
02-07-2007, 11:57 PM
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Europe vs. USA Possible third world war?
there have been many speculations about which countries will be majorly involved in a third world war but due to recent events it is clear that Europe and the USA are going in different directions:
1. The USA keeps requeting more troops to be sent to afghanistan and iraq and with good reason i say but most European countries, such as England, Italy, France and Spain have refused.
2. The USA is falling out with the EU in general over the Iranian crisis with the USA wanting to move in with force whil the EU believes in talks which has proven more succesfoul than the threats.
3. The EU is steadily progressing towards a common miltary between all its memebers, there are already the general guidelines for an European Miltary and even though they are describe as virtual they should not be under estimated
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...Reaction_Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Gendarmerie_Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocorps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...n_Battlegroups
My only questions are:
1. is if such a war is to happen where will britain stand beeing the they are by far the closes allies of the USA?
2. will Russia Get involved seeing that theyre military will surely represent victory or loss for one of the two sides?
3. what will the UN do in such a war?
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02-08-2007, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by europeanfigther
there have been many speculations about which countries will be majorly involved in a third world war but due to recent events it is clear that Europe and the USA are going in different directions:
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In some respects, not all. We are agreed on the Islamic extremist threat . We just have different approaches.
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1. The USA keeps requeting more troops to be sent to afghanistan and iraq and with good reason i say but most European countries, such as England, Italy, France and Spain have refused.
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Wrong, NATO is requesting more troops be sent to Afghanistan .They requested that while under British command.
and England don't have an army  ,the British do though!
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2. The USA is falling out with the EU in general over the Iranian crisis with the USA wanting to move in with force whil the EU believes in talks which has proven more succesfoul than the threats.
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The US have said quite the opposite upto press. Your source would be what...... "the idiots guide to stupidity" ?
Lol ,Absolute bollocks .They've proven to be unreliable
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My only questions are:
1. is if such a war is to happen where will britain stand beeing the they are by far the closes allies of the USA?
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England or Britain ,make your mind up ?
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2. will Russia Get involved seeing that theyre military will surely represent victory or loss for one of the two sides?
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There would be no victory for either side in this ridiculous scenario
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3. what will the UN do in such a war?
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Nothing ! except maybe shoot a few Italians in Qatar!
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02-08-2007, 10:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by europeanfigther
there have been many speculations about which countries will be majorly involved in a third world war but due to recent events it is clear that Europe and the USA are going in different directions:
1. The USA keeps requeting more troops to be sent to afghanistan and iraq and with good reason i say but most European countries, such as England, Italy, France and Spain have refused.
2. The USA is falling out with the EU in general over the Iranian crisis with the USA wanting to move in with force whil the EU believes in talks which has proven more succesfoul than the threats.
3. The EU is steadily progressing towards a common miltary between all its memebers, there are already the general guidelines for an European Miltary and even though they are describe as virtual they should not be under estimated
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...Reaction_Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Gendarmerie_Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocorps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...n_Battlegroups
My only questions are:
1. is if such a war is to happen where will britain stand beeing the they are by far the closes allies of the USA?
2. will Russia Get involved seeing that theyre military will surely represent victory or loss for one of the two sides?
3. what will the UN do in such a war?
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Answers;
1. Britian wont have to make that choice cos it wont happen
2. Russia are closely alinged with China,and any military action from Russia will be in support of China and its new friends in the Middle east
3. Try to mediate, but with its credibility in shambles, it willbe an onlooker, a league of nations so to speak... history is just repeating itself.
Your thread is mute cos its based on unrealisitic assumptions of Europe and US going to war against each other... if anything, we will be forced to go to war together... depends on Chinas moves over the next 10 yrs or so....
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02-08-2007, 05:44 PM
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I see no war between Europa and America 
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02-08-2007, 06:29 PM
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As different as we are, I doubt that the USA and Europe will EVER engage in any war (in the near future at least. Maybe FAR into the future when ties are dissolved to the point that we're strangers almost) We're both for the most part Democratic entities and we all share a few key common beliefs. Not to mention the "Special relationship" Between Britain and the US, which I don't think will ever be fully erased no matter what happens. If you think I'm wrong, show me.
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02-09-2007, 03:28 AM
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the only scenaro when EU is going to engage US is when she falls
under some dictatorship and is a clear and present danger.
and frankly.. we are screwd if we have to do that.
thats the sole reason why we europeans put some
heat under the US politicians from time to time..
there is no one here who can control the cop once its been
corrupted.
and....
(2)if US would be clear and present danger.. Russia would be the first
to respond to that. and they still have nukes to fry the the whole
continent. and let me be clear on this... there wouldnt be
any major city up and standing in the US if they would so choose.
how ever.. the Russians are going down a different road it seems.
they are actually having the scaled version of the wild-wild west
there... just because they went down so bad. the criminals
have gizmos which belonged to the top agents in the cold war..
how ever.. if US would be in their way in the most massive
form of the word. they would go back to the old stuff.
(1)what comes to the Brittain.. she will and always has gone to war
for her own goals. the true imperialism is the very nature of this country.
and if US totally rottens its just a former colony gone bad.
unfortunately a quite large one.
(3)UN.. UN would probably fall apart or
unify against the biggest threat.
and beyand that.. US could as well scorch it self...
there is no way EU could just take over all the things US is doing.
invasion is clearly out of the picture.
the war would be nuclear.. but it wont go that
far. (information/electrical war)
as long as US is a democracy.. we can affect
the decisions and outcome for us.
if it goes sour we haveto start building aither carriers or nukes..
and frankly.. nukes are far easier to manage.
that enough "what if" for you EF?
fortunately United States is a Democracy
there would be a civil war in the states before
we would haveto go there.
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02-09-2007, 05:45 AM
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Lol ,Absolute bollocks .They've proven to be unreliable
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they haven't proven anything.. yet.
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02-09-2007, 06:18 AM
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I'll disagree with the Russians using nukes on the US and destroying well every major city. It be more like Russia fires a nuke then the US fires a nuke. So instead of the US just being bombarded by nukes Russia will recieve the same and that leading to the whole world being one giant mess.
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02-09-2007, 07:39 AM
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Speaking of Nukes, WW3 will bring about the end of Civilization as we know it if anyone is dumb enough to use a nuke. I have a feeling more nukes will be flying then bullets and most of the humans all around the world will be killed immediately or die of radiation. Hell I prefered it when two armys would fight sword and shield/bow and arrow. No big nuke to wipe out huge citys and stuff just a buncha people trying to stab each other.
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02-09-2007, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by torspo[fin]
they haven't proven anything.. yet.
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France and Germany ? Sorry not reliable in a sticky situation as WE have just found out !
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