The older I have become the more I realise how manipulated Films are .Especially war films .Very few give a true picture (which is near impossible) of combat. Most have a nationalistic agenda . One or two do however try to attain the near impossible . The most realistic in my opinion would have to be Das Boot . As it conveyed Human beings doing a job ,but also with very real fear and reservations as to their cause.

Please give me your opinion

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Nothing can truly show what happens in combat, except combat itself. I do like War films though.

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I think you are right, and I would go on to say that they have a political agenda.... its part of the reincorcement of a political stance behind a conflict... I thought Band of Bros was very good and very realistic... There were times in it that I was getting very uncomfortable watching it, it was so realistic.. but would watch it again and again... a fine piece of film making.... Das Boot was good too... but its being many years since I have seen it...

To be honest, the second biggest thing films like that do is to give the impression that every man in a uniform is at the front, in WW2... 8% of Allied Soliders actually were in close quarter combat at any one time, yet the films depict 100% of them as locked in mortal combat... Combat engagements because of the shift to Parimilitary war has gone down in numbers making conventional films even more inaccurate, thus influencing public opinion towards attitudes on war that have no relevance whatsoever... thats when you hear comments like "who needs an Army", the Police can handle stuff... and "my tax payers money is going on those guys...huuhh.... like they do nothing for a living..." Its the sacriface of my brothers that allows such ignorance to live feely... you wont see that expressed in a PC War Film...

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one has to remember that films are done with dramaturgic lines..
anyone who has studied dramaturgy knows this.

unfortunately.. this applies in all movies..
even the documentaries can contain certain "structure" which they follow.

when this "structure" comes highly romanticized from certain side... its propaganda.

how ever. we all do it. tough US does it with well established "assembly line" called
Hollywood.

Dramaturgy... I like it... sounds like a sleeping disorder....

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I deliberately mentioned Das Boot, I watched it again recently . The confinement on the boat and the absolute smell of fear are as strong today as when it was first aired back in 1980-81. I actually felt sorry for a bunch of German lads trying to sink British ships ,,,,,Now that s a clever film ,because it captures the human element ......and makes you aware of the suffering of your enemy .

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hi I agree war films are not convayed the way they sould be. but thats only because 1) you cant simulate real battles in the movies the best that you can do is make it look realistic. and the 2nd is that war films are made for the reason of more money.... this is only my opinoin

Yes, it captured the real story of those men... its a human war story... I find the more the directors of these films stick with the truth and leave out the Peotic Licence/Amateur Dramatics... the better the film will be...

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thats the best war film ever
the ICEMAN

Hollywood has a tendancy to over cook...or under cook things.....for me Black Hawk down captures war well....but that might be just my personall feeling......We were soldiers aswell for me was a good film Mel Bibson played a great role.......but when all said and done flims are films and real life is real life......

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