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Bhutto: Who ordered her killing?
Bhutto: Who ordered her killing?
By Frank Gardner
BBC Security Correspondent
Ms Bhutto made many enemies in Pakistan
Who killed Benazir Bhutto?
The actual assassin, when and if his identity is discovered, was doubtless someone most people will never have heard of.
What matters is who sent him and why.
In the fevered speculation now gripping the streets of Pakistan there are essentially two conflicting theories.
The first theory, the one espoused by the Pakistani government, is that al-Qaeda or the Taleban, or even both, were the killers.
Certainly the method of attack - a suicide bombing in a crowded place - is al-Qaeda's favoured modus operandi, although the assassin was taking no chances by also opening fire with a pistol just before he blew himself up.
Both al-Qaeda and the Taleban had every reason to want Ms Bhutto dead.
Anathema to Islamists
As a secular, Western-educated, female politician with close ties to Britain and the US, she represented much that is anathema to Islamist extremists.
She also publicly criticised President Musharraf for not doing enough to curb their power in Pakistan and she accused the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan's powerful military intelligence arm, of harbouring Islamists with sympathies for al-Qaeda.
Much will depend on whether Ms Bhutto's assassin was sent by someone inside or outside mainstream Pakistani society
If al-Qaeda was behind this assassination its normal tactic would be to wait for a while to encourage confusion and then release a carefully prepared statement on the internet, laced with religious phraseology, praising the assassin and listing its reasons for the attack.
The conflicting theory, taken up by many of Ms Bhutto's supporters, is that the government of President Musharraf is to blame.
Specifically, they blame elements in the ISI who they believe felt so threatened by Ms Bhutto's potential return to power that they took drastic action.
Inside or outside?
Despite the passion with which some hold this conviction there is no independent evidence to support this and in the absence of a truly transparent investigation the truth may never come out.
Woven into Pakistan's complex political fabric are a number of militant Islamist groups that belong to neither al-Qaeda nor the government yet have ties with one or the other, or even both.
For years the ISI supported the Taleban in Afghanistan and for years it supported Kashmiri separatist militants.
Musharraf claims to have rid the army of its Islamist elements
Although President Musharraf has gone to some lengths to convince Washington that he has purged the ISI and the military of anyone with links to terrorism, there are many who suspect some of the old ties have yet to be broken off completely.
In the coming days and weeks Pakistan's internal security situation will depend in part on whether Benazir Bhutto's assassin was sent by someone inside or outside mainstream Pakistani society.
If the culprits are found to be from outside, such as al-Qaeda or the Taleban leadership, then this could possibly have a unifying effect on Pakistanis, most of whom are appalled at this kind of extremist violence that has destroyed a national figure.
If however the culprits represent a recognisable faction from within Pakistani society - and especially if that faction were connected to the government - then there is a risk of far greater unrest to come.
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12-29-2007, 06:40 PM
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Simple....who had the most to gain from her loss? President Musharraf, maybe .....What a tragic loss for the world.....She was not only brave and commited women to her ppl....but one of democracy.....huge loss for the world..
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12-29-2007, 06:44 PM
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Bhutto's assassination was US backed to destabilise the region still further and legitimise their presence in Afghanistan. A very brave lady but a pawn in a much bigger game.
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12-29-2007, 07:45 PM
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Honestly... she had it coming. Her behavior just about proved that she failed to understand the Islamist mind. When she returned to Pakistan, she gave the dumbest, most ignorant speech i've heard for a while. She said, I believe I am safe in my country...they won't attack a woman because it's against Islamic law and they know if they do they will burn in hell. 
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12-29-2007, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock-Steady
Honestly... she had it coming. Her behavior just about proved that she failed to understand the Islamist mind. When she returned to Pakistan, she gave the dumbest, most ignorant speech i've heard for a while. She said, I believe I am safe in my country...they won't attack a woman because it's against Islamic law and they know if they do they will burn in hell. 
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We hear ya! Rock. See...Sadly, it is hell. We belive no one... no matter how stupid and arrogant they are..... no one but the enemy deserves to be confronted and killed from an attack or hit....She was dumb..No security team...Still theirs no honor or justice in it.....Now if it we're the enemy.....that's a different story...See it's hell. More importantly.....We only hope this doesn't get in the way of our American and UK brother troops and the job that their doing and that needs to be done.....
She may have been stupid and arrogant but she had balls.....That's alot more then can be said for most of the world leaders we have today.....We need stability in the region.....Where's Ronnie when we need him the most.....
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12-29-2007, 09:20 PM
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Shame to see someone so important to the region's stability go. I agree that her choice to come back may have been misguided, but she felt a calling to help the people she loved.
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12-30-2007, 06:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simply red
Bhutto's assassination was US backed to destabilise the region still further and legitimise their presence in Afghanistan. A very brave lady but a pawn in a much bigger game.
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What??... The ALLIED presence in Afganistan is UN mandated and backed.. that means the US presence will the coalition is legitimate... wow.. thought that one through didnt ya!!..... 
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12-30-2007, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rock-Steady
Honestly... she had it coming. Her behavior just about proved that she failed to understand the Islamist mind. When she returned to Pakistan, she gave the dumbest, most ignorant speech i've heard for a while. She said, I believe I am safe in my country...they won't attack a woman because it's against Islamic law and they know if they do they will burn in hell. 
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Failed to understand the mind of the the Islamic Fundamentalist.. for sure.... but dont most?... She made some incredible mistakes, but was the biggest threat to Musharriff... and if she replaced him, the Tribes in the provincial regions would get the mother of all crackdowns, and bye bye safe haven for Al Quada and Taliban.. life would be much more difficult for them... It smells of Al Quada with collaboration from Musharraff's people...
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12-30-2007, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Exo1
What??... The ALLIED presence in Afganistan is UN mandated and backed.. that means the US presence will the coalition is legitimate... wow.. thought that one through didnt ya!!..... 
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UN backed or not is irrelevent because the agenda was set before 9/11..........Pakistan is a powder keg waiting explode. A nudge here or there is all it will take and the whole country will go up......... BANG!
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12-30-2007, 11:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simply red
UN backed or not is irrelevent because the agenda was set before 9/11..........Pakistan is a powder keg waiting explode. A nudge here or there is all it will take and the whole country will go up......... BANG!
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Haha... good man, no point admitting you were wrong!!.  ..  ... and yes, Pakistan has being a power keg for some time now... I agree...
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