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Old 09-27-2006, 02:38 PM
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Default Lebanon peace keeping, the past and the future.

as we Finns have some experience from there...
let me show you some footage of the reality.

blocking the IDF tanks from reaching the area they have no business to be in with SISU X-180.

the history repeats it self.
it just hapend to hit this time.


how to actually do some good there?
UN troops need clearence do more... (not too much)
the number of troops seriously needs to be enough.

PS. if you hear loud words they are aither commands or cursin' .

and yeah.. this footage is from the 90's.. and has nothing to do with
war on terrorism

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Old 09-28-2006, 02:11 PM
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as we Finns have some experience from there...
let me show you some footage of the reality.

blocking the IDF tanks from reaching the area they have no business to be in with SISU X-180.

the history repeats it self.
it just hapend to hit this time.


how to actually do some good there?
UN troops need clearence do more... (not too much)
the number of troops seriously needs to be enough.

PS. if you hear loud words they are aither commands or cursin' .

and yeah.. this footage is from the 90's.. and has nothing to do with
war on terrorism
i hope them israeli ****ing hurt ya.......sweet
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Old 09-29-2006, 05:10 AM
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i hope them israeli ****ing hurt ya.......sweet
you dont have a clue about anything do you? pathetic.

we are not going there to figth anybody. we are going there to keep the situation
stable. and that means pushing against both, the hezbollah and IDF if neccisery.

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Old 09-30-2006, 08:58 AM
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as we Finns have some experience from there...
let me show you some footage of the reality.

blocking the IDF tanks from reaching the area they have no business to be in with SISU X-180.

the history repeats it self.
it just hapend to hit this time.


how to actually do some good there?
UN troops need clearence do more... (not too much)
the number of troops seriously needs to be enough.

PS. if you hear loud words they are aither commands or cursin' .

and yeah.. this footage is from the 90's.. and has nothing to do with
war on terrorism
good vid torp.....those tank crews were arseholes
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Old 09-30-2006, 09:00 AM
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i hope them israeli ****ing hurt ya.......sweet
do you have to try being a prick or does it come natrual
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:13 AM
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i hope them israeli ****ing hurt ya.......sweet

You really are an ignorant dip****e little *******... Why dont you go rent a brain, and attempt something that you never did before, say something remotely intelligant....
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:23 AM
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as we Finns have some experience from there...
let me show you some footage of the reality.

blocking the IDF tanks from reaching the area they have no business to be in with SISU X-180.

the history repeats it self.
it just hapend to hit this time.


how to actually do some good there?
UN troops need clearence do more... (not too much)
the number of troops seriously needs to be enough.

PS. if you hear loud words they are aither commands or cursin' .

and yeah.. this footage is from the 90's.. and has nothing to do with
war on terrorism

Torps.... great vid man!!.... Those IDF tank crews always were *******s..... That footage was oh too familiar..... The village you saved that day I am sure was greatful...... We had exactly the same experience with them... its what makes the peacekeeping roles so difficult.... the ****ers used to zero there main guns on our positions... direct hit.... 3 flares.... cool my main gun works... if we had offensive standing orders... the IDF tanks would have being blown into smitterings like any conventional counter attack via the Air.. but its peacekeeping, and our mission is stability, not sides..... a difficult and often thankless task..... as that little **** Apache 7 has proven...


Standing orders for Rules of Engagement are so critical..... especially for UNIFIL.... By the way, Thanks for lending us your APCs.... they saved countless lives of Irish Soldiers... We had numerous deaths from Hezbollah Ambushs on APCS where ball ammo penetrated at close range the Timoney APCs.... light and outdated APCs in 90s.... we buried our dead and got a lend of those APCS from you guys... I for one was and always will be grateful to the Finns for those APCs.... Allot of Irishmen are alive today cos of them....
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Old 09-30-2006, 04:00 PM
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Torps.... great vid man!!.... Those IDF tank crews always were *******s..... That footage was oh too familiar..... The village you saved that day I am sure was greatful...... We had exactly the same experience with them... its what makes the peacekeeping roles so difficult.... the ****ers used to zero there main guns on our positions... direct hit.... 3 flares.... cool my main gun works... if we had offensive standing orders... the IDF tanks would have being blown into smitterings like any conventional counter attack via the Air.. but its peacekeeping, and our mission is stability, not sides..... a difficult and often thankless task..... as that little **** Apache 7 has proven...


Standing orders for Rules of Engagement are so critical..... especially for UNIFIL.... By the way, Thanks for lending us your APCs.... they saved countless lives of Irish Soldiers... We had numerous deaths from Hezbollah Ambushs on APCS where ball ammo penetrated at close range the Timoney APCs.... light and outdated APCs in 90s.... we buried our dead and got a lend of those APCS from you guys... I for one was and always will be grateful to the Finns for those APCs.... Allot of Irishmen are alive today cos of them....
its easier for soldiers to use force take thing by force......keep things with force...peacekeeping is by far the hardest job for a solider theres hardly no room
you cant use agresstion you have to be seen as neutral....if a solider can do peacekeeping he can do anything........salute the finns for thoses APCs
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Old 10-01-2006, 03:57 AM
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Israel has withdrawn the last of its troops from Lebanon, fulfilling a key condition of the UN ceasefire that ended its war with Hezbollah.
About 200 soldiers crossed into Israel after midnight, the army said.
Israel sent thousands of troops into southern Lebanon during a month-long war triggered by Hezbollah's abduction of two soldiers in July.
Lebanese and international peacekeeping troops are being deployed to monitor the ceasefire.
"The responsibility for Lebanon right now is in the hands of the Lebanese government and, of course, the UN so every act of Hezbollah is the responsibility of Lebanon," Israeli army spokesman Zvika Golan said.

Fight 'not over'

Over the six weeks since the ceasefire came into force, Israel has been withdrawing troops from a peak of 30,000 during the fighting.
Lebanon had complained in recent days that the pace of the withdrawal was too slow.
The last forces pulled out under the cover of darkness, hours before the Jewish holy day of Yom Kippur was due to begin.
Troops padlocked the border gate at Zarit, close to where the two soldiers were seized on 12 July.
The BBC's Matthew Price at the border says that although soldiers laughed and held up flags as they crossed back into Israel, there was no sense of victory.
Hezbollah is still holding captive two Israeli soldiers whose abduction sparked off the conflict - and most Israelis also believe that the fight with Hezbollah is not over once and for all, our correspondent says.
The soldiers on the border said they might have to go back into Lebanon one day, he adds.
The BBC's Kim Ghattas in Lebanon says there will be relief in the country's southern villages, as well as for the Lebanese authorities.
But she says the onus will now be on the Lebanese and UN forces to make sure the volatile border remains quiet.

Disarming Hezbollah

The UN-brokered truce, agreed in August, ended 34 days of fighting between Israel and Hezbollah.
The UN ceasefire resolution called on Hezbollah to end attacks against Israel and on Israelis to withdraw. It called for the deployment of 15,000 UN peacekeepers, alongside the same number of Lebanese troops, in south Lebanon.
Some 5,000 UN forces are now in place, together with 10,000 Lebanese soldiers.
But correspondents point out that the resolution also calls for the disarming of Hezbollah - which the militant group has resisted.
The UN has appointed a mediator to try to win the captured soldiers' freedom, most likely through a prisoner swap with Israel.
The completion of the withdrawal comes a day after the Israeli infrastructure minister, Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, called for the assassination of Hezbollah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah.
"He's bad for the Jews, he's bad for the Arabs, he's bad for the Christians. We should wait for the right opportunity and not leave him alive," he said.
More than 1,100 people - mostly civilians - were killed in Lebanon during the war. More than 150 Israelis - mainly soldiers - were killed.
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Old 10-01-2006, 06:57 AM
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its easier for soldiers to use force take thing by force......keep things with force...peacekeeping is by far the hardest job for a solider theres hardly no room
you cant use agresstion you have to be seen as neutral....if a solider can do peacekeeping he can do anything........salute the finns for thoses APCs
name on peacekeeping job youve done
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