As some know, In other posts, I have used the Vietnam war and its counter intelligence program near the latter end in which VC agents were caught and turned into doubles.... passing misinformation and gathering Intel for US forces in the massive Guerilla war in Vietnam. Facts are that despite the VCs successful alliance with NVA and the massive damage inflicted in US Forces in the south, the USs failing tactics were revised and new input and focus was given to Counter Intel for the fact that US was failing cos they couldnt get a handle on successful initiatives and thus couldnt get an upper hand due to a lack of Intel on the enemy actions and plans....

As a result, these programs were put in place, and whilst MASSIVE anti war protests raged in the US, these progams rolled out in Vietnam and begin to feedback good Intel on VC movements and plans, making them a target for US initiated Ambushs for example... By 1972, the tide of the war in terms of battles to the US had turned in favour to the US, and the new tactics were working by first counts... however US whilst turning the war of Intel, bombs and bullets in their favour, the war of words was lost at home and troops were pulled out of the country thus concluded the war.....

Thing is, the counter intel program worked.... used today???... maybe, should be used today in Iraq/Afganistan.... most definately...

Heres to the VETS of Vietnam who suffered trying to fight a guerella war with conventional tactics....

Some good Links on the Topic.....

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB121/index.htm

http://www.foia.cia.gov/nic_vietnam_collection.asp

https://www.cia.gov/csi/books/vietnam/index.html

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We killed 90% of the Vietcong in the Tet Offensive.

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Where did you source that one Z??... never heard of such a kill rate for insurgents through those engagements...

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"Barrel High, Powder Dry!"

"Illic est haud effrego ex Veneratio"

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We view ourselves on the eve of battle. We are nerved for the contest, and must conquer or perish. It is vain to look for present aid. We must now act or abandon all hope! Rally to the standard, and be no longer the scoff of mercenary tongues! Be men, be free men, that your children may bless their father's name. - Sam Houston

Duty is the most sublime word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less. - Robert E. Lee

Link doesn't work^^

http://www.mygrandpa.com/ Try that

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We view ourselves on the eve of battle. We are nerved for the contest, and must conquer or perish. It is vain to look for present aid. We must now act or abandon all hope! Rally to the standard, and be no longer the scoff of mercenary tongues! Be men, be free men, that your children may bless their father's name. - Sam Houston

Duty is the most sublime word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less. - Robert E. Lee

It says its just part of a "cheap yellow pages" and a search engine thing appears in the middle of the screen saying "Welcome to mygrandpa.com home page, Enter the product category at MyGrandpa.com you looking for ?"

Nothing about the battles in vietnam? lol

I was being facetious. I meant that my source is my grandfather. He said that one time...

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We view ourselves on the eve of battle. We are nerved for the contest, and must conquer or perish. It is vain to look for present aid. We must now act or abandon all hope! Rally to the standard, and be no longer the scoff of mercenary tongues! Be men, be free men, that your children may bless their father's name. - Sam Houston

Duty is the most sublime word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less. - Robert E. Lee

I think that Militarily, We had the upper hand. Politically, we lost.


Big time.

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Damn Hippies.

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We view ourselves on the eve of battle. We are nerved for the contest, and must conquer or perish. It is vain to look for present aid. We must now act or abandon all hope! Rally to the standard, and be no longer the scoff of mercenary tongues! Be men, be free men, that your children may bless their father's name. - Sam Houston

Duty is the most sublime word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less. - Robert E. Lee