08-14-2007, 02:46 PM
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Soldiers Advised not to Join Irish Army Rangers
A cheap PR Stunt by the military representitive Body in Ireland called PDFORA
Im sure those serving and ex are appalled at the publicity... its disturbing to us normal joes who went through the Army here too... What are your thoughts on the appropriateness of the below article... theres mixed feelings in Ireland, but Im against the PR, but thing its very wrong theres such a problem in the first place....
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Soldiers advised not to join Rangers
05 August 2007 By John Burke
The elite Irish Army Ranger Wing (ARW) is facing a crisis as soldiers’ representative body PDforra is set to discourage members against joining the anti-terrorist force.
The Sunday Business Post has learned that the specialist army unit has lost experienced members to private security companies in the Middle East and Europe, while others have returned to regular army units, due to low morale over the allowance paid to ARW members.
A request to review and increase the allowance has been turned down. This ha s prompted PDforra to recommend that serving regular army members cease volunteering to join the ARW at the representative body’s forthcoming annual conference, in the absence of a commitment to higher pay and enhanced career paths for specialist troops.
However, the Department of Finance has told PDforra that no additional money is available to increase the weekly allowance of e 143.01 per member on top of the basic salary paid to the 100-strong elite unit.
Private security companies offer salaries of more than €2,500 per week to experienced ex-ARW members to serve as so-called ‘‘shadow guards’’ on valuable cargo passing through European ports.
Ex-rangers can command more than €1,000 per day in Afghani s tan and Iraq, although only a small number are believed to have accepted such high-risk contracts.
ARW troops face heightened risk of injury due to demanding training and duty. All soldiers who joined the army after the introduction of a new system of contracts must now pass rigorous fitness levels at five and 12-year junctures or risk their contracts being revoked.
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08-14-2007, 05:02 PM
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It seems the mighty Euro dollar is more important than a sense of duty for some. When the economy is as strong as it is now, they'll have to get creative with incentives.
Learn from the yanks across the pond, yes?
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08-14-2007, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock-Steady
It seems the mighty Euro dollar
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too much cyber punk? 
the thing is that when the state cant pay as much as the risk requires people do
flee. the modern world gives them that liberty.
its not that much different what we are facing here. but then again.. we
are next to Russia and Ireland is.. well next to sea... and the ever evil brits.
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08-14-2007, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by torspo[fin]
too much cyber punk?
the thing is that when the state cant pay as much as the risk requires people do
flee. the modern world gives them that liberty.
its not that much different what we are facing here. but then again.. we
are next to Russia and Ireland is.. well next to sea... and the ever evil brits. |
The risk have always been there. It's just a fact that when the economy is doing well, our idea of just compensation changes. And well it should...
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08-14-2007, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock-Steady
The risk have always been there. It's just a fact that when the economy is doing well, our idea of just compensation changes. And well it should...
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yes. well i can see you not crossing any boundaries there..
what is your compensation to the eyes of the next generation?
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08-14-2007, 07:56 PM
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btw... i love your sig.
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08-14-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by torspo[fin]
yes. well i can see you not crossing any boundaries there..
what is your compensation to the eyes of the next generation?
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A situation like that with the Irish Rangers is the most reliable way to tell when compensation is inadequate.
Perceptions of fair or adequate compensation fluctuate over time, and is influenced by a government's involvement in military conflicts, economic strength, and feelings of national pride. Good luck trying to predict future trends.
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08-14-2007, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock-Steady
A situation like that with the Irish Rangers is the most reliable way to tell when compensation is inadequate.
Perceptions of fair or adequate compensation fluctuate over time, and is influenced by a government's involvement in military conflicts, economic strength, and feelings of national pride. Good luck trying to predict future trends.
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I'am not trying to...
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08-14-2007, 10:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock-Steady
A situation like that with the Irish Rangers is the most reliable way to tell when compensation is inadequate.
Perceptions of fair or adequate compensation fluctuate over time, and is influenced by a government's involvement in military conflicts, economic strength, and feelings of national pride. Good luck trying to predict future trends.
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it doesnt give a ****...really.. we can argue here what is what.
sweet.. because youv never been in one your as much "bad" as people are.
"wash away the rain"...
how are you?
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08-14-2007, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by torspo[fin]
...your as much "bad" as people are.
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Roger that!
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