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Old 05-12-2006, 10:35 PM
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im tired.
to me, it seams that some certain members don't really understand
squat about the thing we call freedom.
(your a nazi! your a communist! such..)
well this is quite obvious since this is a military forum.
people have hard views on things. nothing bad in healthy
arguments, but without moderator they tend to go out of hand...

but it has made me think and ponder again.
this is what i managed to write up:

now if you got an opponent...
you expect him to hit hard when ever he has a chance?
that is the path US has taken lately..
no negotiations.. First strike policy..
"we dont answer to anyone" attitude.

most frightning in my opinion is the fact
that US has not grown out from the coldwar yet.
thus it blindly persues forexample the economical globalization..
and the social globalization drags behind. thease two should be in
balance.

its not that thease two things should be mutually exclusive..
this is the view of many who have been brought up in this beleaf.

there is two edges in the sword. if we can master em both,
we have something which is a new start for mankind.

lets put it like this...

pro capitalism is like a long thin glass which cant hold much..
the rest pours over.. but it reaches high.
and pro socialism is like a plate, it holds the same amount of liquid..
and it covers much wider area.. but it cant handle the "rise"

now what if we put thease two together?
well obviously the glass is smaller and the plate doesn't cover as much.
but it's a start..

the optimal scenario would thus be that the form of the glass and the plate
could be chanced according to the need. (now im talking about national politics)
now nowadays democracy does this.. its still kinda stiff and
slow.. but its firm. and the end result usually works.
(taking that the aims of the regime is not torwarded for
one interest group.)

dynamic democracy needs everybody.
but it would also need some rules which could not be
broken. and thats the hard part.

in the current situation.. we'd need a global threat
to bound us together. but perhaps in the future
we can manage something like it without
gunpoint.
its the priorizing things..
but can you ever get HC leftist to respect rightist ideas?
when they are needed? well not really.. not usually.
can you get a HC nationalist to make compromisses?
not really.. not today. everybody hits so hard that
everyone is afraid.

some of you might have noticed that i have left religion out of this..
well, i beleve, i beleve that religion is good thing.
but it shouldnt never become part of politics.
because its like joker in your opponents hand.. or yours.
one can do what ever one want with it.
even abuse it to the level that the very formers
of that religion would call you heretic.

in a wide sea of toughts.... this is what came to my mind.

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Old 05-13-2006, 02:55 AM
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Oops :x
Do you hear what by dynamic ?
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Old 05-13-2006, 10:55 AM
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sorry about the delay.. i had to do some fixing with it.
there you go jim.
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:02 AM
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Is terrorism not a global threat ?
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:54 AM
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Iīd say no from where I sit at least......I donīt think anyone in my neighborhood are afraid that some terrorists would come and blow something up here in Espoo......or Finland....as nobody in the rest of the world would care cause we are kind of insignificant on a global scale......and I guess that there are many small countries that are in a similar situation.....but anyway...thats just my opinion. A global threat would in my opinion be something that actually threaten anyone regardless of where on earth that person would be. Letīs say a very contagious virus or bacteria.....or from a scifi point of view aliens attacking earth(not bloody likely but as an example). Anyway, something that would actually unite all humankind to strive towards a common goal.
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Old 05-13-2006, 12:05 PM
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Carbon emmisions would probably fullfill that criteria. Only, the average American is reluctant to give up their SUV /Truck.
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Old 05-13-2006, 12:48 PM
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Yep...global warming is a good example....it concerns us all.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:17 AM
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Is terrorism not a global threat ?
well the thing is that there are extrimists where ever you go..
and the real threat is that they emerge in the place which
has the most potent arsenal.
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Old 05-14-2006, 05:03 AM
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We need a global threat like a giant asteroid, a little bit radical but this can go, no ? personally I do not believe in a union of all humakind or in a long long time, //the average American is reluctant to give up their SUV /Truck// the price of the gasoline increases maybe peoples will use more their feet ? soon I think that I will go to the job by bicycle :x that will be hard for my muscles but it is for a good cause ! save money, protect earth and health not bad ?
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Old 05-14-2006, 05:18 AM
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well the thing is that there are extrimists where ever you go..
and the real threat is that they emerge in the place which
has the most potent arsenal.
In the 1970's Italy and Germany suffered from Arab/Palestian terrorism . They did nothing to deserve this ..

Bader mein hoff gang in Germany is another example of unprovoked terrorism

The town of Lockerbie (Scotland) also had done nothing when the Pan AM flight crashed into it .... it suffered all the same though ...

There are many more examples of terrorism being inflicted on innocent people where there is no potent arsenal

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