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Hollywood is rewriting history
In many war films produced by Hollywood ,it is apparent that the truth is not important anymore . Whole countries are written out of the storylines .Never was this more obvious than in Saving private Ryan or U571 . Undoubtably this is a brainwashing exercise to convince Americans that the USA rules . The US is undoubtably the most powerful military nation on the planet .So why does Hollywood delight in Writing whole countries (and allies for god sake)out of the storyline ? Well I think it is an insecurity .
Surely if they are so powerful they can afford to be more charitable when telling stories of true events . Increasingly the only history people know about comes from films ,So I think it is very important to be factual and accurate as well as entertaining .
Next I believe we will have Tom cruise flying Hurricanes in a Battle of Britain film by Michael Mann . Please Michael be Charitable their were only 7 American pilots in the RAF!
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05-25-2006, 07:50 PM
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They're movies, they aren't factual accounts or historical documentaries. They're meant for entertainment. Lots of acting, some dead guys and explosions.
Don't like it? Don't watch them.
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05-25-2006, 08:21 PM
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he has a point though, whether we like it or not
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05-25-2006, 08:24 PM
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Tacky makes a valid point though: It's entertainment. If we put in every historical fact, It would get boring for most. Of course the'll have Cruise in that film. But you forget Hister, He might be playing a Brit.
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05-25-2006, 10:43 PM
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Tacky makes a valid point though: It's entertainment. If we put in every historical fact, It would get boring for most.
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Hey, Behind Enemy Lines was good...
In Saving Private Ryan it's not a true story (is it?  ) so I don't see what the harm is. But if it's supposed to be a true story then they should put it all in there, they can mix it up a bit, as long as it's not saying anything that's completely off and messing up everybody's mind from what they read in their history books.
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05-26-2006, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Tacky
They're movies, they aren't factual accounts or historical documentaries. They're meant for entertainment. Lots of acting, some dead guys and explosions.
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I agree .Saving private Ryan was a landmark in Cinema from a special effects point of view .For me though the opportunity was lost to show the scope of that day .How could the scale of that operation be described as boring ?
It was a very narrow story line with a somewhat absurd story of rescuing one man .The only reference the Brits got was a derogatory remark about Montgomery. Also ,apparently all Germans have a fondness for presenting themselves as targets .Hollywood really does need to grow up !
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Thats right ,but Its not me I'm worried about .
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05-26-2006, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by A. hister
In many war films produced by Hollywood ,it is apparent that the truth is not important anymore . Whole countries are written out of the storylines .Never was this more obvious than in Saving private Ryan or U571 . Undoubtably this is a brainwashing exercise to convince Americans that the USA rules . The US is undoubtably the most powerful military nation on the planet .So why does Hollywood delight in Writing whole countries (and allies for god sake)out of the storyline ? Well I think it is an insecurity .
Surely if they are so powerful they can afford to be more charitable when telling stories of true events . Increasingly the only history people know about comes from films ,So I think it is very important to be factual and accurate as well as entertaining .
Next I believe we will have Tom cruise flying Hurricanes in a Battle of Britain film by Michael Mann . Please Michael be Charitable their were only 7 American pilots in the RAF!
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Seriously, do you have anything better to ***** about nazi ***ot.
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05-26-2006, 09:43 AM
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In this case make a film for germans where americans are used as target ? but possible that you have problem whith the convention of Geneva, yes "Don't like it? Don't watch them" but to judge look at before no ? and since a long time that hollywood movies are not take with serious it's just for fun not to search a historical reality, if you start to pay attention to the historical improbabilities in hollywood movies you lost your latin. but that's sure a big difference when you look "Der Untergang" and "Saving Private Ryan" not same approach :x
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05-26-2006, 01:39 PM
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as for private ryan
It is based on a true events. WW1 there was five brothers in the British navy that were killed when there ship was sunk. The US Military had a rule that brothers could not service in the same combat unit. If I remember right it also stats only son cannot serve in a combat inevorment, but I'm not sure on that one.
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05-26-2006, 03:02 PM
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With the exception of Tacky ,I have yet to hear a coherant explanation or reply .
In Germany we have made" Das Boot" and ""Stalingrad " and "All quite on the western Front " .All notable for showing the futility of war . War should not be glamourised it is just plain stupid to do so .Our children feed off this garbage and delude themselves that it is accurate .
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