
02-12-2009, 10:21 PM
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Blue to Green for Officers
Hello, I am new to the forums. I am a 2nd LT in the Air Force and am trying to do a Blue to Green transfer. I have sent in my application package to HRC on the Army side but it seems that nobody on the Air Force side knows exactly how the process works. Today I was informed that it would take 15 months for my paperwork to be processed through the Air Force vs. the Army who can have orders cut for me in 3 months. I have read that it must go all the way to the SecAF to be approved but I don't believe it should take almost a year and a half! I have been searching all over the internet to try to find some sort of Air Force Instruction/Manual on the topic and have not found anything helpful. I did a search of these forums and nothing turned up for an officer transfer. Has anybody done this before as an officer, especially Air Force to Army? Any thing you know/have heard would be helpful. Or if someone you know has done the process, could you send them my way?
Thank you!
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02-13-2009, 07:42 AM
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First off welcome Eltee, Sir. As far as I know you're the only officer on this site.
I was always under the impression that your contract with the branch you're in has to be met before you can transfer to a different service. Of course if you're given an early out from your contract that would be a different story.
If the Air Force said 15 months then I would resign myself to that. In the meantime be the best officer you can be (can you take any Army correspondence courses?). Be an asset to the AF, study & learn leadership techniques. The Army has an altogether different philosophy as I see it.
Are you able to transfer your MOS to the Army? What equivalent branch are you in now? I'll take a guess & say it's not Infantry.
Please let us know what happens. We need information so we can pass it on to others.
Also tell us a little about yourself. How you got your commission, what you do in the Air Force (OPSEC permitting). I'm truly interested & will try to dig as much info out that I can but it seems doubtful that I'll be able to.
It's good to have you aboard, Sir.
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02-13-2009, 07:42 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Arkansas
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Go see your local Army Officer Recruiter. Every recruiting area has one. I can assure you that he will have some insight on how to speed up the process. I can also assure you that it is the Air Force that is causing the delay. I assume that many of the problems associated with this move are, Did the Air Force pay for your college or student loans? How long do you have left on your current enlistment...do you have enough time to make it worth the Armies time to transfer you? You might need to re-enlist to make it more attractive for the Army. Does your branch have a shortage and does the Army need officers of your branch? What about dependants and any special help that they may require? Lots of questions and no one to answer. If you cant find the Officer Recruiter in your area then find a ROTC officer at the nearest College. Good luck and I hope this helps.
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02-13-2009, 02:50 PM
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MSG Glenn, thank you for the welcome! I didn't realize I didn't specify which gender I am hahaha, I am female though, but I don't blame you for assuming I was male. I even get called sir at work sometimes just because people are in the habit of talking to more men than women.
I asked an Army Human Resource Command contact about getting out of my contract early and she said that "It was up to the Air Force." Not much help. Unfortunately my MOS is Weather...which the Air Force actually does for the Army so if the Blue to Green thing doesn't work out I could easily get an assignment to an Army post, but I would definitely rather transfer. The job I am after is quartermaster. I want to get my master's degree in Logistics Management and after I'm done with the military (not planning on making it a career) I want to go into management. As far as Army correspondence courses I am not sure if those are available to me or not. I have been told by many that the Army is a whole different world, but from what it sounds like I think I would prefer that style.
I got my commission from Colorado State University in December 2007. and am now stationed at Barksdale AFB in Louisiana and my job mostly entails of writing forecasts for several bases/posts and putting out weather watches and warnings for various sites in southeastern CONUS -- you know those annoying boxes that pop up in the bottom right corner of your computer to tell you something like "Lightning within 5 miles?" Well those come from where I work!
Yes reconmedik, I did receive a scholarship for college from the Air Force. I owe three more years active duty for the Air Force and then I can choose to stay or go. If I accept a PCS next summer though I will owe three more years after that and three more years for every PCS. It doesn't seem like there is a shortage of Lt's in my field, because many of us who work there don't have any more responsibilities than any of the airmen (I still haven't been given anybody to supervise). It's frustrating. No dependents. The recruiters I went to here in town only seemed to know about the process for an enlisted person.
Thank you both for your helpful replies.
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02-13-2009, 03:29 PM
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Pardon me, Ma'am. You're still welcome here!
I should have done it like I would answer a military phone - "MSG Glenn speaking, sir or ma'am".
Lessons learned.
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US Navy 1960-1966 Submarine Service, Navy Diver-UDT 21
US Army 1980-2001 Airborne Infantry,G3, Army Instructor, Commo Instructor Company 1SG
Retired 1SG/MSG
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02-17-2009, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by keber411
Hello, I am new to the forums. I am a 2nd LT in the Air Force and am trying to do a Blue to Green transfer. I have sent in my application package to HRC on the Army side but it seems that nobody on the Air Force side knows exactly how the process works. Today I was informed that it would take 15 months for my paperwork to be processed through the Air Force vs. the Army who can have orders cut for me in 3 months. I have read that it must go all the way to the SecAF to be approved but I don't believe it should take almost a year and a half! I have been searching all over the internet to try to find some sort of Air Force Instruction/Manual on the topic and have not found anything helpful. I did a search of these forums and nothing turned up for an officer transfer. Has anybody done this before as an officer, especially Air Force to Army? Any thing you know/have heard would be helpful. Or if someone you know has done the process, could you send them my way?
Thank you!
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Hello keber411. I'm a 1LT in the Air Force that's processing an interservice transfer package to the Army.
The Air Force side of the package takes about 2 months, and has to be done before the Army can proceed. You start by meeting with your commander to let him/her know your intentions. Then you log into vMPF and go to Separations. There is a section on Interservice Transfers. You fill it out as it explains and attach a filled out DD368. You'll need to go to a recruiter to get this signed off, then signed by your commander. Scan and attach. Your commander will concur (if you can in fact, be released), and it'll start its ascent to the SECAF office.
Good luck and let me know if you have any questions.
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11-13-2009, 12:15 AM
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Interservice transfer for Officers
Hey I was just wondering if anyone here has inter service transfered air force to army and what training is involved to transfer?
Thanks
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11-13-2009, 06:20 AM
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In the 9 months from the last post we haven't heard from either of them. Can you tell that their silence is deafening?
That happens more often than not. Newbies want all the information in the world, get it & that's the last we hear from them. That way we have absolutely no idea what the disposition is & we get no new info to pass on to others. And those were supposed to be officers? Maybe Air Force officers keep all their information to themselves.
You wonder why senior NCOs have little use for eltees.
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Proud Dad of a US Army Ranger SSG-Former 3/75 Rangers, 2/334-95 USAR at present
US Navy 1960-1966 Submarine Service, Navy Diver-UDT 21
US Army 1980-2001 Airborne Infantry,G3, Army Instructor, Commo Instructor Company 1SG
Retired 1SG/MSG
I was a Soldier. I am a Soldier. I will always be a Soldier.
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