http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/...019116079.html




Peter Foster, Delhi
June 20, 2007

A SENIOR minister in the Pakistani Government has urged Muslim countries to break diplomatic relations with London and claimed a suicide bomb attack would be a justified response to author Salman Rushdie's knighthood.

The Pakistan Parliament called on the British Government to reverse the decision to award the knighthood or face further protests from Muslim nations.

"If someone commits suicide bombing to protect the honour of the Prophet Muhammad, his act is justified," the Minister for Religious Affairs, Ijaz ul-Haq, told Pakistan's national assembly.

"This is an occasion for the (world's) 1.5 billion Muslims to look at the seriousness of this decision," Mr ul-Haq said. "If Muslims do not unite, the situation will get worse and Salman Rushdie may get a seat in the British Parliament."

His comments provoked an angry response around the world. Effigies of the Queen and Rushdie were burned in the eastern Pakistan city of Multan as students chanted: "Kill him! Kill him!"

But Mr ul-Haq said his main intention had been to examine the root causes of terrorism; he denied he was encouraging suicide bombing. The Foreign Office is seeking a full transcript of his remarks before making an official response.

Sher Afgan Khan Niazi, the Minister for Parliamentary Affairs who tabled the motion, said the knighthood was "a source of hurt for Muslims" and would encourage people to "commit blasphemy against the Prophet Muhammad".

Mr ul-Haq then called on Pakistan and all other Muslim states to "break off diplomatic relations with Britain" if the knighthood was not withdrawn.

Pakistan's condemnation came after Iran expressed similar sentiments at the weekend and will again raise concerns for the author's safety.

Rushdie 59, who said he was "thrilled" to be knighted, was forced to live in hiding for nine years after Iran's late spiritual leader, Ayatollah Khomeini, issued a fatwa ordering Muslims to kill him for allegedly insulting Islam's holy Prophet in The Satanic Verses.

It was not until 1998, when the Iranian Government said that it would not support the outstanding fatwa, that the author returned to public life.

At the Multan protest, Asim Dahr, a student leader from the group Jamiat Turaba Arabia, said the Queen had made a mockery of Muslims and Rushdie should be tried under Islamic laws.

Britain's high commissioner to Pakistan, Robert Brinkley, said: "It is simply untrue to suggest that this in any way is an insult to Islam or the Prophet Muhammad, and we have enormous respect for Islam as a religion and for its intellectual and cultural achievements."

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Effigies of the Queen and Rushdie were burned in the eastern Pakistan city of Multan as students chanted: "Kill him! Kill him!"

Well, how rude of you Sir Rushdie to offer your opinion.

In the interest of being pragmatic, Mr. Sajit krachuk, Turkey is a Secular Islamist state, how do you feel about this..

*sigh*
With demonstrations of insanity like this, how can the 'liberal left' continue to champion the cause of the Jihadis? These people stand against every notion of free thought, press, and conciensce that the lefties are supposedly in favor of!
And Pakistan is an 'ally' in the WoT...G.B. has a huge number of Pakistani immigrants...this is only going to get uglier.
Hmm...that was kinda random...my apologies.

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If memory serves me right .There were plenty of right wing christian Americans baying for blood when the Life of Brian and the Last Temptation of Christ were released.

Lunatics are in every country and in every religion. We have too many in the Muslim world as Christianity has to many of them in America..

Turkey is not an Islamist state. It is a "parliamentary representative democracy"

Hold up...
The ONLY contemporary parralell to the Islamic Fundamentalists in America vis-a-vis calls for violence are the Westboro baptist Church nutjobs, and the isolated crazies like Eric Rudolph who bombed an abortion clinic. They only number around a hundred, and are marginalized and shunned by every Christian organization in the country...thus I take exception to your attempt faux subjectivity by putting fundamentalist Xtians in the US in the same categor as those people...they may be backwards, bigotted morons; but they are not, by-and-large bloodthirsty and violent...I am sure I will see some reply with the name 'Timothy McVeigh' in it now...
Apples and oranges people. I have heard this old canard from pretty much everyone on the left that I discourse with...
And I for one realize Turkey's unique place among nations with a majority Muslim population!

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Eh...left this out...you say America has violent Xtians, but let's ask EXO about the Troubles, aye?

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The Irony is Americans preach's to the rest of the world. When back home they have Scientologists, Mormons, Jehovahs witness's and the infamous West Boro baptist church etc. How you have the audacity to preach, when you have so many messed up heads in your own country is mind blowing. A minority of muslims wish to do harm to the west. The rest of them that are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, Just want you out of their country. Just as you would fight to kick somebody out of your country.
I really do get upset with your polarised politics as well. America keeps using the word democracy and freedom of speech and yet delights in labeling people left or right. You really do need to rediscover the ability to debate and open your minds and stop this " everyone on the left " garbage. Some of my views on life are capitalist, others are socialist, some are enviromentalist but the majority are realist because I am old enough to know what works and what doesn't. I believe people have the right to defend themselves but how a so called civilised country can allow so many people to carry guns is bewildering. Canada doesn't need that many and it shares a common history with you. So how about America grows up at long last and stops pretending to have all the answers

The Problem is that more and more Muslims are subscribing to the Perverted Views of Islam.

The Council of Foreign Relationships estimate that 10% of Muslims in Europe alone Subscribe to the Perverted forms: "Oliver Roy estimates fewer than 10 percent of Europe's Muslims actively support radical Islamist causes, but says the result is tainting their neighborhoods. "When groups of young men in white skullcaps [i.e., traditional dress] go door to door criticizing people for not being faithful enough, it affects others," he says. In addition, Roy says, Islam is becoming a "protest identity," so even non-devout Muslims in some European countries are now demanding halal (religiously sanctioned) food in public venues to show their separation from Western societies. "Suddenly, wearing the hijab [the head covering devout women wear] became a way to resist," Cesari says."


This is scary: "In a truly free election in Saudi Arabia with the royal family on the sidelines bereft of the divine right of kings, and Osama Bin Laden as a candidate for prime minister, the world’s most wanted terrorist would win hands down." This was published by Arnaud de Borchgrave, a political socio analyst.

Absolutely Terrifying: "Of approximately 2.35 million Muslims in the U.S., 5% expressed a favorable opinion of al Qaeda. That’s 117,500 people, already in the U.S., agreeing with our enemies that we should be subjugated or killed.

60% do not believe that Arab men carried out the 9/11 attacks. That’s 1,410,000 people, living among us (not including the douchbag non-muslims as well) who believe in a conspiracy theory of some sort.

13% say that suicide bombings of civilians to defend Islam are justified. That’s 305,500 residents of the United States who think it’s okay to strap on a bomb and kill people who are going about their daily business."



It's a damn shame to see such a peaceful religion go down the ****ter like this.

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To say the troubles are purely religion is wrong. It about a loyalist community and a Republican community and all the shades of grey in between. Religion is not the reason, its a red herring. If that was so then how come so many Catholic Irish have served in the British Army over the years?
Speaking as a man with a catholic Irish grandmother from Cork. I am aware of how she was treated by protestant Irish from the North of Ireland in her work place here in England. Some people are just scum and choose to hide behind a religion because they're too institutionalised by their up bringing. They didn't even know she was Catholic, they just knew she was from the Republic.

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I is too intoxicated to respond right now...tomorrow...

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And I'm not preachin'...

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