FORT KNOX, Ky. (Army News Service, June 22, 2006)The Army has raised the enlistment age to 42, made possible under provisions of the Fiscal Year 2006 National Defense Authorization Act.
The Army raised the active-duty age limit to 40 in January as an interim step while it worked out the additional medical screening requirements for recruits ages 40 to 42. Before January, an applicant could not have reached his or her 35th birthday. The Army Reserve age limit was raised from 35 to 40 in March 2005.
Raising the maximum age for Army enlistment expands the recruiting pool, provides motivated individuals an opportunity to serve and strengthens the readiness of Army units. More than 1,000 men and women over age 35 have already enlisted since the Army and Army Reserve raised their age limits to age 40.
“Experience has shown that older recruits who can meet the physical demands of Army service generally make excellent Soldiers. They are mature, motivated, loyal and patriotic, and bring with them a wealth of skills and experience to our Army,” said Col. Donald Bartholomew, U.S. Army Recruiting Command Assistant Chief of Staff, G5.
“We certainly do not expect for this change to result in a large increase of recruits, however it will allow for those individuals who have the passion for service, but for whatever reason could not serve earlier in their lives, the opportunity to serve the nation now, when the time is right for them,” he added.
All applicants must meet eligibility standards, to include passing the physical standards and medical examinations; however those 40 to 42 will be given additional medical screening.
For Shannon D. Morris, 36, of Shreveport, La., enlisting in the U.S. Army was a dream-come-true. She said she had wanted to join since she was a teenager but she didn’t get the chance.
“My brother was in the Army and it was always something that I wanted to do,” she said. “My father encouraged me to do it, but I became a mother at a young age and that took the priority.”
Morris thought she had lost her chance, but learned that the Army had raised its age limit when her son, Robert McLain, began talking with an Army recruiter. She said the more her son talked about his decision, the more interested she became in doing something for herself.
“When Robert told me I might still be young enough, the wheels started turning and I thought this might just be my last opportunity to get the benefits for my education and see the world.”
Morris said her family was surprised she wanted to enlist and serve, but they are supportive of her plans. Her mother thought it was a great idea and her husband Rick, a district fire chief who will retire this summer, encouraged her as well.
“My brother thought I was crazy,” she joked. “But he also thought it was great that I was doing it, and I couldn’t believe how supportive everyone was of me. It made me proud to know that they were all behind me.”
Morris, who will be a petroleum lab specialist, left for basic combat training May 25 and McLain followed May 30 to Fort Benning, Ga., where he began training to become a Ranger.
Recruits of all ages are eligible for the same enlistment bonuses and other incentives based on their individual qualifications.
(Editor’s note: Compiled from releases by the U.S. Army Recruiting Command Headquarters and the New Orleans Army Recruiting Battalion.)
Article Opinions
allaine wrote:
since when i come here in the USi thought my dream come true,but not ,cause when i was young i want to be an army or navy,but i dont have a chance to joint when i was young.now im 39 years old can i still joint to army.
06/22/06 19:45:15
Melissa Hilt wrote:
I think 40 is too old to join. My son just turned 17 and he's starting young. why can't anyone else??
06/22/06 21:36:27
cherblake wrote:
i think any1 can join if they are fitter nough im 16 im joining the army now soon
06/23/06 03:42:22
Alan wrote:
This is a great new approach for the Army in trying to acquire knowledgable civilians, to contribute their life experiences to the Army. I believe, as long as the recurit can pass the requirements of entry, he or she should be allowed at any age. Patriotism cannot be curbed by an age restriction in joining the active service of the Army.
Great new change via the Fiscal Year 2006 National Defense Authorization Act.
Alan from San Diego, CA
06/23/06 15:19:50
Steven Thrash wrote:
I am 36 and from the South, with things escallating over the years I thought it was time to do my part, with my age in mind, I worry about basic but will try to show the kids half my age a thing or two!!!
06/24/06 00:00:16
James Velazquez wrote:
I'm 57 yrs. young and I want to join. Ex.Marine and Guardsman.
Still pphysically fit and looking for adventure. I want to go and help my brothers in arms. Yes, I will do Iraq as well! Any comments?
Do I need Help?!
06/25/06 16:59:16
Jason Kessler wrote:
I'm 32 yrs old and plan on joining w/ in 6 months. I feel the best day's of my life are awaiting me.
06/26/06 14:50:12
Scott Nestor wrote:
i have been planing to join now going on just about 7 months and they still dont belive i am a good enough candidate for the army,it seems today that if u mess up once when u where 16 , right after your father died u know they might look at it as some what a symthy case or somthing ,really when the case was dismissed in court . now iam 23 years and matured,and ready to take control of my life and make a career with us army but no, the moral of todays life sould be if someone messed up as a kid and has noty been in trouble since let them in, i mean u got to raise the age up too 42 , what about all the kids u can let in ,and give them a chance to prove themselves
06/26/06 18:59:11
John Bates wrote:
I think if you are fit and mentally challenged to do so , then you are able to join. I am 19 and i am enlisting here in a couple of days. Once I get my GED and get the results back I am off to Bootcamp.
06/27/06 02:20:54
ArmyWife wrote:
My husband is 37 and hes going back into the Army, so I don't think its ever to late for someone that wants to protect there country. I say if you are 40-42 and can make why not?? It has nothing to do with being 17 or 18 yrs old to make it through Boot Camp!! My husband is VERY fit and I know he can do almost as good if not better than the young ones that might be going through boot camp. If you seen JARHEAD, I hope the young ones don't do get scared and stand up on the live fire round. I just hope whoever wants to go into the Armed Forces acutally take this serious. Don't just go for the money!! Do it for your Country. God Bless and Thank You for all the men that are already fighting to keep my family safe when we walk out the door each day. THANK YOU!
06/27/06 15:56:12
David (Andrew Joe) Hasty wrote:
Sure, I would like to be enlisted for the army reserves.
06/30/06 11:00:41
Calli from Germany wrote:
I thing that the Age don´t matter!!
There are 50 jear "old" Men in better phisical conditions than most of the 17 jear old Boys, in USA ether in Germany too.
06/30/06 11:32:24
Doug Carlyle wrote:
i think its stupid for a person that old to be able to join the army, in combat, ou have to depend on one another is fast moving situations, and big diff between a 20 year old and 42 year old. I think the army is doing this because they can not meet recruiting goals each year.
06/30/06 12:08:26
Bill wrote:
If one can pass the PT requirements, then joining should not be an issue.
The "nay-sayers" are just that. They speak from NO first hand experience.
The Average Age Of The 2000+ US Soldiers that have Died In Iraq is 30.
06/30/06 12:31:32
rob west wrote:
I think it's a great idea and I’m 100% in support of our troops. I see the other arm forces eventually doing the same thing eventually…makes perfect senses to me.
All those people who wanted to join that were over the age requirement can sign up....but be careful what you wish for. The Iraq situation will be around for maybe another 10 to 20 years? Are you ready to go to the desert? Are you ready to defend and shoot - and be shot at? It’s a “blast” to shoot – not so fun to be shot at.
Go to a local rifle range and shoot a high power rifle for an hour or so - then ponder what's it's like to be on the other end of that bullet.....Yes..you should think about it.
I feel the Military gives any individual an outstanding opportunity in life. Training, discipline, the pleasure of serving your country and the respect that goes with it….but there is a personal price. Are you willing to pay up?
Now that the age limits have been raised, I will consider joining – after I do a little more research. I’m 38.
06/30/06 13:00:00
JOSE ORTIZ wrote:
GOOD MOVE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR A FEW GOOD MEN AND WOMEN.
06/30/06 13:13:28
BETTY WISE-GANZLER wrote:
i AM NOT SURE HOW MANY 42 YEAR OLD MEN AND WOMEN WANT TO GO INTO ANY MILITARY SERVICE SINCE WE ARE UB A WAR WE SHOULD NOT BE IN. BUT, TWO OF MY SONS HAVE SPENT THEIR 20 YEARS IN THE MILITARY. TWINS, ONE NAVY AND THE OTHER, 82ND AIRBORNE. VERY PROUD OF ALL OUR MILITARY AND I SUPPORT THEM, BUT NOT THIS HORRIBLE WAR.
06/30/06 13:41:12
abdallahalbadawi wrote:
i'm 50 and in better shape than a lot of young guys but i think itdue to genetics my grandfather was in the militarty for 40 years. i can take that challege but didnt get the chance.now i live in a foreign country and not enough income to return home.i wasin the reserves for 12 years.
06/30/06 13:43:14
BETTY WISE-GANZLER wrote:
MY FAMILY HAS BEEN MILITARY FOR GENERATIONS, UNCLES AND BROTHER WWll, HUSBAND, KOREA, COUSINS VIET NAM, SONS, IRAQ. INVOLDED IN TRYING TO FREE IRAN HOSTAGES AND MANY OTHER THINGS. I DO NOTWANT ANOTHER WAR. WEW HAVE HAD ENOUGH.
06/30/06 13:50:14
Ryan Meeks wrote:
I am in the military currently deployed over seas and i have to say that i think it is awesome that older people want to join and join us but dont be in such a rush to come over hear because i am hear proudly but this is no joke over hear and no matter what your age it still affects the mind the same way. One person dying or a 1000 people dying it doesnt get any easier so watch your back and stay safe.
06/30/06 16:16:44
Eric Chester wrote:
This is what happens when the government won't have a draft. If they did, we'd have been out of Iraq long ago or not even have gone in.
As for the age, well, been in the Army, Reserves and Guard. Know a few who are in much better shape in their 40s then those in their teens.
Guess they'll raise the retirement age to 62 for enlisted now, like with warrents.
06/30/06 17:01:50
Ray Jordan III wrote:
...It's about time! -This is the chance of a lifetime. I'm 41 and a prior-service Marine, 300 PFTer. I plan to take advantage of this rare opportunity, because I'm 'too old' to return to duty in the Navy & Marine Corps. So, I'm planning a comeback in the Army. But once a Marine, Always a Marine, though; I just wished the Marine Corps and the Navy would follow suit. I'm physically tougher at 41 than I was at 19. And I still am able to score 300s on both the Marine Corps and Army Physical Fitness Tests. Let the teens go to college; we vets and Xgens ought to be fighting this battle. -not our teenage sons and daughters.
06/30/06 19:28:29
Isiah from SD wrote:
i use to be all into joining the military until i discovered how full of themselves they really were at first i was tooth and nail to join the Marines but after an unpleasent encounter with a recruiter and a few of his recruits the thick headed Marines can get on their knees, but i know there are a few good Marines out there, of course they are either retired, dead, or close to retirement, so i figure who ever wants to join and die aimlessly in a war with NO cause go right on ahead, ill wait to support you until there is a war worth fighting
06/30/06 19:59:18
Eddie Sepulveda wrote:
It's a great thing for them to increase the age limit.I my self would like to join @ the age of 40 that I am now,but I have an re4 from the navy infact that they don't give anyone a chance they are quick to kick people out just for fighting does that make you a bad person ? no but thing happen that you have no control of.If someone can help me change my re4 I would gladly join the army today show me where to sign.
I have a good job paying me 90or better do I need the army ? no! but I want to serve it's my duty I want to be apart of it even if I die doing it. So if you can help me get in it would make my day.thanks
07/01/06 05:59:16
j chadwick wrote:
i think it should be 45 for the max.i would most defently enlist again.
07/01/06 11:09:01
SSG Howard K. Hodges wrote:
Don't assume that 42 is the cutoff and that you can't get into the military because of your background. Often the National Guard can get you waivers that the Active military can't (if you do well, you can transfer later.) More importantly, if you have served before, those number of years plus the new age cut-off is probably the cut-off for veterans. I am NOT a recruiter, but I work with them every day. Let me see if I can help you: I want to help any patriotic Americans who want to serve!
I've emailed several of you who've wanted to join, but your email address wasn't good. If you'll give me the information below, I'll pass it on to a member of our recruiting force who might be able to help. Even if you are in another state, they would be able to help process your request:
I will need:
Your full name
Your Age (you can join at 17 w/ parents permission; otherwise, 18-42)
Tell me your highest education level (you'll need at least a GED)
Give me a brief summary of any Legal problems (save the details for the recruiter)
How's your health? (generally speaking; save any private details for the recruiter)
Your Address
Your Phone Number (home, work or cell)
Are you a US citizen (or at least have a green card)?: Yes or No
If you've taken the ASVAB before, give me your score if you have it (don't worry, if you don't, the recruiter will be able to get it.)
If you served before, what kind of discharge did you get? How many years did you serve & with what branch?
I'll then submit this through my system and a Recruiter will contact you in your area.
Should you feel uncomfortable giving a stranger your phone number/address [my contact info is below], just give me the rest of the information, and you can give the contact info when the recruiter contacts you. I'll have him contact you by email. However, you can talk to me in person at any time [my number is below] or at my work number [Tues-Fri, 8AM-5PM, except holidays.]
While you're waiting for me to pass this info on, you need to gather up some documents for your meeting. Get your drivers license (if you have one), your diploma (GED or high school), citizenship papers or Green card (if you weren't born here), birth certificate, and if you've served before, your DD214. You'll need this when you meet with the recruiter in your area. He'll just make copies (be sure that you get your originals back.)
As soon as I hear back from you with the information above, I'll submit it within 24-48 hrs. You should hear back from someone in your area within the week. If not, email me again.
SSG Howard K. Hodges
Attrition Manager
Army National Guard
(work) 410/653-6791
(cell) 240/463-9915
State Attrition Task Force
Pikesville Military Reservation
610 Reistertown Road
Pikesville, MD 21208
07/01/06 12:45:45
plam wrote:
Not a bad move. bringing experience to the table. maybe not as fast ,but knows when to move fast.....
07/01/06 21:39:30
Trey wrote:
It's great to see them raising the age! That means we can get more recruits and try to win this war!
C'mon U.S.A!
07/01/06 22:26:57
Tom wrote:
The army recognizes that the schools are failing to properly teach kids. The army needs technicians and they know experienced workers are often easier to teach new skills. I imagine there is tremendous pressure to keep all the equipment operational. Many of these support jobs are not much different than regular jobs, however, there are times that the work must be done under extreme circumstances. There are many civilians their 40s and 50s that still do back breaking work. I think the army recognized all these things and made a good decision.
07/02/06 10:12:12
STUART wrote:
I believe that if your out of High School and your not working then you should automatically have to serve your country for 2 years. This will probably also discipline young individuals to being commited to a cause and make a path for their lives. I think it is great that they raised the age limit. I am even going back in to go career. I have experience the benefits of the military and the civilian life. I choose to go in the military because they have alot more to offer.
07/02/06 13:09:04
andy wrote:
i believe that at age 40 you can still do your duty by serving your country.I am 35 and will be joining the army because it is every american duty to serve.
07/04/06 16:06:03
Keith Ganzler wrote:
Betty Wise-Ganzler is full of SH*# i am her son and think she is crazy. i love this country and would die for it. i have served my country for over 18 years i am a 100% disabled vet and we must stand up for freedom.
07/05/06 08:23:17
jmbrown wrote:
An older, physicly conditioned soilder is a far better threat to any oppossing force than a less mature individual. This is basic common sense.
07/05/06 11:22:07
Robert Bird wrote:
I would like to know why it is so hard from someone that has served 14 yrs in the Army Reseves and had a small heart attack over 4yrs ago to get back in when My Drs tell me they do not see any reason why I am not able to rejoin and serve my county.
07/06/06 08:26:47
bansah ebenezer wrote:
ant to know why is too hard for
07/06/06 17:04:44
Ken wrote:
when an 18 year old is ordered to take that hill he is all gung ho. However the 42 year will say "why"
07/08/06 01:01:01
Rennie wrote:
I am 38. Two years ago I felt a strong desire to serve my country, but, I was too old to join the military. I was just past the age cut off. So, I contracted with KBR and went to Iraq. I was in the IZ supporting the troops in an MWR capacity for over 18 months. I loved supporting the troops and actually had a fun job. But, now I am back in the US, and I plan to join the US ARMY because they have raised the age limits.
07/08/06 21:18:07
ALEXANDER CASTILLO SAN ANTO,TX wrote:
i BELIEVE RAISING THE AGE LIMITS OFFERS THOSE WHOM ARE UNEMPLOYED TO RCV SOME KIND OF COMPENSATION AS WELL AS NEW CAREER TRAINING INCENTIVES WHETHER GUARD OR ACTIVE. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. TAKE IT WHILE THE GETTING IS GOOD. YOU HAVE A CHOICE OF JOBS. WHICH EVER IS IN DEMAND AND INTERNAL REQRIREMENT- YOU JUST GOT FREE RIDE. REMEMBER YOU CAN TRAIN TO HAVE DIFFERENT JOB SKILLS IN THE SAME CAREER FIELD NOW. IE MEDIC WITH PT. OR COMM WITH TELCO. TRY IT.
35 YR OLD GURAD MEMBER GOING INTO OFFICER TRAINING SCHOOL.
07/10/06 14:59:31
Maggie wrote:
I think that it is GREAT! If you can meet the mental and physical requirements then you would make an excellent candidate....... However, if you have a family set in place with young children, make sure that you are making the right decision and you consider all of the options that are available to you. Also consider the hardships that you and your family may endure. As a new army wife and a mother of a six year old son, I expected a lot of the benefits and disadvantages of the hardships, but I never thought that it would be this hard. The separation takes a toll on you. You MUST live the "single married life" be a "super-mom". Don't get me wrong, I think we made the right decision, but if enlistment age is getting into the older folks, just consider the advantages and disadvantes that your family may endure as a result.
07/12/06 08:58:53
fernando wrote:
its ok never is to late for a great oportunity no matter what alway is a good chanse to made drean come true...
07/13/06 19:22:23
David wrote:
hey I'm 37 and if the ARMY would take care of my School loan debt ... I would sign up in a heart beat.
for 2 reasons I would do this .. 1) I'd have something to do with all of this energy I have; and 2) That way if I made it back I'd have vet money and army pay to complete my last year in Engineering and Physics
07/14/06 11:51:29
Robert wrote:
Hi,
Hopefully you can answer my question.
I recently read this article about raising the enlist age to 42.
I have asked several Recruiters about enlist and have gotten 3 different answers.
I am 42 years old as of April 20.
I asked 3 different Recruiters if it was possible for me to enlist.
Recruiter Number 1 said “no, you are too old and we can’t even get a waiver. You must be 41 when you enter boot camp”
Recruiter Number 2 said “Yes, you can enlist but you need a waiver.”
Recruiter Number 3 said “Yes you can enlist”
So I have gotten 3 separate answers about enlistment at the age of 42.
The Army’s own website states the last age you may enlist at is 42.
Can you clarify this for me please?
Regards,
Robert
07/18/06 02:08:20
willie wrote:
i joined at the age 36 and out of shape and i did alot better in basic training than guys that were 17-30...its up to the person wanting to do it....42 is not old at all
07/18/06 17:38:20
matt wrote:
its good that the army is accepting the older people, i think this war in iraq will soon come to a close and they will have peace thanks to the brave people of the u.s army.
07/19/06 10:04:24
Matthew wrote:
15 yrs ago I tried to enlist in the Navy. I was turned down because of a 10 % hearing loss in each ear. 2 months ago I found out that i could possibly get into the Army with the loss, being 34 I will not let this chance pass me by. I am going through the process to join. I hope I can put a comment here in 2 months letting people know that I have been accepted.
07/19/06 18:40:05
ms. d wrote:
Im 35 years old and i will join the army soon. I had the opportunity before but for want to be a mom on my early age i couldnt do it. Now that my kids are older enough they support me. That what i want and im gonna go for it. I think this is a great opportunity nomatter what is your age.
07/26/06 19:31:31
John Wayne Mink wrote:
I'm 41, a former soldier (10 yrs), in shape, and am currently trying to return to active duty.
I believe that there are those that were born to be soldiers and those that weren't, age makes no difference.
I feel this is a fine initiative by the Army to allow a mature, driven individual the opportunity to fullfil a dream (or just do their part). I look around and see a lot of "older" people (male and female) that are heads and shoulders above the younger crowd as far as physical fitness goes. One of the things an older, more mature individual can bring into the pot is experience and focus. A lot of young folks have the focus, but lack the experience, whereas someone with both knows where they're at and why they're there.
This isn't a knock on the younger crowd, it's an opportunity for the "not-so-younger" crowd. My 54 yr old doctor uncle, a former Warrant Officer Huey pilot in 'nam with the 101st, feels the same and would return asap given the opportunity.
07/31/06 07:40:48
daniel racicot wrote:
how do I sign up. always wanted to be a marine 36
07/31/06 22:31:55
kathryne Dowling wrote:
I had talked to a recruiter about getting back into the military at age 47- i would have done it but complications from surgery-completely healed now kept me from joining, I was in the medical field and have over 15 years of medical experience and three years of college--any chance of getting back in? In good shape a little arthritis but fine with meds, meet the weight standards- and always scored 275 and above on pt tests
08/01/06 18:56:39
Bill Velleco wrote:
Raising the recruitment age to 42 makes the U.S. Army look desperate as it should. At 42 you should have been retired from the service by a couple of years. What the hell is wrong with the present mind sey of the Army?
08/03/06 13:21:04
JAMES wrote:
bill i think ur a dumb ass that should be shot on site.All i got 2 say is that i got the president an the whole usa back.So Bill Velleco u better stay out of my m16's range. GOD BLESS THE US TROOPS
08/04/06 14:57:21
damian gibbs wrote:
what grades do i need to join the army!
08/10/06 21:24:18
damian gibbs wrote:
What is the first thing i need to do or have before i join the army!
08/10/06 21:29:10
John wrote:
Damn I guess I must be old because when I was in the Army the cut off age was 29 for a 1st term enlistments and 35 for prior service. I could not belief they changed it to 42.
I guess when they cut troop strength back in the late 80's & 90's it bit em in the ass. I could have told them that because I was saying it then that it was going to bite em in the ass. It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
08/12/06 22:16:34
Cory wrote:
Well, if you think about it, in araq you might see a 10 year old with a backpack made of rags and what not, you think aww I thought my kids had it bad off. And as your walking by with the rest of your troops, he pull's out a grenade from his inocent looking backpack which later on after your men were forst to shoot him figure out that the grenade was a grenade filled with sand now you relize this is there fvcked up way of making a joke. later on you raid some terrist house and find a lil girl and the only thing she's wearing is a crudely made dyper. you watch as she walk's past ur men and she pull's the lil string sticking out of the wall which you and your men failed to notice all your men die including you and your family get's alil money from your passing but barrely anuff to live for 4 months with luck. But your wife find's a good paying job that work's out good with (her) family every thing was going great for a long time its been 6 years since you past away the money they got from your passing is long gone and then the bank call's, say's your drounding in debt. House get's taken away from her later on that month.
I put so much thought into how the army would afect my life. Dont look at what I just wrote and say (what a **** head that's never gunna happen to my family!). keep ur thought's to your self and think about the the army....cuz there damned right when they say it will change your life. GOD BLESS!
08/14/06 09:07:08
Robert Courtney wrote:
I think that older recruits bring alot to the table. Many are in top condition both mentally and physically. Furthermore, many are trained in fields that will translate to military careers. Keep in mind the average age for military members during WWII was 26 vs 19 for todays military. Finally, I also think that special operations should also be opened to older enlistees. Age brings a mental maturness not found in some younger recruits.
08/14/06 22:21:13
AzianBoy408 wrote:
I love to serve my country but I didnt have a chance to furfill my dream yet because I have to taking care of my mom at her old age.Now I've been taking the ASVAB test few times but I didnt have a good score since I havent go to colleg after I graduated of HS.I wondering is there any how you can join the military w/o taking that test?like wage it for you.I dont want to wasting my time out here doing nothing,I want to find some direction in life.So anyone have any idea to help me out about this please email me at oneloveonelife408@yahoo.com.Once again thank you so much for your time reading my message.
08/24/06 02:42:54
Sab-Claire wrote:
hi i just wanted to no what the minimum age is to join the army bcos i hav just turned 16 and want to join the army really bad i dont have no GCSEs either. if u hav any useful information please could u email it 2 me at ManchesterGirl7@hotmail.co.uk Thanks
08/26/06 07:01:01
Barbara Fondren wrote:
I have a son who will complete basic training on the 15th of september 2006 and I have often joked with him about me joining but until a few weeks ago thought that I didn't meet the age requirements I am 39 need a few touching ups physically but believe my knowledge and education will help me in doing a good job for my country by protecting and serving the USA so look out cause here I come America
09/05/06 03:48:58
none wrote:
Might be a spelling test.
"wrote:
i think any1 can join if they are fitter nough im 16 im joining the army now soon "
hmmmm......
09/07/06 17:48:35
Dave G. wrote:
Age should not be a factor as long as you can pass the requirements. I am coming back in (37) after a leave of a few years (college) and will whip kids butts in a PT test. I am in better shape than most high school kids. If you can get thru the MEPS physical and all of the other red tape, more power to you. "Bill Velleco" above sounds like a pure liberal. Nothing wrong with the ARMY accepting men/women that are fit and proud enough to care about their country regardless of age. Not everyone had a gold spoon in thier mouth to be able to retire at 42. The way I see it, if you can pass the tests, and get in, you just show America you have courage and desire to not sit around and collect unemployment or welfare. So, to all of you liberals and blasphemers, shut up or put up....OVER AND OUT.
09/08/06 14:24:29
Mr. Kelly H. Bielefeldt wrote:
For me this is the chance to achieve numorous goals, and pass a personal test. The physical reguirements have been in place for a long time and have proven effective inside the selection process. I assumed a huge obligation when I fell in love at the age of 19. I am still with the same woman and have since had two more children with her. Now I am 32 and have a renewed since of hope for the prospect of walking in my Father's shoe's, from whom most of my values come from. I was raised with the belief that this is the best country in the world and it is an honor to serve it in any capcity. Freedom has never been free, and those who are willing to pay the price no matter what age are heroes and deserve our respect.
09/11/06 19:41:18
Mr. Kelly H. Bielefeldt wrote:
In regards to my spelling errors I should have typed "capacity" and not "capcity".
With all due respect to Dave G. and the numerous others in support of this bold move on behalf of our United States Army, I say this to anyone opposed to our current state of affairs especially if you are not in power to change your own environment much less the situation of people who do not live within a democratic government
then "PUT UP OR SHUT UP".
In the profound words of my father: "If you are not going to root for the home team, then get the hell out of our stadium."
There are a great many ways to serve one's country, and one should not be judged by age but by their fearlessness to enforce the ideals inwhich us as Americans hold dear.
09/11/06 20:37:54
alex j. salazar wrote:
it all sounds stupid/ignorant to me.. i've read the comments.. and everybody has a conflicting story.. if the army cannot find an age group that suits them (physical and mental wise) in every way necessary.. they should atleast put out useful information. I'm 22 and considering making a career in a Branch of service.. with this conflicting information.. maybe the navy or marines will be more efficient and useful to me. As for the age requirement.... If they didn't accept me.. they would be losing a valuable assest. Will power and tenacity comes from young age, and intelligence and experience comes with age.. how can they be so narrow-minded!??
09/15/06 19:54:19
Giovanni Visone wrote:
Looks like salazar needs to age a little more and gain a bit more intelligence.
Will power and tenacity (synonymous with courage) are attributes that depend on personality (although they could become factors as bodies and minds get older).
Physcal age today isn't the same as it was 20-30 years ago. Better living standards and health care make for healthier individuals with capabilities that don't deteriorate as fast as they did when Grandpa was growing up.
Isn't being narrow-minded the act of refusing to consider all the possibilities and resources available?
Lastly, value is proven.
09/19/06 05:34:20
Judgin wrote:
Hi ,
my Name is Judgin I`m from germany .
My ask is , if it is posible for a foreign citizen , trought the enlistment in the US-Army to be a US- Citizen .
Then I `d like be a Pride US-Sodier and a Pride US - citizen .
I thank`s for the serious ansfer .
09/29/06 17:08:47
sweethoneydee2003 wrote:
im 31 years old and im plaaning on joining the army.....i think if u can do the physical part of it..than everything is going to be good after that....older woman and men are not going to give much trouble like the younger soliders....get drunk and fight.....plus going to jail....i think the older soliders are in settle body and settle mind..
10/04/06 14:00:55
sweethoneydee2003 wrote:
im 31 years old and im plaaning on joining the army.....i think if u can do the physical part of it..than everything is going to be good after that....older woman and men are not going to give much trouble like the younger soliders....get drunk and fight.....plus going to jail....i think the older soliders are in settle body and settle mind..
10/04/06 14:02:01
Donna Parker wrote:
My 38th birthday is in 1 week. I plan on speaking to a recruiter this weekend. My father was a ranger. I grew up Army, married Navy so the military has allway's been a part of my life. I also believe that the raised age of 42 will bring alot of experience and knowledge to the younger recruits. I have allway's wanted to join, one of those things that you just have to do...not one of those things you regret NOT doing.
10/04/06 22:09:15
Chitarra wrote:
How hard is the ASVAB I freeze up on any test that i take.
10/11/06 13:18:13
Bernard Germain wrote:
After 9/11 I contacted an Army recruiter in order to enlist. I was 40 at the time and was told the maximum age for new recruits was 34. I was dissappointed and wrote both the White House and DOD. I stated that they were ignoring a resource pool of millions of skilled patriotic Americans. The maximum enlistment age is now 42, but unfortunately I am now 45. Is there any way the Army may make an exception in my case?
10/12/06 17:57:20
Judgin wrote:
Für Bernard Germain.
Hallo Bernard, mit grosem Interesse laß ich deine Geschichte und muß dir sagen. Das ich es ebenfalls im Jahr 05 beim Recruitirungscenter in New York bezüglich der einschreibung in die US-Army einiges anfragte.
Grundsätzlich ist es für einen US-Angehörigen oder Alien im alter von 17-34 möglich sich zu bewerben, sofern man nicht schon bei anderen Streitkräften gedient hat. Erfüllt man diese Voraussetzungen wird man nach dem Erfolgreihem Physical test genommen. Doch für die meisten
freiwilligen Aliens scheitert es schon an der s.g Greencard (I-551),um diese zuerlangen muss man: Verwandte 1en grades inden USA haben; mit einer od. einem US-Bürger verheiratet sein; an der Greencard lotterie mit Erfolg teilgenommen haben, Weltweit verlost die US-Regierung nur 55000
Greencards.
Also ist der Weg nach America ein reiner Glückszufall, denn man geht oder es sein lässt.
10/13/06 08:28:12
Rene.O wrote:
I just turned 33 ,and in the process of joining the army. I believe no one should tell you wether you can , or you can't . believe it or not , I still feel like I was 18 , and keep up with my 18 year old brother which is joining the airforce . I have proved my self my brother , and my 20 year old friend I can beat them in any sport any time . any questions?
10/13/06 10:44:44
Alisha Allen wrote:
I am 17 years old and I plan on join the military. IT shouldnt matter what age you are. If you are fit and are able to handle the pressure of being a soldier then you have every right to defend our nation. I just hope that everyone relizes that its not a game and that there are chances and risks involved with your decision on joining the military. Just stop and and THINK!!
10/14/06 21:24:21
eric wrote:
STOP AND THINK.....I was in the middle east kicking sadom's a-- when you were still sh---ing on your self (golf war).I'm 42 ,and just reenlisted,when your my age sweetheart ,you dont stop and think much, you just fu--en go for it. when your 17 ,you STOP AND THINK.
10/20/06 02:58:47
eric wrote:
STOP AND THINK.....I was in the middle east kicking sadom's a-- when you were still sh---ing on your self (golf war).I'm 42 ,and just reenlisted,when your my age sweetheart ,you dont stop and think much, you just fu--en go for it. when your 17 ,you STOP AND THINK.
10/20/06 02:59:01
robert Clampitt/short for Jedd wrote:
Im 44 and joined the navy when I was 32. I got out of the navy in 2003 when I was 40, and after experiensing the civilin life. I wanted to enter back into the military. I tryed to go back into the navy, but was informed that I was to old, but could enter the naval reserve, so I have been in the naval reserves for the last five mounths, however once I heard that the army had raised the age to enter active duty. I then asked to be released from the navy reseves to the army. I am due to ship Jan 24 will be an 88m. My age is kinda got me concerened with how hard it will be to fit in with lower rank e-4 at the age of 44. Any army members encouragement of what I can expect my e-mail rbclampitt@yahoo.com
10/20/06 22:31:33
VERY IMPORTANT TO ME wrote:
Veteran: I am 47 and would love to go back in the Army. I feel it will help having veterans come back because of their experince. Additionally, it will increase recruitment. The Army still have the classifications of deployable and undeployable. Well if some think we are too old to fight, then we can man the military installation with other duty experiences. That would PAC, Finance, Supply, Cooking, Policing, training, police call, guard duty, maintenance, etc....... So let me back in I will show you better then telling you. SHOW YOU ALL I CAN BE IN The ARMY
10/22/06 19:31:12
Pfc. Randall Davis, Colorado wrote:
I went through Boot Camp and AIT at 37 years old earlier this year at Ft. Leonard Wood, MO. I was denied service 20 years ago after surviving a catastrophic accident when I was 16. I rebuilt my life in service of this country as a Law Enforcement Officer and Security Professional. When I looked into enlisting in the Reserves and found out I could, well, I did. I rec laimed my dream of being an American Soldier that was stolen from me in 1984 due to someone velse's negigance. I was shot twice in the head 22 years ago as of this week. I've been dealing with the trauma of post-shooting survival for years. I've overcome it and rebuilt my life to serve and protect this great country of ours. I would have gone active duty right away except the Pentagon raised the age limit the day before I stepped on the "cattle truck" into basic training. I'm considering now switching from reserve to Active duty within the next year. I don't take being given the opportunity to be an American Soldier for granted, I've worked and waited too da#n long.(MADDOGS,HOOAH!)
11/01/06 22:43:40
Eric Bailey wrote:
Thank you government! It's about time they realized that older people bring something to the field that us young bucks just don't have. Name's Eric Bailey, and I am SERIOUSY considering joining once I leave school. My only concern is that after the war (plus 5 years) we're gonna see military cutbacks like in the 90's. If they do that, then these older recruits are gonna be some of their first targets for discharge, and depending on when the war ends, that may be before these guys get their retirement! 40 now could mean 50 or 55 for the cutbacks, which would be a damnable age to try to start over again with no savings.
11/03/06 02:51:42
Tom West wrote:
I would like the Army to raise the age limit to maybe even 60 for those that would love to serve in the reserves for non-combat positions. I'm 54 and I could certainly fill a spot for the Army that would free up someone younger. I would love to do it but I don't really see it happening.
11/06/06 15:22:09
robert Clampitt/short for Jedd wrote:
I disagree with your opinion on cutbacks of older soldiers to be the first to be cut. I believe the army will want to keep the most quilifyed such as job capibility, and educational level, and experience. You could have a 47 and 23 year old soldier, however lets say the 47 year old has alot more experience then the younger soldier so I believe they could let the younger soldier go home over the older soldier, because of education and experience level, and it is proven that older men can even be in better shape over an younger man
11/08/06 12:43:21
SSG D. LANDERS wrote:
The question that I'm wondering about is what will the army policy be about letting a 42 year old new recruit to retire? Will they obtain a age waiver to stay in until 62?
11/11/06 22:00:03
Marks Jekabsons wrote:
Raising the army enlistment age has its plus and negatives. Plus side is you will get more mature and wiser people in the military, but negative side is age,42 years is a bit too old and the body is a bit more fragile then lets say about 18-30 years old. If they raise the age requirements higher, I think they need to limit the job oppurtunities based on physcial challenges, unless, the person is in extremely fit in shape. Otherwise raising age limits is not a good idea. Look at these old politicans and what good they are doing to our country.Lol?
11/14/06 14:16:53
Patrick Martinez wrote:
I have 21 yr's in i sure would give any thing to get back in but i'am 56.
11/14/06 22:52:10
Phil wrote:
Hello. I turned 43 last month. I'm in great shape and have a masters degree. I also have a felony conviction from 17 years ago that's keeping me from getting a good job. The felony was for possession of stolen property (nothing else on my record). Is it possible to get a waiver and join the Navy reserves or the Army?
Thanks,
Phil
11/17/06 10:32:13
PFC Kirk Bennett, Det1 Co.A 2/112th Inf. wrote:
I am 46 with 4 years in the Air Force(77-81) and have just joined the Army National Guard as a PFC. My ASVAB was high on all 5 and I was offered any MOS. I chose 11B(Infantry) because I am a Warrior. I am in the best physical shape of my life and am ready to fight. Don't let others discourage you. I had a Major General sign my age waiver since even my previous 4 did not allow me to enter. I missed it by a year but Representative Bill Shuster(PA.) and my recruiters, Sgt Williams, Sgt Weyandt, and Sgt Battafaranno knew the rules. We are all Americans and we are not engaged in a worthless war. We are the ones who will keep this country safe. If we don't take the fight to them they will bring it to us and worse, to our families and friends. This is not a game to me, this is dead serious.
11/24/06 20:14:00
Phil wrote:
PFC Bennett,
Thanks for your comments. Unlike you, however, I have no previous service. I'd love the chance to serve my country and provide a better life for my family, but I called the two closest recruiters and I can't even get a return phone call. What's worse is I live way out in the country and don't really keep on the news. Found out about the age limit being raised to 42 a month after my 43rd birthday. Story of my life-Day late and a dollar short.
Thanks again,
Phil
11/27/06 11:05:40
robert Clampitt/short for Jedd wrote:
I am 44 with seven years active duty in the navy. I asked my recruiter why they raised the age to enter active duty in the army, and he explained to me that younger men just aren't joining, because they want to go to college and have fun, so the age catagory is between 30-42 who are joining. If I stayed in the navy. I would retire at 52, however sence I got out in 2003 and had a break in service. I wont be able to retire from the army untill I am 57. Still not bad for retirment, but I will agree still old to retire from the military, but not in the civilen life, because alott want retire untill their 65.
11/27/06 11:51:47
Tim wrote:
What about opportunity for individuals over the age of 42 to join and serve their country? I know of several of my professional colleagues, myself included, who would join if given the opportunity. These individuals range in age of 48 through 52. I might add that each one is in excellent to peak physical condition. When competing with and against younger men it is a usual occurrence that the older men complete the task with a victory. If the physical side is that important – I believe we can excel! When it comes cognitive abilities I don’t necessarily believe the older generation is any more intelligent, it just seems that with the differences in generations and the learned experiences the older soldier has a definite advantage. Though today’s youth is growing up in the technology age and it is us, the “mature generation,” who are learning and working right along side of the younger generation in this new age! By no means are we being left behind!
11/30/06 16:28:53
kafele green wrote:
i am 17 teen years old i want to joining the usa army
12/07/06 13:20:19
Christina Flores wrote:
I think that the younger troops should get more learning time before they are sent off to war, because there are alot of them not coming back. That is terriable, and I would like to see my brother that is 19 come back to us alive.
12/18/06 21:18:38
Marlene Ubau-Alvarez wrote:
I'm 39 years young. I'm a servivor
lost my mother and 13 year old brother when I was only 9 under the regimen of Anastasio Somoza.
I'm proud to be an AMERICAN citizen today.
Marlene Ubau-Alvarez
PLEASE BRING OUR BOYS HOME.
12/24/06 05:49:19
blake wrote:
thats good because age don't matter a 40 year old can be in better shape then a 17 year old
12/28/06 11:10:08
Ryan wrote:
i plan on joining our army and i am proud give our heros faith!
12/28/06 11:30:24
MAhawk wrote:
The fact of the matter is that too many 17 year olds are running into the Army. They may be in great physical states but their mental state is something that is highly questionable. While at the opposite side of the spectrum you have near to 40 year olds who are joining that are mentally matured but also physicaly questionable. I say if they are letting in the younger ones why not let the older ones in. If not to swell the ranks but also to help the opposite ages help each other.
01/12/07 17:21:11
Kallie wrote:
No one is ever 2 old to serve their country.. I believe if u are able to walk u can join..
01/13/07 01:55:49
Duane wrote:
Joining in the Army is a good choice to make. Whether you are old or young as long as you have the capability and be able to meet those requirements. I am 30 year old and married with one child. Joining in the Army has always been a part of the plan in my life since H.S. but I didn't have enough strength to make a final judgment until I meet my wife whose an active duty Officer in the USAF. I know that I will be saluting my wife often but that doesn't matter to me anymore. Anyway, this whole thing is isn't about being inspired by one but to make a final and wise decision and not only to protect this country but to also protect myself and my family.
01/20/07 01:44:30
noname wrote:
i dont know why the got this asvab test for i like to go .
01/24/07 15:41:15
noname wrote:
i am 41 i still want to go to the army.
01/24/07 15:57:36
Timothy Nagy wrote:
Since the maximum age to enlist is now 42 years old, has the mandatory retirement age of 60 years old changed to 62?
02/01/07 05:19:08
Rea wrote:
Its Not about the age or about the war but look at it this way age limit rising or the draft? I am a 18 year old female and i think that this will be good for the army many of my family was i the army and have retierd they now say that they would do it again and i plan to do it my boyfiend is in the army and loves it so if they didnt get to start out young so what they deserve a second chance at what they want to do in life dont knock them for their age just let them do it if they want to i think the age limit being raised is great!! all they need to do is meet the other reqiements!
02/03/07 11:15:52
Steve P wrote:
I wish the military would make it easier for foriegn nationals to join the ranks. I am Canadian and would love nothing more than to join the American Army or Marines, unfortunately, I need a greencard to do so, which is next to impossible to obtain.
02/03/07 12:33:39
Millifone wrote:
I don't think we should handicap ourselves with ageism. There are 60 year olds serving in the military. So while a minimum service of 20 years is necessary for earning retirement, there should also be a means for those willing to serve their country to waive retirement benefits to do so. I do not believe that this is about retirement only, I believe there is definite bias against older folks. Coming from a country whose warriors young and OLD beat back aggression countless times tp preserve a tradition of never being colonised I can say ageism is as idiotic as it is crippling to the United States. Evaluation should only depend on capabilities and a mental capacity. Age is a state of mind.
02/13/07 10:04:52
Jeff Harris wrote:
Only a retard would join with the War to Enrich Halliburton in progress.
02/21/07 23:55:34
james wrote:
is this before their 43rd birthdate? or 42nd birthdate? for active army. They need to be in basic training by then?
02/26/07 11:08:51
Glenda wrote:
I think the age limit ought to be raised to 50- would join if it were. I planned to join the Army Reserves at age 21 but got side tracked & never did. I am 46, & if I were not past the age limit, would join in a heartbeat! As long as a person is in good health- why not raise it to age 50? or at least 48? More mature soldiers with life experience would be an asset to our military.
03/02/07 20:11:19
Trey Smith wrote:
Wow this is crazy, I inquired when i hit 30, and was told to soak my head. Guess not so picky now eh? :-)
Thought of re-upping, did a tour in germany, frankly was young and stupid back then.
03/15/07 10:48:20
Juan Lairopi wrote:
I was 27 yrs old when I joined the Army. There were many obstacles along the way, ASVAB was the biggest one. Not taking education serious back when I was younger was a big mistake. I had to take night classes to beef up on the 5 required catagories to pass the test. I caught crap for being the oldest private in the entire Battalion, even older than my Drill Sergeants. The whole time everything I did in Basic was a challenge. Now, a Soldier for 17 some years, I never had any regrets of joining then or now. I have meet lots of great people, both Leaders and followers during my time in service. I am a former Drill Sergeant myself and the oldest I've trained was a 41 year old man, the youngest was 17 and they all did just fine. It's not the age that matters, it's the dedication, determination and discipline one is willing to commit to. I love this great nation and I am willing to fight alongside young or older men or women who is ready to protect U.S. and our way of living. GOD BLESS U.S.A.
03/19/07 11:18:43
Matthew Lintz wrote:
We have this bias in this country that you are old after 30..I mean look at our pro atheletes that shattered records in their "old" age. I am excited that the Army has given the opportunity for this extended age of enlistment..
03/20/07 13:49:10
Brooke marquette wrote:
Can i join the Army When i'm 16? Or is joining at 17 possible/
03/27/07 20:02:01
Jonathan wrote:
Hi, I am a 42 year old male. I have a bachelors degree in Computer Science and am the President of a successful telecommunications company. I grew up trailer trash poor and neither of my parents graduated from high school. I graduated from a little high school and moved out on my own at 15. I started off living in the back of a 1967 Chevy Van behind a Chevron gas station and put myself through college on and off which took 12 years.
I know have a seven figure net worth and a million dollar high-rise condo in Marina del Rey California and the life-style that you would imagine goes along with that. I just found out about the military age limit entry being raised to 42. I am single and have the athletic physiology and fitness level of a 21 year old according to my physician, and the results of my physical training tests. I am six foot one, run six minute miles, bench 335lbs, and practice qigong. By the way, almost anyone at my age can achieve these physical results with the proper true nutrition, excercise, and meditation.
I am planning on joining the Army to contribute whatever my experience is worth to benefit the military and I believe the military has a great deal to teach me. The U.S. military is on the scientific technical forefront of almost every horizon and is also a great place to learn about yourself. Most people’s negative comments about the military or this country are really a reflection of their own personal issues. It is an honor to live in this country. I am not a native born American and am very grateful for how this country was founded and how it has evolved. For those of you who study history, great leaders, and accomplishments, you know that we are living in the most exciting time in human history even though the news would have you believe otherwise (please try and get out more and get your sources of information anywhere except the television - it would also be great to form your own opinions from your personal knowledge as well).
I urge those of you that have posted careless or reckless statements about this country, its leadership (no matter what party or actions we are all learning and and evolving and that trend is the key), and it’s military to become real students of world history, and how things really work outside of your little bubble so you do not continue to embarrass the rest of us and yourself with your uninformed opinions.
If there are any younger people in the military that could give me some encouragement that might ease my anxiety about serving next to someone as old as I am, I would appreciate the feedback. I have not yet made contact with a recruiter and am a little nervous…go figure ;)
Thank you, and those of you that currently are serving or have served, I am grateful to you.
Cheers,
Jonathan
04/01/07 00:20:59
jonathan wrote:
sorry about my misspellings on my previous post - it was my worst subject in high school and I still struggle with it! ;)
cheers,
jonathan
04/01/07 00:22:45
Brooke wrote:
I think older people should be able to join if they are healthy and strong and pass the physical or whatever. Just not over 50 something...you know? And can people join at 16 cause i'm sixteen and really want to get in!
04/03/07 21:58:10
Cindi wrote:
I think that the people who sit here and criticize the age limit are those who would never try themselves, no matter what the age. Stop complaining and do it yourself, if you can handle it.
04/06/07 07:31:58
Michael Dugger wrote:
I'm 52 and I want to make the rest of my life meaningful.I wish the Air Force would give me the opportunity to serve and make a contribution
04/07/07 13:02:44
Juan Puig wrote:
Too bad the other branches of the military arent raising their enlistment age also. I'd join the Air Force. By the way, i just turned 40. God Bless America.
04/11/07 19:12:25
D.C. wrote:
This site seems like Governtment propaganda. I doubt these testimonials are even real people.
04/12/07 19:51:45
Orlando Rivera wrote:
I am44 years old and when I wanted to join for the first time i was 37 and the age limit to join was 36 years. Now, unfortunately, eventhough I am in good shape and good health Im told I am over the age limit. I have written to the President about the fact that the age limit should be raised to 46 years old if you can pass all the pt tests and all . If anybody in the military recruting offices reads this opinion, contact me if there's an opportunity to make my dream come true in serving my country at my age ( 44 years `old soon to be 45). I am sure there many men like me wanting to have this chance also. My email is or2596652002@yahoo.com.
Orlando from Puerto Rico.
04/17/07 01:15:12
Marlene Ubau-Alvarez wrote:
Are we loosing our children?
Young or old it dosen't matter.
PLEASE AMERICA. our kids are killing eachother right here at home, and others are fighting
a war. That to us don't belong.
Something needs to be done.
God bless America.
05/02/07 04:17:28
Marlene Ubau-Alvarez wrote:
Brook U-R our Future.
God bless you, is great that you want to serve, just wait a little longer.
M.U.A.
05/02/07 05:57:10
Marlene Ubau-Alvarez wrote:
ChristinaFlores
I hope our leaders do something about it. I'm a mother of three.
M.U.A.
God bless you and fam.
05/02/07 06:16:49
Marlene Ubau-Alvarez wrote:
Mister. Kelly H. Bielefeldt.
Sir. I salute you.
M.U.A.
05/02/07 06:39:31
Marlene Ubau-Alvarez wrote:
Jeff Harris
If legal? would you consider giving up your naturalisation to Steve P. ?
M.U.A.
05/02/07 06:52:52
Crystal wrote:
Does any one know how many times I can submit a waiver to rejoin the army. I got a honorable discharge under personality disorder. Submitted a waiver 2 yrs later and got denied.
05/02/07 19:25:54
Sam- Iraq is a Liberal war wrote:
I am 32 yrs old and an old political activist, I dont always agree with our leaders and believe that our current leader couldnt run a Denny's let alone the country. However, we as counrty cannot be isolationists; we cannot just sit back and watch the world tear itself to shreds. Sure we have problems here that need to be delt with, but we are not as lucky as we are skillfull to have the greatest nation on earth. One that is actually built from the populace of the world and whoms public is willing to volunteer there time and lives for justice and humanitarian efforts. I for one would like to go to Afghanistan and burn down some poppy fields, theres an issue that direclty relates to our problems at home.
05/03/07 11:53:17
Marlene Ubau-Alvarez wrote:
This message is for Sam- Iraq a liberal war: sam you seem to be good with the pen, stop putting our leaders down and make a differents with your writing. God bless you. M.U.A.
05/16/07 21:27:59
Mikey wrote:
I am 57 and, given the chance, would reenlist. I currently work for a RR in a very physically demanding job already. I served our nation during the Vietnam conflict and I would go to Iraq, Iran, or Afganistan given the chance.
I would hope though, given an older persons education, experience, and maturity that we could come back as an O-2 or better.
I hate to see our young people dying in this current conflict. There are probably thousands from an older generation that would jump at the chance to get back in and head to Iraq for some payback.
05/24/07 07:55:08
Doby wrote:
After seeing the Iowa story on 60 minutes Sunday started me on a search to find out how and if possible to join at age 50. Like some of the other authors on this page I am in great physical shaper (marathons and triathlons) and have put in my work time that going and serving my country should be an option made available to us. If anyone knows a way, contact me. -- Thanks
05/28/07 14:29:24
claudy saint-louis wrote:
not bad.it's nothing for i can do it. if you the test i pass i am going to promise it's not gonna be difficult for me.
05/28/07 22:32:40
Marlene Ubau-Alvarez wrote:
Sam-iraq is a liberal
Put your pen at work.
Marlene Ubau-Alvarez.
06/06/07 05:57:48
Mark Elders wrote:
I am a very healthy 42 year old man. I turn 43 on Sept 13th and for the past 16 years (believe it or not), I have care-gived for an alzhiemer's stricken mother, who recently passed away. Because of my devotion to my Beloved Mother, I could not leave her to join the National Guard. Now that she is passed, I would like to join and was surprised that I was told I was too old. I am very physically and mentally fit and would love to serve my state, Alabama, and the USA. I was advised to write a letter to Lt. General H. Steven Blum, Chief, National Guard Bureau to request an age waiver. Below is the letter. Does anyone have any tips on how to get an age waiver? I am eager and ready to join the Guard, if it weren't for the age cutoff.
Any comments on this letter below? I hope it is effective in getting me an age waiver. Please feel free to respond. I am at MarkHElders@hotmail.com.
June 1, 2007
Lt. General H. Steven Blum, Chief, National Guard Bureau
111 South George Mason Drive
Arlington, VA 22204
RE: Age waiver to enlist in Army National Guard
Dear Lt. General Blum:
Sir, I wish to serve my country and my state, Alabama, in the Alabama Army National Guard, however, I learned recently that I am a few months past the age requirement for non-prior service. I wanted to join a few years ago when the war started, but I was care-giving for my Mother, who recently passed away from Alzheimer’s. Now that my dear Mother has passed away, I wish to enlist; however, my exact date of birth is September 13, 1964.
I hereby request an age waiver, please. I have written my governor, and talked with officials in Alabama, and was recommended to write to you. In addition, I have a specialty to offer. I graduated from The University of Alabama at Birmingham in 1991, with a BS in Accounting and I earned my CPA certificate in 1995.
I understand one reason for the age 42 cut off is because the Guard Members have to serve 20 years to get their pension, and the retirement age is 62. However, I do not want, nor do I ask for retirement. I am willing waive my retirement.
You may contact me at 205-643-0567, which is my cell phone, or by email at MarkHElders@hotmail.com.
Thank you for your time and consideration and I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Sincerely,
Mark Elders
620 19th Terrace South
Birmingham, AL 35205-6412
06/08/07 14:32:58
NoName wrote:
So long as the applicant is healthy and fit enough then age should not be an issue, raise the maximum age further than 42, there are many able and willing volunteers waiting, some with previous military service and many with useful skills and experience.
06/11/07 21:20:15
Richard wrote:
Hi, what is the minimum age to join the army at? I really want to know...
-Rich
06/21/07 23:29:44
Michelle wrote:
I have always wanted to join the military. I am now 56 years old and the desire is there. When I found out I could still enlist, I was too old (by their standards). Surely the military could use nurses and doctors with the war still going on. With our active members off to war, we could serve in the Reserve units.
06/28/07 17:26:45
Sarina R. Pahle Temperance, MI wrote:
I am 46 years old Divorced, and I have no children at home. I'm 5'1 117lbs. I'm very physically fit. I work out all the time. Could probaly out-run Mid 20's to Mid-30 year olds. And the military has stipulations on age. Come on, we all know that over half of the people that grew up in the 60's and 70's are probably in better shape now than most of our youths these days. I truely want to join the military and serve my country. And they complain that recruiting is down. Let the people that want to join, give them a chance. After all, We are alot more mature in the 40's than teens or 20's etc.
06/28/07 18:37:12
Jose Serrano wrote:
I was enlisted in the njarng in the middle 80s field artillery was my mo due to unforseable problems I was honorably discharged after only one year that believe me was the worst thing that has happened because I'm finding it hard to shake it I feel as there's unfinished bussiness in my short military career. I live with the regret that now I'm 43 yrs of age I'm not able too help my fellow country men. Everytime I've tried to get some answers on how I could return I've been shut down and this is been going on for many years. I have a son who is the marine corps, my wife is serving in Iraq, and my step-son is entering bct for the army. I would love to serve my country. As of right now I'm in fort hood tx, can anyone give me any advice or is just to little to late.
07/10/07 09:52:44
Gregory Scott Wright AKA gun shot wound wrote:
I used to be a submariner for 34months 3 ½ yrs ago and I hated it the overall moral was terrible down there so now I drive an 18 wheeler over the road but at least I could always go back to being a truck driver. I think its about time to join the marine corps they could probably use a few older bit stronger men like me. My energy level though now isn’t quite like it used to be when I was 18-21 but I think that today given that I am more mature I could in battle make better more decisive reactions and also my overall brut strength is greater than it used to be which is better to melee or just transporting heavier loads of munitions. I think that these wars were both wars of choice that Americans have a moral obligation to. I agree with one of the other writers this war should have already been won by generation X. I don’t wont people to remember my generation for being the one who cut and run.good luck all (age26) departing
07/10/07 23:42:53
Daniel Clark wrote:
I am 37 years old, and I plan to enlist in the Army Reserve, as an infantryman. IF I CAN TAKE IT, I CAN MAKE IT. I CAN TAKE IT, THEREFORE I WILL MAKE IT.
07/11/07 20:21:26
eliza wrote:
honestly it is good that the army raised the enlisment age but i think they are desperate for people to join and thats alittle ridiculous.
07/13/07 22:47:26
Charles wrote:
...I'm interested in your recruitement programs,but wish to know if you accept non-US nationals.
My regards.
07/19/07 02:52:04
Alan Volkert wrote:
3 Years, 8 Months, 6 Days, 4 hours and I forget how many minutes ... Extended at the request of and for the convenience of the Government ... Made SGT (E5) in 30 months ... maxed promotion points, PT Tests, even set the push up records at Fort Dix, NJ; Fort Jackson, SC and Fort Hood, TX ... Graduated from the US Army Drill Sergeant School as a frocked Corporal ...
Took my college money and ran with it ... now, with a Masters Degree, I'm too old to reenlist ?
Well, I'll have to keep my medals in the box and pray for our soldiers.
Apparently, that's all I can do. I would be willing to leave my office on the top floor of Building #1 in our Corporate Headquarters complex for the feel of a sniper rifle in service of my country again ...
The Army made me whom I am and I genuinely sucks that I'm considedered too old to pay back that debt.
Ex-SGT Volkert, Minneapolis, MN
(Formerly of 2d Armored Division, Fort Hood, TX)
07/23/07 08:53:57
Dianne Bentley wrote:
I turned 42 in dec. and when I went to go join they said I was too old? how can you guys say the cut off age is 42 when you really mean that it is 41 and you can turn 42 in basic, does this make any sense? to me it doesn't, I still want to join and I would like to know how I can. So any encouragement from the army would be greatly appreciated.
07/26/07 09:42:58
cathy rn wrote:
I am 56 and an experienced ER nurse with 5 years prior service during Vietnam Era...I would join in a heart beat if allowed. heck would even hire a personal trainer to get my self in tip top shape...maybe we should petition the president to make waivers for those of us baby boomers that want to help....Might not be able to run a 6 min mile but can start an Iv or insert an airway in a heartbeat and that is just as important so can bring our wounded home healthy
07/29/07 13:18:41
Juan C. Puig wrote:
Its a shame that the other Branches of the Armed Forces havent raised their Enlistment age as well.
08/07/07 19:46:30
DFM wrote:
I'm 38 years old and I think it's great that the Army has raised the enlistment age. The Navy, Air Force, and Marines should do the same. The way the world of civilian employment is going these days, I may take the plunge myself. I feel that if a person is in good health and is willing to make a sacrifice for family and country then why not let those individuals over 35 join the Army?
Also, many of the former veterans of the Vietnam Era commented that they would be willing to help the military out by way of employment, so that would free the enlisted men and women up to go abroad or wherever the U.S. Government sends them. I also think that a former veteran would be a big inspiration and support to those enlistees. Reason being is that my Pastor was a former Vietnam Veteran who fought two (2)-tours in Vietnam and when members of the military are shipped over seas for war, those recruits generally call or write the Pastor not just because they are facing death, but because he knows the stint of war and combat. My Pastor sometimes talks about making it back from war, especially being in fire fights and yet God brought him through it, because he don't know how else to explain surviving such an ordeal.
08/10/07 09:59:19
Cesar Davila wrote:
Hi, Im 37 years old, I always wanted to join in the ARMY, I was a Assylee Refugee Aproved/Granted but didn't have my Resident Card .. 'Green Card' I had this Inmigration status for 15 years, I was 20 when I came to this country, now I just got my GREEN CARD at the age of 37 years, I felt I was to old for the Army, .. I just found out the Army raised the age .. to 42... I'll Feel PROUD to serve this country, ARMY .. IM ASKING .. LET ME GO.. LET ME GO to fight for this country, to serve wtih HONOR .. I LOVE USA / i didn't born here, but I feel this is my country, .. Im from San Francisco, CA /Planning to join the Army on March 2008 / Cesar D.
08/11/07 22:15:23
Cesar Davila wrote:
Question !? // is there a career into the Army related to 'Law Enforcement' ? - Criminal Justice ? thanks !
08/11/07 22:21:24
DrucillaHaggins wrote:
Hi, Im 16 year old, I always wanted to join in the amy, I was a
Assylee Refugee
08/17/07 11:23:50
Jorge Pachas wrote:
L.A. County Sherriff Dept and LAPD (as well as many other law enforcement agencies nationwide) have reserve programs without an upper age limit. IF you can meet the fitness requirements then you can join. The Army should do the same. I think there are many people older than 42 (I'm 50) that are fit and can fill positions that support the mission and than don't need to be filled by a 21 yr old jock. I hope the military eliminates the age limitation. Does anyone think this will ever happen?
08/18/07 11:53:50
victor wrote:
I am 41 yearsold and just signed a 6 year contract. I am very excited
08/19/07 17:18:29
Charles Fiene wrote:
i am 16 and im going to register pretty soon in like a month or 2 ive always wanted to do this and im finally able to yo god bless america yall
08/20/07 06:29:23
Art wrote:
I'm hoping the age limit will be raised to 45. I have been wanting to do this for a couple of years.
08/24/07 10:08:54
Jones wrote:
I am 51 and outwork all of the 20 year olds. The army should look at the person and their health instead of just setting some limit. I would like to join the army and serve our country.
08/27/07 04:29:52
Kathy wrote:
Thanks for doing this - now my fiancee aged 41 wants to join - and leave his family behind. The new 'mid life crisis' - joining the military at 40.
What are the mortality statistics for the individuals over 40?
08/30/07 12:47:31
William wrote:
I just turned 43 and give me a waiver and i will sighn, had i known back in June they changed the age i would have signed up then, I would really persue this if i could get a waiver.
08/31/07 08:38:08
Anderson wrote:
I have 4 kids. Do I live on welfare, or serve my country...easy answer!
09/04/07 09:03:44
alex wrote:
i think that every person should come home from the war in iraq
09/10/07 09:56:03
alex derheim wrote:
my dad died in iraq 2 years ago. i wish that us americans should drop the adams bomb.
09/10/07 10:00:04
laura wrote:
Our soldiers are coming home with mysterious blood cancers...can you talk about it?
09/14/07 13:55:54
jon wrote:
The DOD & Pentagon are sucking up money faster than a mosquito on Greenspan's arse. ..while other people in this country live on the street or die from very curable illnesses....etc.
And I tell you another thing...."insurgents" in Iraq? Why not? If say China invaded my country of the US, killed innocents, wrote new laws, raped and so on, you bet yer arse I would fight the Chinese invaders.
Military personnel that are involved in Mideast & Southwest Asia operations should have uniforms like a NASCAR race car......full of corporate sponsers. Thats what its all about.....opening up the markets for corporations.
09/16/07 17:23:06
Mrs.harvey wrote:
jon, You're an idiot.
09/18/07 23:05:02
Lee wrote:
Plain and simple, MELISSA you're an a**. Maybe your Fat a** can't comprehend a 42 being physically fit enough to do it. The fact is I am 42 and joining. Honestly my body is in better shape then most 20 year olds. Stuff another fatburger in you face and shut the hell up. Maybe your son is joining to get away from you fat a**
09/19/07 18:54:04
Lee wrote:
Plain and simple, MELISSA you're an a**. Maybe your Fat a** can't comprehend a 42 yr old being physically fit enough to do it. The fact is I am 42 and joining. Honestly my body is in better shape then most 20 year olds. Stuff another fatburger in your face and shut the hell up. Maybe your son is joining to get away from your fat a**
09/19/07 18:55:26
Lee wrote:
Plain and simple, MELISSA you're an a**. Maybe your Fat a** can't comprehend a 42 yr old being physically fit enough to do it. The fact is I am 42 and joining. Honestly my body is in better shape then most 20 year olds. Stuff another fatburger in your face and shut the hell up. Maybe your son is joining to get away from your fat a**
09/19/07 18:55:52
Lee wrote:
Timothy Nagi, good point!
09/19/07 19:11:22
socorro wrote:
i'm a filipino can i become a US soldier? if your website true authories by the US goverment? my side is to know. because my dream is to become member of US soldier.
09/19/07 19:59:48
bimnui marcel wrote:
i was just 10 when i found out that all my attention is directed towards the military and i have often pray to become a die heartded army.iam 23 now
09/24/07 06:28:42
Marlene Ubau-Alvarez wrote:
Kathy, hope you read this message: Be proud of your fiancee
and be grateful that you are part of this wonderful country.
Marlene Ubau-Alvarez
10/04/07 05:07:13
Gina dee wrote:
Here is the story. I joined the National Guard at 42 on March 11, 2005. I was fit and tone. I went to chuch on Sunday and annouced that, "Im 42 and I just joined the National Guard." Boom! May 1, 2005; the age was raised to 42. Just because I was fit and looked as a mid 20 year old asian women, the army should not raised age to 42. It should stop at 38 because 39 1/2 has to go through physical ie mammogram, pap, EKG at your own expense. I just go through that at 44 after discharged from the National Guard in Dec 05 and I'm going back to active duty.
10/08/07 22:40:24
Bigmooch wrote:
I had the distinguished honor of serving in the US Army as an Airborne Combat Engineer (SAPPER) with A co 27th ENG BN (C)(A) at Ft. Bragg, NC for several years. I had the misfortune of being ran over by a dump truck during a training exercise in September of 1995 effectively ending my military career. I received a medical retirement from the Army in August of 1997. Over the last decade I have done every thing with in my power to recover and get back to fighting shape. Now at the age of 38 I think I am ready to go back and finished what I started. My goal is to reenter the Army, submit a 4187 (request form) to go to officer’s Candidate school (OCS) after which I will volunteer to serve as a line office within the ranks of the 75th Ranger regiment. Wish me luck and God's speed!
For those of you older folks thinking of joining up for the first time I offer you this;
You will never, at any time in you life feel a greater sense of pride, accomplishment, and patriotism than the way you feel when you wear the uniform of our beloved US Army. To not serve is to never truly know what you are really made of. To not serve is to rob yourself of the opportunity to experience true commodore, esprit de corps, and a sense of purpose and national pride only born of selfless service to ones nation.
As for myself, I defer to the wisdom Sir William Shakespeare:
“ Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with our American dead.
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger;
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect; “
11/10/07 02:14:48
the wrote:
FFS can any of you use proper grammar?
11/11/07 19:02:24
watercreeper wrote:
Most of you sound like you have a 3rd grade education from Clinton Tech. Clean it up and act like you are proud Americans that want to support our country. Most of you just sound bad.
11/14/07 21:53:57
Shanetel wrote:
I'm glad someone finally noticed that.
If one's circumstances didn't permit enlistment at an earlier time in their life, then being able to join later is a blessing. Some times people don't have the opportunity to join in their prime, but knowing that the enlistment age has been raised is a relief to them I'm sure. There are plenty of people in their early 40's who are just as physically fit as a person in their 20's or 30's. At least the Army allows that, the enlistment age for the Airforce, I read, is 27.
11/25/07 12:36:41
Mom of a Soldier wrote:
I think this is wonderful. Just because a person is older doesn't mean we can't keep up with the younger generation. I've passed the age limit but if I could I'd sign up in a heart beat. I know first hand what my son has been through, not good, this war. I'd love nothing more than to be able to fight right along side him. Very proud of all our Soldiers & for keeping the US free.
11/30/07 04:09:05
Joe B wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am 42 as late September 2007.
Can anyone tell me if it is or is not possible for me to join the army?
I am in good shape, college degree and 20 years of computer experience and always wanted to serve.
Thank you,
Joe
12/03/07 21:27:11
Gball wrote:
I'm 37 and considering joining the Army. I was in the National Guard in 1991 for only two years. I want to join for adventure and tra