
02-20-2007, 06:13 PM
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Raising pay for servicemembers...what would happen?
I just thought of this and I have no idea why, but what if the average pay to servicemembers would raise to $75,000-$100,000. I know it won't happen but just thought it be a fun thread to discuss. Maybe make it needed to have a high school diploma to join any branch of the Military or 2 yrs of college experience. But you also had to serve for atleast 15 years.
Also say infantry, where the real grunts are lol and what every recruiter seems to want the recruits job to be, make the most and start off at say $80,000 and can go as high as $120,000.
Positives: A hell of a lot more people would join the military.
Negatives: People would do it just for the money, would have people that really just were not ment to be in the Military.
I'm sure there is a lot more negatives just not thinking into it to much.
Now this thread is just for run so whats your take on it? And anything crazy you could think of to add to this bizarre thread? lol
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02-20-2007, 09:33 PM
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Very few jobs in the military are worthy of that high pay... infantry isn't, and I was in the infantry. Need a more realistic salary. Also 15 years is a lot for the government to invest in someone. Most guys break after 4.
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02-20-2007, 09:48 PM
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I'm all for a military pay raise. Risk of death is worth a lot. It has to be a workable amount though. You guys don't even want to know what I got per month as a pv1 in 1975! To me it should be all about hazardous duty pay increase.
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02-21-2007, 07:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M4M203
I just thought of this and I have no idea why, but what if the average pay to servicemembers would raise to $75,000-$100,000. I know it won't happen but just thought it be a fun thread to discuss. Maybe make it needed to have a high school diploma to join any branch of the Military or 2 yrs of college experience. But you also had to serve for atleast 15 years.
Also say infantry, where the real grunts are lol and what every recruiter seems to want the recruits job to be, make the most and start off at say $80,000 and can go as high as $120,000.
Positives: A hell of a lot more people would join the military.
Negatives: People would do it just for the money, would have people that really just were not ment to be in the Military.
I'm sure there is a lot more negatives just not thinking into it to much.
Now this thread is just for run so whats your take on it? And anything crazy you could think of to add to this bizarre thread? lol
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As Tacky says, the rates of pay are not realistic, but you raise an interesting point, we used to talk allot about when I was full time.... The basic is too low, but a 10%-15% rise in basic pay accross all ranks would be very beneficial to morale, along with hazardous allowance pay rises aswell.
Hazardous pay allowances were alright for the time, but they should be raised and index linked..... The allowances when I went operational were worth far less to me in terms of spending power from my entry to operational status to my leaving the regulars.... I was in the same unit, and laughed at our allowances stating that If I stayed any longer, Burger King will be an option for me on pay alone!!...
Im not adverse to extra allowances for expense occuring items like extra kit that the Army doesnt give out.... we all did it, and it eats into a small salary.... this should be reembursed by the military. To cap it off as a real sweetner, weekend duty allowances..... that would make the cake as sweet as is safe to attract and retain real men/soldiers who join for the right reasons, but not enough to attract the parasites who want something for nothing, or who are too greedy to see anything else but the big pay cheque...
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02-21-2007, 12:18 PM
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i think it would be nice to see a pay raise for the real men and woman out there, hell why not, there giving welfare a raise all the time.
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02-21-2007, 01:00 PM
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i think the raise would be awesome i think fighting for your country is definitely worthy of that kind of pay. Tacky you say few jobs in the army are worthy well do you think an nfl football player is worthy of millions of dollars to play a damn game. All combat mos are worthy of much more than we are given i made $18,000.00 for a year deployment to iraq thats pretty screwed up
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02-21-2007, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by james nipper
i think the raise would be awesome i think fighting for your country is definitely worthy of that kind of pay. Tacky you say few jobs in the army are worthy well do you think an nfl football player is worthy of millions of dollars to play a damn game. All combat mos are worthy of much more than we are given i made $18,000.00 for a year deployment to iraq thats pretty screwed up
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99% of football players, and soccer players too that get that type of money are full of **** and I would not go into a crowded bar with them, never mind a combat zone. My point is that over pricing a profession (Football for example) attracts greedy *******s whos one and only care in life is money.... they dont give a ****e about the profession, its a means to an end.... you DONT want those type of people beside you thinking of themselves before the team. Pre Madonna wankers can stay in football, cos there not wanted in the military.... Tackys right, its over priced... That said, increases in basic and allowances that are relative to the profession profile is cool, as per my previous post....
p.s. Terribly sorry to hear of your father.... my thoughts are with you lad. May I wish you well in navigating your way through it...
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02-21-2007, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Exo1
99% of football players, and soccer players too that get that type of money are full of **** and I would not go into a crowded bar with them, never mind a combat zone. My point is that over pricing a profession (Football for example) attracts greedy *******s whos one and only care in life is money.... they dont give a ****e about the profession, its a means to an end.... you DONT want those type of people beside you thinking of themselves before the team. Pre Madonna wankers can stay in football, cos there not wanted in the military.... Tackys right, its over priced... That said, increases in basic and allowances that are relative to the profession profile is cool, as per my previous post....
p.s. Terribly sorry to hear of your father.... my thoughts are with you lad. May I wish you well in navigating your way through it...
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you make a good point i really would rather shoot myself in the foot than to go to combat with people like that
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02-21-2007, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by james nipper
you make a good point i really would rather shoot myself in the foot than to go to combat with people like that
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Selfish ppl do stupid things...while others pay for it...there not stand up and never answer for others...
Very sorry about your Dad. Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.. God bless.
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02-21-2007, 10:44 PM
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Real soldiers don't do it for the money. You guys are right. You all know I want to serve, right? But did you also know that I made several million $ when I sold my company? There are a certain type of people that once they have enough money to live comfortably, it fades into the background. Those are your best soldiers, not the ones you're paying like mercenaries.
All that being said, $18k for a year in Iraq is ridiculous! 75g's is what you should have gotten in my opinion. And when you're posted domestically, considering fringe, you still should make enough to have a new car for you AND your spouse, plus be able to save for college for your kids, etc.
It would be expensive to give military people a raise, but SO WHAT? How much would it be out of trillions of dollars spent? I spent my time in the Army in poverty, and that part of it sucked.
Here's an idea. Give each US soldier in Iraq extra money so they can buy AK47's etc. off the population until they are disarmed. I guess that's off topic; sorry.
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