sooner, it could mean 25 less dead American soldiers.
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10-25-2005, 09:25 PM
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I think most of the reporters that go to war zones do it more for a self-serving purpose than for the good of trying to report accurate and unbiased information. Shouldn't it be a requirement for the reporters to be nominated for some type of award, like the the Screen Actor's Guild or something? You see them trying to over-dramatize everything to make it interesting. When they report a "breaking story" to the public, one only sees one side of it, not both. Most of the reporters are glamourizing whatever they can get their hands on. I, personally, cannot stand watching the news anymore for the simple fact that they dwell on one topic for hours upon hours, asking ridiculously stupid questions out of sheer ignorance in an effort to try and cover a story. One that can be covered in ten minutes or less.
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10-25-2005, 10:07 PM
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clives got a good point.
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10-26-2005, 03:29 AM
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if there were no journalists in war zones would even realise just how real the war actually is? would we know how bad it is? would it even be considered ad without journalists.
is theres one group of people profiteering off of this war, its CNN...
of course i hate journalists with a passion, nosy little bastards, thats all they are. photographers and cameraman are a different cup of tea however, as they cature the realism without media enforced speculation. they allow the people who view their work to analyse and form their own opinions.
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10-26-2005, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ozzi-solja
photographers and cameraman are a different cup of tea however, as they cature the realism without media enforced speculation. they allow the people who view their work to analyse and form their own opinions.
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I don't think that is quite true. There is the editing room. Even if cameramen films objectively, the guys back in the editing room will edit it to evoke something they want it to. There is only a limited timeframe on their news slot that they can fill.
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Originally Posted by ozzi-solja
if there were no journalists in war zones would even realise just how real the war actually is? would we know how bad it is? would it even be considered ad without journalists.
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The fact is we don't get the straight truth through the media. So, do we really know how bad it is through what they say? Is it really as bad as they tell us it is? I can't trust them, so I go through alternate channels.
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War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
- John Stuart Mill
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